Just bought some land in Hang Dong

[Kunjay]

What a process the Thais have when buying land, my story.

1) Look for property on DD Property, nothing but overpriced and less desirable properties.

2) Have the Mrs family contact local area/village chief who know what land is for sale in the area as Thai's prefer not to advertise their land as it might imply they have financial issues.

3) Contact real estate agents in from the area who show you various properties. With this situation the agent showed us a block of land in Hang Dong 3 nagn we liked at a price of 1.5mill baht. The neighbor was kind enough to give us the owners phone number behind the agents back.

We called the owner who said the price was 2 million from today, we said thanks but no thanks.

We then called the agent back and said we'll take it (at 1.5 mill) the agent said a deposit had just been put down, we add 1+1=2 to realise the initial agent lost face either at underpricing the land or for another reason as suddenly someone else puts a deposit on the land 2 hrs after we had viewed the land (yeh right)

We called the owner back and organised a meeting at the neighbors house beside the land (the guy who gave us the owners number).

Land owner a rich Chinese Thai who arrives in a late 80's C180 Merc. My wifes sister did the negotiations as she's high up in the government as I sat watching Thai style negotiation. First 30 min was nothing but idle banter (Thais dont like to get straight down to business like us Farang).

Owner would only go down to 1.7 mill, I made a last offer of 1,65 mill she said No. My wifes sisters husband and I walk off back to the car and start the engine as wife and sister remained with the owner, soon after my wife with a grin on her face waves us back to the neighbors house (starting the engine obviously made a difference.

Owner agreed to 1.6 mill not the 1.65 i offered, not sure how they managed that.

I spend the next few days organising money transfer hoping the owner doesn't change her mind or just goes and sells it to someone else.

The day comes to meet with the owner at the local amphur and complete the transfer, shes their with the neighbor who eagerly anticipated his 50,000baht finders fee (not sure how we found that out but we did).

Also at the Amphur was an elderly male who we believed was the owners husband as his photos were on all the documents. We were led to believe that the owners husband had divorced her therefor she was selling land that was in his name.

After the transaction was complete and the Shanot (land ownership papers) in our name I shook hands with the owner and told her to go and have fun with her 1.6 mill (she spoke english).

Driving home everyone tells me she wasnt even the owner that she and the old guy were just agents haha welcome to Thai business style.

More than happy with my purchase though, Hang Dong seems to be a growing area especially when the hwy is complete.

[Thailand]

Interesting story and I am sure you know you cannot own land unless you are Thai?

[cornishcarlos]

Interesting story and I am sure you know you cannot own land unless you are Thai?

Enjoy "your" land OP

Edited January 14, 2015 by Jai Dee
Abuse deleted

[AnotherOneAmerican]

"Chanote in our name", I think not, land in Thai wife name.

Did you enjoy signing the document at the land office stating no money of yours was used in the land purchase, and the land is the personal property of your wife, not a marital asset? (This document is only required if a Thai is legally married to a foreigner)

Just wondering,

How much commission did your wife and her sister get?

PS

Airport runs 24/7 from August, enjoy your aircraft noise all night.

Edited January 13, 2015 by AnotherOneAmerican

[bangmai]

I always lower my offer after they tell me they just got another offer, 2 hours before mine, after it has been on the market for 6 months. I think you could have got it for less. What were the fees like at the Amphur?

[sappersrest]

If Kunjay is happy with his purchase , don't knock him it's his money good luck to him.

Kunjay enjoy your land, interesting post and don't take too seriously all the posts from the know it all prats on this forum.

Good luck and best wishes to you and your family.

[evenstevens]

nicely done cobber

from the pic,your peice of dirt appears to have no need for a fill thats a bonus here

its a great feeling to own your plot with the missus,and build a house which suits both of yous

and it takes a ton guts to do the above , but remember

good luck follows the brave,

and by doing so

both of yous control your destiny of what u may decide, may all the luck in the world fall your way

[elektrified]

That was painful.

