hlfourie Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hi guys, my wife has been carrying on with me about this idea of going to Bangkok paying for a course that will teach her how to make whiskey, she will then do the course and receive a franchise to sell it, we are in Ubon Ratchathani so she wants to open shop here. There is no paper work to show me, she just got the number from a friend. Do you think this can be true / legit? They are looking for around 50000 baht but I still don't know for what. Does anybody have an idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hmm, sounds to good to be true. Don't hand over the money just yet. I have heard you can make your own beer, but not sell it and getting the license to produce for sale is hard or just not possible. As for opening a distillery I have zero knowledge, but doesn't it take years to make a decent drop? Even the cheap whiskys sit for around 12 years don't they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiberius Posted January 5, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2015 The same as the slimming products, air conditioners and rubber trees. It's all a con designed to get you to part with a big wedge. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachproperty Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Well ....if it were me and the wife was really pushing it.... I would go to Bangkok and check out the school where they will teach her to make Whiskey. Does the franchise include all permits and licenses And the equipment to make the whiskey (kettles, pots etc)??? (and check with applicable gov agency to make sure up to date and legit) If franchise does not include permits and licenses .... Then I would check with the government as to the rules and regulations on making alcohol. (permits licenses etc.) Lastly you would have to look into distribution ....again ...what permits, licenses etc needed Why not do some research on the internet on "how to distill and make whiskey" to see what's involved ....may be that she doesn't even need to go to school, save yourself 50,000 baht Good Luck Edited January 5, 2015 by beachproperty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 It is not necessarily a scam. There are many legit franchises that offer courses, however this one seems like a lot of hassle because there is alcohol involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The true setup cost to make enough whiskey to sell on even a small scale would probably be in the millions of baht. We looked at a franchise in Australia that is a beer micro brewery. Just the setup cost was over $400,000AU. So that's around 12million baht on a good day. Then you need to consider costs like rent of premises, finding competent tradesman like gas fitters, plumbers etc to build the place, paying yourself a wage for possibly a year, finding ingredient suppliers, bottle suppliers etc etc etc. The total cost of that micro brewery topped $500,000. Then that was only small scale. The list goes on and on even though it sounds simple, it's not unless you wanna make backyard moonshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 My mother in law makes beer and her brother makes whiskey. As a young woman my wife had many proposals. As far as I know there is a whiskey maker in every small village. But my knowledge of such things is not comprehensive. I do know you can buy flavorings that will duplicate every common whiskey currently on the market. From some Scandinavian country as I remember. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlfourie Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Thais refer to all kinds of alcohol as whiskey, so I don't think the course etc. Will be on making high end stuff like Jim beam. But mayby a homebrew for local whiskey or rice wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Thais refer to all kinds of alcohol as whiskey, so I don't think the course etc. Will be on making high end stuff like Jim beam. But mayby a homebrew for local whiskey or rice wine. As soon as distilling became a technological reality, east Asia joined the international bandwagon and began distilling basic fermented brews. In Thailand, lao khao, a potent rice whisky made from distilled sahtoh was the result. Today, cheap lao khao is not only sold at virtually every small store in Thailand, it is also hawked at bars frequented by the local working man: places where buildings are fashioned from bamboo, roofs from palm fronds and barstools from trunks of palm trees. Fortunately, for those of you wanting to sample lao khao, Mekhong, the most internationally recognized brand, is available everywhere – including fancy bars in five star hotels. It is usually drunk with coke or lots of soda. http://www.windowonphuket.com/features_regular/local_drop.htm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Getting a legal license to produce and sell alcohol in Thailand is virtually impossible. I saw the hoops that a local microbrewery bar tried to jump through to sell booze off site. How do u think Singha and Chang keep up the monopoly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Thais refer to all kinds of alcohol as whiskey, so I don't think the course etc. Will be on making high end stuff like Jim beam. But mayby a homebrew for local whiskey or rice wine. making high end stuff like Jim beam ROFL. JB, top shelf? Makers Mark yes, JB, still shaking head and laughing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Thais refer to all kinds of alcohol as whiskey, so I don't think the course etc. Will be on making high end stuff like Jim beam. But mayby a homebrew for local whiskey or rice wine. As soon as distilling became a technological reality, east Asia joined the international bandwagon and began distilling basic fermented brews. In Thailand, lao khao, a potent rice whisky made from distilled sahtoh was the result. Today, cheap lao khao is not only sold at virtually every small store in Thailand, it is also hawked at bars frequented by the local working man: places where buildings are fashioned from bamboo, roofs from palm fronds and barstools from trunks of palm trees. Fortunately, for those of you wanting to sample lao khao, Mekhong, the most internationally recognized brand, is available everywhere – including fancy bars in five star hotels. It is usually drunk with coke or lots of soda. http://www.windowonphuket.com/features_regular/local_drop.htm Those yaa dong stalls are getting harder and harder to find these days, especially in Bkk. I remember they used to sell the ingredients/herbal additives on service stations on the HW #2. Most of the gut rot you refer to sold in mom n pop stores is see sip, or seua dam, its sold at 10 baht a shot, or 25 baht for a M150 bottle full of it, very popular with M/C taxi drivers and labourers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Sounds like a moonshine course to me. If you're out in the sticks and they provide all the equipment and training to do it then maybe she could make some money. You have to remember that you're distilling what amounts to a high potency fuel right next to a naked flame, a process which isn't without danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATF Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Getting a license for a small whisky distillery is not a big problem, beer is. Plenty of vids on YT you can make whisky in a washing machine and get a really good still from Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crazy chef 1 Posted January 5, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2015 Thais refer to all kinds of alcohol as whiskey, so I don't think the course etc. Will be on making high end stuff like Jim beam. But mayby a homebrew for local whiskey or rice wine. making high end stuff like Jim beam ROFL. JB, top shelf? Makers Mark yes, JB, still shaking head and laughing. laphroig,talisker and lagavullin i would call whiskey and not the bourbon trash... