marcusd Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Very nice. But please let people with class 5 drugs walk free when busted with small amount. Cannabis is not a drug!and what planet are you on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 one should consider that the only reason cannabis is illegal is because the US paid a huge amount of money to make it illegal. Cannabis used to be cooked and served in food and bought locally at the markets. The US put an end to that, they took the most medicinal plant on the planet and instantly turned an entire culture into criminals overnight. Let's get back to the real Thai culture when food was medicinal and not about getting stoned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 They should really amend the law that says giving a positive urine test counts as possession. It is incredibly flawed and rife for abuse as has been demonstrated recently with the outfit in Thonglor in BKK.Obviously if people are driving or operating machinery then a urine test and other sobriety tests should be done together. However merely locking people up for a few personal pills is out of order. So in a way this revision if it is in fact put into place is a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveG Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Very nice. But please let people with class 5 drugs walk free when busted with small amount. Cannabis is not a drug! You really believe that? Cannabis has been seen to relieve many health problems. Cannabis it much less harmful than other legal drugs such as tobacco and alcohol. I have never seen anybody go crazy whilst under the influence of Cannabis but have seen many when imbibing alcohol. I am a firm advocate for the legalisation of Cannabis which is finally happening in the USA and has long been legal in Holland. There was a Frank Zappa song referring to this - I have some time for Frank's opininions!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JungleBoy2 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Very nice. But please let people with class 5 drugs walk free when busted with small amount. Cannabis is not a drug! You really believe that? Maybe, you should try reading once in awhile-- then, comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbin Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I would change their habits. Mandatory death immediately by firing squad for all users, dealers and their families if the families have wealth all of a sudden. No body buying or using will dry the market quickly. I am sick of treating these useless vermin What you need to do is to take a deep breath....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Very nice. But please let people with class 5 drugs walk free when busted with small amount. Cannabis is not a drug! In your dreams. Who will make money if this would be the case? No one. It is not in the RTP's interest nor their patrons to change that law. Mark my words, cannabis will NEVER be legalized or decriminalized in this country. NEVER. They couldn't even bring themselves to legalize kratom. Ganja is basically decriminalized in this country. If busted it a very small fine like 500 baht unless you are an illiterate, gullible foreigner. The reason it won't be legalized is because the breweries have so much power and don't want people spending their money on harmless weed instead of their harmful poison. Edited January 5, 2015 by Neeranam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitemouse Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I hope someday they legalize pot, the sale of cake and cookies will shoot up. 5555555 I like Oreos late in the evening, maybe with some milk.. so soothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Thinking does exist after all. So far only talking exist.. lots of water will pass in the Chao Prahya river before anything, if at all, will gets promulgated... But, it was sensible talking, you have to admit that makes a change over the usual guff that is spouted daily out of the mouths of Thai ministries. If talking turns into any actual doing this time, it's way better than the average start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 If you killed all the user's and dealers it would wipe out a substantial part of the population' perhaps the majority. It would just leave a few demented losers with only themselves to hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Why is it that illegal drug addicts are looked down upon more so than legal drugs addicts, ie Alcoholics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Very nice. But please let people with class 5 drugs walk free when busted with small amount. Cannabis is not a drug! In your dreams. Who will make money if this would be the case? No one. It is not in the RTP's interest nor their patrons to change that law. Mark my words, cannabis will NEVER be legalized or decriminalized in this country. NEVER. They couldn't even bring themselves to legalize kratom. Ganja is basically decriminalized in this country. If busted it a very small fine like 500 baht unless you are an illiterate, gullible foreigner. You better should proof your comment before you bring people in danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDrSomkid Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Very nice. But please let people with class 5 drugs walk free when busted with small amount. Cannabis is not a drug! In your dreams. Who will make money if this would be the case? No one. It is not in the RTP's interest nor their patrons to change that law. Mark my words, cannabis will NEVER be legalized or decriminalized in this country. NEVER. They couldn't even bring themselves to legalize kratom. Never is