"...the Shanot (land ownership papers) in our name..." I think not. You have Zero interest in the property. If you believe otherwise, you've been had.

[cornishcarlos]

What is it with all the untrusting negative blah blah blah brigade ? Some families buy land to build a home on, this is family land that might be in the wife's name. That does not mean the farang husband has no interest in the land.

Lots people have been ripped off but equally many live a happy life on 'their' plot of land forever.

Nice looking block btw, enjoy...

[Kunjay]

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That was painful.

"...the Shanot (land ownership papers) in our name..." I think not. You have Zero interest in the property. If you believe otherwise, you've been had.

What do you mean its not in my name? I signed the papers!

haha of course i know its in the mrs name i really couldnt give a sh%t it will go to the kids when we kick the bucket, 1.6 M pffft

Fresh water running around the property, views of Doi Sutep, no mubans near, hydro farms all around and wildlife everywhere and not far from the Hwy but still far enough.

When i eventually build and move there I'll look forward to meeting and hanging with cool farang on my balcony as the sun goes down, I'll even invite old cranky world haters over for a beer!

[Anthony5]

The day comes to meet with the owner at the local amphur and complete the transfer,

Really, your local amphur must have other powers than the others in Thailand. Stop reading NOW and run to find and recover the money you just lost in a scam.

Edited January 13, 2015 by Anthony5

[WinnieTheKhwai]

Congrats!

[elektrified]

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That was painful.

"...the Shanot (land ownership papers) in our name..." I think not. You have Zero interest in the property. If you believe otherwise, you've been had.

What do you mean its not in my name? I signed the papers!

haha of course i know its in the mrs name i really couldnt give a sh%t it will go to the kids when we kick the bucket, 1.6 M pffft

Fresh water running around the property, views of Doi Sutep, no mubans near, hydro farms all around and wildlife everywhere and not far from the Hwy but still far enough.

When i eventually build and move there I'll look forward to meeting and hanging with cool farang on my balcony as the sun goes down, I'll even invite old cranky world haters over for a beer!

As long as you are happy that is all that is important. If you have kids then yes, no big deal. Seriously - enjoy yourself. Looks very nice in the photo. Cheers,

[Chiengmaijoe]

"Chanote in our name", I think not, land in Thai wife name.

Did you enjoy signing the document at the land office stating no money of yours was used in the land purchase, and the land is the personal property of your wife, not a marital asset? (This document is only required if a Thai is legally married to a foreigner)

Just wondering,

How much commission did your wife and her sister get?

PS

Airport runs 24/7 from August, enjoy your aircraft noise all night.

Could you be more miserable, negative and cynical? I could have predicted every word of this and added at least 3 or 4 names of regular posters here at the top of the post, you're so predictable.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

"Chanote in our name", I think not, land in Thai wife name.

Did you enjoy signing the document at the land office stating no money of yours was used in the land purchase, and the land is the personal property of your wife, not a marital asset? (This document is only required if a Thai is legally married to a foreigner)

Just wondering,

How much commission did your wife and her sister get?

PS

Airport runs 24/7 from August, enjoy your aircraft noise all night.

Could you be more miserable, negative and cynical? I could have predicted every word of this and added at least 3 or 4 names of regular posters here at the top of the post, you're so predictable.

If it was for the children, why not buy it in their name right from the start?

If the OP knows it's land given as a gift for his wife, why not say that in the OP?

Yep, those questions are also predictable.

I have absolutely no problem with a guy giving his wife 1.6M for a bit of land, but I just have a little problem with the guys that don't seem to quite know they have done that.

Even better, a post along the lines .......

"Hey I gave my misses, 1.6M today because I love her, no strings attached, guess what, she bought some land and gave me a lifetime right to live on it and use it"

Now a post like that I could really respect, respect both poster and wife, but you don't see that very often.

I wonder why?