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Thais refer to all kinds of alcohol as whiskey, so I don't think the course etc. Will be on making high end stuff like Jim beam. But mayby a homebrew for local whiskey or rice wine. making high end stuff like Jim beam ROFL. JB, top shelf? Makers Mark yes, JB, still shaking head and laughing. laphroig,talisker and lagavullin i would call whiskey and not the bourbon trash... Kind of like saying British cuisine. Oxymoron eh? If you want to play ethnocentric, two can play. Do you even know the difference between Bourbon and a single malt? When Jim Beam is done with their whiskey barrels instead of throwing them in the trash they sell them to Laphroig to make their little whiskey over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Give her the 50,000 Baht. She'll be back in a month with two bottles of whisky and some sticky labels. Happy days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATF Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 rgs2001uk, on 05 Jan 2015 - 15:23, said: hlfourie, on 05 Jan 2015 - 14:30, said:Thais refer to all kinds of alcohol as whiskey, so I don't think the course etc. Will be on making high end stuff like Jim beam. But mayby a homebrew for local whiskey or rice wine. making high end stuff like Jim beam ROFL. JB, top shelf? Makers Mark yes, JB, still shaking head and laughing. Well anything is a step up from Thunderbird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick1968 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 wake up to yourself if you like to kip the 50.000 ,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 My mother in law makes beer and her brother makes whiskey. As a young woman my wife had many proposals. That's a beauty!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 wake up to yourself if you like to kip the 50.000 ,,, He needs to do a lot more research first. It may be a legit business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick1968 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 wake up to yourself if you like to kip the 50.000 ,,, He needs to do a lot more research first. It may be a legit business. Good luck to him ,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Thais refer to all kinds of alcohol as whiskey, so I don't think the course etc. Will be on making high end stuff like Jim beam. But mayby a homebrew for local whiskey or rice wine. making high end stuff like Jim beam ROFL. JB, top shelf? Makers Mark yes, JB, still shaking head and laughing. laphroig,talisker and lagavullin i would call whiskey and not the bourbon trash... Kind of like saying British cuisine. Oxymoron eh? If you want to play ethnocentric, two can play. Do you even know the difference between Bourbon and a single malt? When Jim Beam is done with their whiskey barrels instead of throwing them in the trash they sell them to Laphroig to make their little whiskey over there. Of course Laphroaig buys their barrels, as they burn through a lot of wood to distill their Whisky, and JB probably has an abundance of barrels all the time anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 laphroig,talisker and lagavullin i would call whiskey and not the bourbon trash... Kind of like saying British cuisine. Oxymoron eh? If you want to play ethnocentric, two can play. Do you even know the difference between Bourbon and a single malt? When Jim Beam is done with their whiskey barrels instead of throwing them in the trash they sell them to Laphroig to make their little whiskey over there. Of course Laphroaig buys their barrels, as they burn through a lot of wood to distill their Whisky, and JB probably has an abundance of barrels all the time anyway. That's why Laphrong sells so well in America; it tastes like Jim Beam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) laphroig,talisker and lagavullin i would call whiskey and not the bourbon trash... Kind of like saying British cuisine. Oxymoron eh? If you want to play ethnocentric, two can play. Do you even know the difference between Bourbon and a single malt? When Jim Beam is done with their whiskey barrels instead of throwing them in the trash they sell them to Laphroig to make their little whiskey over there. Of course Laphroaig buys their barrels, as they burn through a lot of wood to distill their Whisky, and JB probably has an abundance of barrels all the time anyway. That's why Laphrong sells so well in America; it tastes like Jim Beam. Can't believe that a single malt Whisky with a peaty flavour tastes the same as spirit made from corn. Edited January 5, 2015 by Anthony5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiberius Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 It isn't a course to make whisky it is a course that teaches people to make the flavours that go into the whiskys and other spirits you see commonly sold in old lipo bottles out of large glass containers for 20 baht a pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazygreg44 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 You must be sick even considering this. The brother in law of my GF has 120 Rai Sugarcane fields, I once reckoned I could destill Cachazza open ended. When I learned what it needs to get an official license to produce potable alcoholic Whiskies, Rums or Sugar Cane Cachazzas, labelled. I gave up. It is nearly impossible to get a license for producing homemade brands of alcoholic specialties in Thailand, unless your Wife has a realtive within the family of the Governeur of the province What's it you want to ferment? There's rice, there's Sugarcane. There's pineapple, that will make a tasty Schnaps. Jim Beam ? Whiskies ? How the heck do you intend to call your destillate - if ever legal - a whisky ? Mekong is from sugarcane, as are all other Thai Whiskies. Don't bluff me with the rice-destillate. Utter BS. Maybe rice destillate is used for blending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I hope the children don't feel too disappointed, but it sounds like your ex wife's loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazygreg44 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 It isn't a course to make whisky it is a course that teaches people to make the flavours that go into the whiskys and other spirits you see commonly sold in old lipo bottles out of large glass containers for 20 baht a pop. yeah that's a called blending. herbs are involved. Sometimes "bird nest" for making better hair and skin. what you gotta watch out for is the fact that these "whiskies" or "Lao Khao" are in fact isopropanol 75% and up , aromatized with whatever masks the isopropyl alcohol scent. cool baby that taste is Whisky ( the only one to believe it is YOU) , it runs over across your tongue, hababablabish taste, dungalolololala afterglow . .. next thing you know is you end up blind. ...my five cent and a few satang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Two things comes to mind If it to good to be true and the other thing is there one born ever min_ _ _ lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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