a very long time. We thought the same when Reagan was Pres. Now look. Cannabis is a medicine. Gov't is making tax. $ talks. Never is a very very long time............. You willing to put a wager ? A big one ? AS you say NEVER....... Betting is illegal in this country, so no. You cannot compare the US and Thai drug laws. Public sentiment in the US has an influence on legislation. Here public sentiment is ridiculed and marginalized. Not only that, federal US law still prohibits the use (medical or recreational) of cannabis. Colorado and Washington STATE have legalized it. The mind set of Thai politicians is ultra conservative. They will not be willing to change this. Repression and maintaining power is paramount here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHaa Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Very nice. But please let people with class 5 drugs walk free when busted with small amount. Cannabis is not a drug! You really believe that? it is no less a social drug than alcohol, that is certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45slap Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Just pee test the thieves, ten-on-one tough guys, and the race car drivers. Stop the random piss tests at bars and road blocks. Free up the heat to stroll around (on foot) to deter crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernMan3 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Very nice. But please let people with class 5 drugs walk free when busted with small amount. Cannabis is not a drug! In your dreams. Who will make money if this would be the case? No one. It is not in the RTP's interest nor their patrons to change that law. Mark my words, cannabis will NEVER be legalized or decriminalized in this country. NEVER. They couldn't even bring themselves to legalize kratom. Never is a very long time. We thought the same when Reagan was Pres. Now look. Cannabis is a medicine. Gov't is making tax. $ talks. Never is a very very long time............. You willing to put a wager ? A big one ? AS you say NEVER....... Betting is illegal in this country, so no. You cannot compare the US and Thai drug laws. Public sentiment in the US has an influence on legislation. Here public sentiment is ridiculed and marginalized. Not only that, federal US law still prohibits the use (medical or recreational) of cannabis. Colorado and Washington STATE have legalized it. The mind set of Thai politicians is ultra conservative. They will not be willing to change this. Repression and maintaining power is paramount here. And money's not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLing Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) How comes I have that funny feeling,90% of posters on this tread are "drugies"of some kind? Edited January 6, 2015 by JoeLing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retell Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 How comes I have that funny feeling, 90% of posters on this tread are "drugies" of some kind? Lived in Holland , smoked ganja like a chimney for 20+years ,emigrated to Thailand never even had the urge for a spliff, abide the rules of the country one lives in 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyumiii Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 How comes I have that funny feeling, 90% of posters on this tread are "drugies" of some kind? Are you insinuating that they drink beer and coffee?? Oh, my goodness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyumiii Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Very nice. But please let people with class 5 drugs walk free when busted with small amount. Cannabis is not a drug! In your dreams. Who will make money if this would be the case? No one. It is not in the RTP's interest nor their patrons to change that law. Mark my words, cannabis will NEVER be legalized or decriminalized in this country. NEVER. They couldn't even bring themselves to legalize kratom. Never is a very long time. We thought the same when Reagan was Pres. Now look. Cannabis is a medicine. Gov't is making tax. $ talks. Never is a very very long time............. You willing to put a wager ? A big one ? AS you say NEVER....... Betting is illegal in this country, so no. You cannot compare the US and Thai drug laws. Public sentiment in the US has an influence on legislation. Here public sentiment is ridiculed and marginalized. Not only that, federal US law still prohibits the use (medical or recreational) of cannabis. Colorado and Washington STATE have legalized it. The mind set of Thai politicians is ultra conservative. They will not be willing to change this. Repression and maintaining power is paramount here. " Colorado and Washington State have legalized it" It seems you do not know about California, and 29 other states as well as the district of Columbia! Until recently the only resistance to legalization in these states was from the Federal DEA. Under Obama,the DEA was instructed to "look the other way " in these states. In the end of December 2014, Congress made it mandatory that the DEA can not enforce any laws against marijuana use in any state that has legalized it's use. Every "pot head " in the U.S. is aware of this. Why are these 'druggies" better informed than you? Maybe it's time to start keeping up on current events? Step away from your beer and pick up a news paper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Very nice. But please let people with class 5 drugs walk free when busted with small amount. Cannabis is not a drug! In your dreams. Who will make money if this would be the case? No one. It is not in the RTP's interest nor their patrons to change that law. Mark my words, cannabis will NEVER be legalized or decriminalized