Dental

[Dr. Cop]

Really need some help here, I have asked the question before and really didn't get any good answers, and I have searched the site with mixed answers. I will be staying at Sandy Spring's in November and need some major Dental work done, My uppers are dentures and my lowers I feel need to be pulled and replaced with a denture. I guessing that!!, I need to talk to and get advise from a good Dentist in Pattaya that will advise me accordenly. And, if they are out of the Bat Bus loop how would I get there, as I don't see many Taxis. Any Help would be appreciated...

[naka]

No shotage of Dental Clinics in Pattaya

Bangkok Pattaya Hospital

Pattaya International Hospital

And dozens of smaller clinics.

Do a Google search.

Naka.

[astral]

As you work is extensive, I suggest Bangkok Pattaya Hospital Dental clinic.

Not the cheapest, but very good.

[ryu]

Hi,

I would suggest Dr. Ramin. He's the only German Dentist in Pattaya.

He moves now in the 3rd Road (high of Carefour 3rd Road Exit). Best quality and good work.

Just simply write him an email: [email protected]

Forget Bangkok Pattaya H., except you want to pay more and remove more than necessary

[jdinasia]

As you work is extensive, I suggest Bangkok Pattaya Hospital Dental clinic.

Not the cheapest, but very good.

I concur ...

and to the OP ... any empty Baht Bus IS a taxi ... negotiate the price and go str8 to the door

[Pattaya_Fox]

Pattaya Dental Clinic has been going since 1978....so hopefully should have got it right by now.

They do dental implants and cosmetic surgery as well as the normal stuff.

They have 2 branches:

1. North Pattaya soi 3 across from Big C

tel 038-362-374

2. South Pattaya soi 16 across from Marine Plaza

tel 038-429-206.

[Mahseer]

Highly recommend Dr Aree at Pattaya International Hospital. She is very good and will most likely sing as she pulls them teeth.

[pattyboy]

Really need some help here, I have asked the question before and really didn't get any good answers, and I have searched the site with mixed answers. I will be staying at Sandy Spring's in November and need some major Dental work done, My uppers are dentures and my lowers I feel need to be pulled and replaced with a denture. I guessing that!!, I need to talk to and get advise from a good Dentist in Pattaya that will advise me accordenly. And, if they are out of the Bat Bus loop how would I get there, as I don't see many Taxis. Any Help would be appreciated...

I can recommend a very good dentist (at the bottom of this reply ) but you should take some time to read the following tales of Thai medical woe, first.

Bangkok Pattaya Hospital should be avoided -- especially their dental department. The prices at BPH are getting ridiculously high and the sevice is getting progressively worse. Let me tell you about my latest experience with a dentist there.

A very good dentist in Pattaya (see recommendation at the bottom) had started a root canal procedure (removed the roots and put a temporary filling in my tooth). I was supposed to go back a month later for the second step but for various reasons didn't get back in time. After a few months, the filling deteriorated to the point where I was experiencing a bit of pain. I was embarrassed to return to my regular dentist because I had left things go for so long, so I decided to go to Bangkok Pattaya to have it looked at. The woman at BPH (a real dentist, I guess) who did the work informed me that the root canals had to be cleaned again. To perform this, she used a ribbed needle to scrape the canals. She finished her work, put another temporary filling in the tooth, and sent me on my way. By the time I got to my car, the pain from that tooth was much worse than before, so I swallowed my pride and went to my regular dentist, explaining what I had done. He took an x-ray of the tooth and asked me if the dentist at Bangkok Pattaya had mentioned anything about the ribbed needle she was using breaking off in my tooth -- she hadn't said anything. He explained that this is what had happened and what was causing so much pain. He then showed me the x-ray, where I could see the metal pin stuck in the canal and protruding out the bottom into my gum. The dentist also explained that because this piece of metal was lodged in my tooth, completing the root canal would now be impossible, and the tooth had to be extracted. He did the extraction and showed me the tooth with the metal sticking out the bottom of it. I couldn't believe it! This female dentist at Bangkok Pattaya Hospital not only put me through unnecessary pain and suffering but cost me a tooth (and charged me).

This story exposes the real problems with getting medical work done in Thailand. Thais hate to "lose face", and if she admitted that she had screwed up, she would have lost face, so she elected to stay quiet, instead. I work in the field of education here (as many do) and knowing how the Thai education system works should also make people wary of using Thai doctors. Thai students in Thai universities are allowed to cheat on exams, plagiarize, and copy homework and assignment from other students. In other words, a Thai degree is nearly worthless -- the student being awarded his or her degree has not learned what they need to know.

Here's another quick tale of Thai medical incompetence. My ears occasionally need cleaning due to wax building up in them. I have had this procedure done in North America, where a large syringe filled with water is used. Here they scrape and use small sharp suction devices to do the job. That in itself is a dangerous way of cleaning ear cavities, but listen to this. One doctor prescribed a common product called "Waxsol" -- a wax softening solution. That seemed logical enough, and I wasn't surprised that he wanted me to put these drops in my ears before returning for the actual cleaning, but what did surprise me was that he prescribed 2 bottles of the stuff and said to use it every day for 2 weeks. (It seemed like a long time to use these drops.) Fortunately, Waxsol comes with an information leaflet, and when I opened it, the warning "DO NOT USE THIS PRODUCT FOR MORE THAN 3 CONSECUTIVE DAYS" was printed in very large letters at the top of the first page. This f***ing quack obviously didn't have a clue about the product he prescribed, and had I followed his instructions, I would probably have severe problems with my ears or be deaf today.

Take these stories and to heart and avoid Thai doctors as much as you can. The Thai medical system is clearly inferior and downright dangerous.