PS

REALLY famous CM name (Brit), dumped this new year, taken for about 5M-10M, totally respectable and trustworthy misses, with her 8 years.

She already has a new guy moved in ......... you can't make this stuff up!

Edited January 13, 2015 by AnotherOneAmerican

[Anthony5]

"Chanote in our name", I think not, land in Thai wife name.

Did you enjoy signing the document at the land office stating no money of yours was used in the land purchase, and the land is the personal property of your wife, not a marital asset? (This document is only required if a Thai is legally married to a foreigner)

Just wondering,

How much commission did your wife and her sister get?

PS

Airport runs 24/7 from August, enjoy your aircraft noise all night.

Could you be more miserable, negative and cynical? I could have predicted every word of this and added at least 3 or 4 names of regular posters here at the top of the post, you're so predictable.

If it was for the children, why not buy it in their name right from the start?

If the OP knows it's land given as a gift for his wife, why not say that in the OP?

Yep, those questions are also predictable.

I have absolutely no problem with a guy giving his wife 1.6M for a bit of land, but I just have a little problem with the guys that don't seem to quite know they have done that.

Even better, a post along the lines .......

"Hey I gave my misses, 1.6M today because I love her, no strings attached, guess what, she bought some land and gave me a lifetime right to live on it and use it"

Now a post like that I could really respect, respect both poster and wife, but you don't see that very often.

I wonder why?

I actually wonder how the local Amphur was able to do a land transfer .

[Torrens54]

No, the Farang are not permitted to own land here.

In places like Australia, the Government (current and previous) is dumb enough to allow Thais and many, many others to buy land in their own names. Seems they think it might be regarded as RACIST if they prevent Foreigners from buying a plot of land to build a house.

Maybe Australia and other countries need to adopt the same attitude as the Thai Government, in these matters?

[bangmai]

"Chanote in our name", I think not, land in Thai wife name.

Did you enjoy signing the document at the land office stating no money of yours was used in the land purchase, and the land is the personal property of your wife, not a marital asset? (This document is only required if a Thai is legally married to a foreigner)

Just wondering,

How much commission did your wife and her sister get?

PS

Airport runs 24/7 from August, enjoy your aircraft noise all night.

Could you be more miserable, negative and cynical? I could have predicted every word of this and added at least 3 or 4 names of regular posters here at the top of the post, you're so predictable.

If it was for the children, why not buy it in their name right from the start?

If the OP knows it's land given as a gift for his wife, why not say that in the OP?

Yep, those questions are also predictable.

I have absolutely no problem with a guy giving his wife 1.6M for a bit of land, but I just have a little problem with the guys that don't seem to quite know they have done that.

Even better, a post along the lines .......

"Hey I gave my misses, 1.6M today because I love her, no strings attached, guess what, she bought some land and gave me a lifetime right to live on it and use it"

Now a post like that I could really respect, respect both poster and wife, but you don't see that very often.

I wonder why?

I actually wonder how the local Amphur was able to do a land transfer .

It's done every (week)day at every Amphur ('cept Holidays).....The Blue book stuff is at the Tesabon. Lots of people wearing suits, lots of bags of money, lots of well dressed lawyer chicks (at the Amphurs).

[hmficc]

There is risk in every relationship. I would guess that the grumpy members may know that from personal experience. Who ever gets off cheap from a marriage turned sour? Anywhere in the world?

[Anthony5]

I actually wonder how the local Amphur was able to do a land transfer .

It's done every (week)day at every Amphur ('cept Holidays).....The Blue book stuff is at the Tesabon. Lots of people wearing suits, lots of bags of money, lots of well dressed lawyer chicks (at the Amphurs).

Strange, because here in Pattaya it's done at the land department. Completely different office from the Amphur.

Isn't there a land department in Chiang mai?

[WinnieTheKhwai]

I actually wonder how the local Amphur was able to do a land transfer .