in this country. NEVER. They couldn't even bring themselves to legalize kratom. Ever been to a Thai jungle? kratom trees are growing wild there, are they illegal trees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLing Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Very nice. But please let people with class 5 drugs walk free when busted with small amount. Cannabis is not a drug! In your dreams. Who will make money if this would be the case? No one. It is not in the RTP's interest nor their patrons to change that law. Mark my words, cannabis will NEVER be legalized or decriminalized in this country. NEVER. They couldn't even bring themselves to legalize kratom. Ever been to a Thai jungle? kratom trees are growing wild there, are they illegal trees? They are! The RTP is negotiating their surrender but they are still in disagreement with the terms of their surrender. A speaker of the Office of Inactive Posts stated, those kratom trees have several addresses in the jungle and so the arrest warrant could not be delivered. The Inactive Post Minister concluded, it's impossible for those kratom trees to be Thai. They are most likely from one of the neighboring countries and keep disappearing over night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Tamson Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 In Thai society the big problem is yaba and ice (amphetamine & crystal meth). Both are bad shit once physical addiction sets in.. And it's taken mainly by locals , not foreigners. The RTP have their grimy paws in every stage of its supply chain and it really will take a miracle to resolve. Because it's illegal however, no one really knows what is actually being mixed with it before it hits the streets. This war is never going to won! Legalize it, control it, tax it, manufacture it to international safe standards. Educate people on safe use. Get the scum off the streets. Maybe we are slowly getting there. Both North & South America are perhaps (slowly) showing the way. Simple de criminalization, as in Holland and now, to a lessor extent, the UK, is not the answer, but again might be paving the way.. This subject is getting more and more talk the world over - can only be a good thing. imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I too believe in cannabis but I have definitely seen it drive people crazy both in the short term and long term and both temporarily and permanently. So what? Cars kill people but we don't make them illegal. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45slap Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Weed doesn't drive people crazy; not having weed does. The speed shit has destroyed Thailand. It would be wonderful if people here could see through kaleidoscope eyes. Er-hem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLing Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 In Thai society the big problem is yaba and ice (amphetamine & crystal meth). Both are bad shit once physical addiction sets in.. And it's taken mainly by locals , not foreigners. The RTP have their grimy paws in every stage of its supply chain and it really will take a miracle to resolve. Because it's illegal however, no one really knows what is actually being mixed with it before it hits the streets. This war is never going to won! Legalize it, control it, tax it, manufacture it to international safe standards. Educate people on safe use. Get the scum off the streets. Maybe we are slowly getting there. Both North & South America are perhaps (slowly) showing the way. Simple de criminalization, as in Holland and now, to a lessor extent, the UK, is not the answer, but again might be paving the way.. This subject is getting more and more talk the world over - can only be a good thing. imo Although I believe, as you said, educate, legalize, control and tax might be the right approach and might work for soft drugs, sadly it's not really working on hard drugs. Switzerland had for years an open drug policy which failed. http://tinyurl.com/globaldrugpolicy The financial gains or losses for the ecconomy by legalizing softdrugs wouldn't be a big concern but as the governments approach to kratom showed in the past, a big threat to revenues and power for the legislators. The producers, be it a poppy farmer in Thailand, the marijuana farmer in Morocco or the coca plant producer in the Andes have cultivated those natural remedies/drugs for ages without being a "drug problem". Most of the local people used those "drugs" for generations in their daily way of life, be it to better adapt to their environment, against hunger, for leisure or as medicine and so not realy the ones causing a "drug problem". Sure, mono cultures and overproduction for a world market is a problem but as long those remedies are controlled to some extend, it would not cause any problems or hardship to the majority of the producers. Now as the pictures on the cigarette packages or the weekly news about people being killed or injured through drink driving clearly shows, educating people doesn't seam to work either. Seams to me, decriminalization or liberalization is just as bad as prohibition. The only way to stop drugs being a problem would be to start at the top. There where misery profits those who have power but as corruption clearly shows, the top always protects the top. What's legal today, will be banned tomorrow. Not because of the harm it causes to the users and society at large but the gains or losses it causes the governments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The advantage of legalisation is that you don't ruin hundreds of thousands of people's lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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