A very good dentist: Dr. Aphichai -- APC Dental -- 78/60 Pattaya Soi 5 (Soi 5 is off Second Road, near the north end -- basically across from Alcazar)

[taxexile]

The dentist also explained that because this piece of metal was lodged in my tooth, completing the root canal would now be impossible, and the tooth had to be extracted. He did the extraction and showed me the tooth with the metal sticking out the bottom of it.

actually , it is not always necessary to extract a tooth should a root canal reamer or file perforate the apex of the root.

there are commonly used tecniques for removing stuck and broken files.

files do occasionally snap off , sometimes due to poor operator tecnique and sometimes due to manufacturing imperfections. most often , its just one of those things.

when they protrude through the apex of the root , they meet bone , not gum.

depending on how long the broken piece is , they can sometimes be accessed and removed with rotating retrievers made especially for this.

sometimes , if the file cannot be removed , and the tooth is towards the front of the mouth , then the root tip itself can be accessed through a small incision in the gum and the sitution remedied.

with molars at the back of the mouth , this surgical procedure is not practical.

often a protruding file can be left in situ , they dont always cause pain or problems.

but as a matter of common courtesy , the dentist should inform the patient of such a mishap.

in the uk or the usa , it is the failure to pre- inform the patient of possible mishaps during treatment and / or failure to inform after the event , rather than the mishap itself , that is the reason for litigation and subsequent damages.

[eddy-ham]

Obviously she thought the pain would make him aware of the problem!!!!

[Morty]

Pattaya Dental Clinic has been going since 1978....so hopefully should have got it right by now.

They do dental implants and cosmetic surgery as well as the normal stuff.

They have 2 branches:

1. North Pattaya soi 3 across from Big C

tel 038-362-374

2. South Pattaya soi 16 across from Marine Plaza

tel 038-429-206.

second that

[Dr. Cop]

Pattyboy, Thanks for your comments, I will take your advice. Thank you for your opinion...

[nostrel]

it sounds like you need an implant or 2 , then ceramic molars are mounted on these titanium inserts.

expensive and takes a few months to complete the job but better than crowns on leftover bits of root which can lead to painfull abcesses on a regular basis.

[Dr. Cop]

it sounds like you need an implant or 2 , then ceramic molars are mounted on these titanium inserts.

expensive and takes a few months to complete the job but better than crowns on leftover bits of root which can lead to painfull abcesses on a regular basis.

Nostrel, No, Im 60, Have an upper Denture, and need some teeth pulled and a bottom denture made. Im not going to a big expense, If I had another 40 years to live, I might considet it. But Thanks for the info..

[taxexile]

60? far too young to be considering full dentures.

whilst upper dentures , and i assume you mean removable dentures) , are usually comfortable to wear , and dont move about whilst speaking , laughing or eating , its often a very different story with lower dentures , especially full dentures , where you have none of your natural teeth left.

if you have some of your lower teeth left , then consider having them restored with fillings or crowns and having a partial lower denture that uses the natural teeth as supports to aid retention.

once you have had your lower teeth removed , the bony ridge that the teeth stand in is slowly resorbed , this means that after 6 months the denture wont fit , will be loose and will need remaking . the second one will fit on the now resorbed bone ridge.

too many forces at work to dislodge a full lower denture (the tongue whilst speaking or eating , lips when smiling , floor of the mouth when swallowing etc.etc.etc ,

think it through carefully before going ahead.

[grahamcooke]

Really need some help here, I have asked the question before and really didn't get any good answers, and I have searched the site with mixed answers. I will be staying at Sandy Spring's in November and need some major Dental work done, My uppers are dentures and my lowers I feel need to be pulled and replaced with a denture. I guessing that!!, I need to talk to and get advise from a good Dentist in Pattaya that will advise me accordenly. And, if they are out of the Bat Bus loop how would I get there, as I don't see many Taxis. Any Help would be appreciated...

I have visited 2 dentists in LOS. The first was a dentist at the Bangkok Pattaya Hostpital where I had 4 fillings in 2 days. When the treatment started and I was in the couch the dental nurse put a towel over my head with a hole large enough to access my gob. The drill started and I raised my hand to stop the impending treatment and asked the dentist if she had forgotten something. She asked me for a clarification and I introduced the subject of anaesthetic. She said that she did not think it would be necessary.

Hmm...I let her get on with the treatment but I was in two minds as to whether to call it a day and walk out. In fairness I suppose it was the anticipation of pain/ discomfort which troubled me. There was some, but not much.

My other observation is that the dentist seemed content to fix the minor problems telling me to come back when I had more time. I did infact have another 8 days but this was not deemed enough to arrange for a crown to be fitted.

The second dentist I visited is in Soi 55 Sukhumvit 4 months later. The website is http://www.asavanant.com

In 5 visits I had 2 crowns and 2 inplants and the total bill was 84,000 Baht. This included root canal treatment on two teeth and I was satisfied with the work. Whilst there was some suggestion that the Bangkok Pattaya hostpital was cheaper - I have a mate living in Pattaya who was having similar treatment and we compared bills - similar treatment in the UK would cost twice as much.

My last trip to LOS in May was for just 2 weeks and so I arranged my consultation on Day 1 in BKK. You can set this up by email and get an estimate. On days 2 and 3 I was in the dentist chair for 4 hours on each day - without a break except to walk to the xray room. Whilst I was in Pattaya I booked a taxi to bring me back to the Dental Surgery in Soi 55 for my appointment on day 8. My last 2 days of my trip were spent in BKK anyway and on days 13 and 14 the dentist finished the treatment and fitted the crowns.

I will go back for more treatment on my next trip.