It's done every (week)day at every Amphur ('cept Holidays).....The Blue book stuff is at the Tesabon. Lots of people wearing suits, lots of bags of money, lots of well dressed lawyer chicks (at the Amphurs).

Strange, because here in Pattaya it's done at the land department. Completely different office from the Amphur.

Isn't there a land department in Chiang mai?

Land department at Hang Dong district, as per the original post.

It is right next to the Hang Dong district office.

Clearly this is a hugely important distinction to make on this forum, on which side of the parking lot he walked in to transfer a bit of land.

Pedantry on this forum truly has no limits. Well done.

And yet, it wasn't even the low point. That was a fellow forum member accusing his wife of being dishonest and fleecing him for extra money in 'commission'. It's one thing to note that this sometimes happens in certain kinds of relationships, but quite a step down to directly imply a fellow forum member's wife is that kind of person.

Just wondering,

How much commission did your wife and her sister get?

What a lovely place, this forum is.

Edited January 13, 2015 by WinnieTheKhwai

[Chiengmaijoe]

"Chanote in our name", I think not, land in Thai wife name.

Did you enjoy signing the document at the land office stating no money of yours was used in the land purchase, and the land is the personal property of your wife, not a marital asset? (This document is only required if a Thai is legally married to a foreigner)

Just wondering,

How much commission did your wife and her sister get?

PS

Airport runs 24/7 from August, enjoy your aircraft noise all night.

Could you be more miserable, negative and cynical? I could have predicted every word of this and added at least 3 or 4 names of regular posters here at the top of the post, you're so predictable.

If it was for the children, why not buy it in their name right from the start?

If the OP knows it's land given as a gift for his wife, why not say that in the OP?

Yep, those questions are also predictable.

I have absolutely no problem with a guy giving his wife 1.6M for a bit of land, but I just have a little problem with the guys that don't seem to quite know they have done that.

Even better, a post along the lines .......

"Hey I gave my misses, 1.6M today because I love her, no strings attached, guess what, she bought some land and gave me a lifetime right to live on it and use it"

Now a post like that I could really respect, respect both poster and wife, but you don't see that very often.

I wonder why?

PS

REALLY famous CM name (Brit), dumped this new year, taken for about 5M-10M, totally respectable and trustworthy misses, with her 8 years.

She already has a new guy moved in ......... you can't make this stuff up!

It's still a nasty , insulting post that you made. Making unfounded assumptions like that about his wife is disgraceful. If you were anywhere near half decent you'd offer an apology, but you probably won't. People like you don't admit your mistakes, mostly because you don't see it. What a sad, miserable toad you are.

[zeichen]

Enjoy your property. Nothing is more painful and difficult than owning and maintaing property. Good luck to the misery of the next 30 years of constant neighbor disputes. LOL

Are you building a house on it right away?

It is a nice feeling to have your own place for your family with a nice yard. Don't build a pool. Every foreigner from colder climates wants to build a pool. They are a constant chore to keep filtered, unless you swim every single day they just aren't worth it. Next time just have your father in law do the business by himself. Prices for dealing with mechanics and purchasing land, Male Thai best price, Thai female alone 20% more, Foreign male speaking in Thai for his family 30% more, Thai female speaking for a foreign male 40% more.

1.6 million for less than 1 rai seems expensive to me unless it is on the river or actually in the city central. About 10km outside of Hangdong there are plots of 1 rai for about 250k baht with chanote. I remember 3 years back there was a ton of land for sale for 10k baht a rai but it only had the SPK title.

People here like to piss on others pleasure, some is in good fun and others are just down right mean spirited.

[BillyBobThai]

Welcome to Hang Dong, forget about the airport, it is a non issue. For me a good place to live.

[hmficc]

There is risk in every relationship. I would guess that the grumpy members may know that from personal experience. Who ever gets off cheap from a marriage turned sour? Anywhere in the world?

[BB1955]

Had something close to this too , jad to deal with a lady in Bangkok , we found the owner through the land office , nice lady helped us there , then tried to get 3 % from the seller , didnt work she got nothing . Then the fun started fimding a good builder , we were very lucky to find a qualoty builder .....

[BB1955]

I actually wonder how the local Amphur was able to do a land transfer .

It's done every (week)day at every Amphur ('cept Holidays).....The Blue book stuff is at the Tesabon. Lots of people wearing suits, lots of bags of money, lots of well dressed lawyer chicks (at the Amphurs).

Strange, because here in Pattaya it's done at the land department. Completely different office from the Amphur.

Isn't there a land department in Chiang mai?

Land department at Hang Dong district, as per the original post.

It is right next to the Hang Dong district office.

Clearly this is a hugely important distinction to make on this forum, on which side of the parking lot he walked in to transfer a bit of land.

Pedantry on this forum truly has no limits. Well done.

And yet, it wasn't even the low point. That was a fellow forum member accusing his wife of being dishonest and fleecing him for extra money in 'commission'. It's one thing to note that this sometimes happens in certain kinds of relationships, but quite a step down to directly imply a fellow forum member's wife is that kind of person.

Just wondering,

How much commission did your wife and her sister get?

What a lovely place, this forum is.

I agree this comment was not needed . Not everyone has a wife waiting to fleece them ..

Edited January 13, 2015 by BB1955

[Dante99]

PS

REALLY famous CM name (Brit), dumped this new year, taken for about 5M-10M, totally respectable and trustworthy misses, with her 8 years.

She already has a new guy moved in ......... you can't make this stuff up!

Yeh, and that kind of thing never happens anywhere else, only in Thailand. Right arm, right arm.

[WinnieTheKhwai]

Welcome to Hang Dong, forget about the airport, it is a non issue. For me a good place to live.

Especially as a small slice of Hang Dong district gets airplanes flying in to land. Also noting that landing is less noisy than taking off, and guess in which direction planes take off into more and more as flight traffic increases...

Right: just about everywhere EXCEPT Hang Dong. But especially Nimmanhaemin and Jed Yod.

Edited January 13, 2015 by WinnieTheKhwai

[Kunjay]

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"Chanote in our name", I think not, land in Thai wife name.
Did you enjoy signing the document at the land office stating no money of yours was used in the land purchase, and the land is the personal property of your wife, not a marital asset? (This document is only required if a Thai is legally married to a foreigner)


Just wondering,
How much commission did your wife and her sister get?

PS
Airport runs 24/7 from August, enjoy your aircraft noise all night.

Could you be more miserable, negative and cynical? I could have predicted every word of this and added at least 3 or 4 names of regular posters here at the top of the post, you're so predictable.

If it was for the children, why not buy it in their name right from the start?
If the OP knows it's land given as a gift for his wife, why not say that in the OP?
Yep, those questions are also predictable.
I have absolutely no problem with a guy giving his wife 1.6M for a bit of land, but I just have a little problem with the guys that don't seem to quite know they have done that.

Even better, a post along the lines .......
"Hey I gave my misses, 1.6M today because I love her, no strings attached, guess what, she bought some land and gave me a lifetime right to live on it and use it"
Now a post like that I could really respect, respect both poster and wife, but you don't see that very often.
I wonder why?

PS
REALLY famous CM name (Brit), dumped this new year, taken for about 5M-10M, totally respectable and trustworthy misses, with her 8 years.
She already has a new guy moved in ......... you can't make this stuff up!

It's still a nasty , insulting post that you made. Making unfounded assumptions like that about his wife is disgraceful. If you were anywhere near half decent you'd offer an apology, but you probably won't. People like you don't admit your mistakes, mostly because you don't see it. What a sad, miserable toad you are.

I know it cracked me up laughing AnotherOneAmerican's post, I'll still have him over for a beer and some of my wifes fantastic cooking, maybe then he'll see that lovely well educated and dedicated Thai housewives to do marry foreigners.