Why the Muslim 'no-go-zone' myth won't die

[Steely Dan]

I have not been to the West for 25 years, so not sure if No-Go zones are real, or not, but here is the conservative side of the argument.

No-go zones are Muslim-dominated neighborhoods that are largely off limits to non-Muslims due to a variety of factors, including the lawlessness and insecurity that pervades a great number of these areas. Host-country authorities have effectively lost control over many no-go zones and are often unable or unwilling to provide even basic public aid, such as police, fire fighting and ambulance services, out of fear of being attacked by Muslim youth.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5128/france-no-go-zones

That's not a "side of the argument", it's an invention.

There are council estates in England where non-religious yobs will sometimes target police and firemen, but they still go there.

There are areas of Paris where muslim youths will riot if the police cause the death of one of their own, which sadly has happened a few times, but that does not make them "no go" zones.

Maybe "No want to go" zones though......

Don't annoy him with facts - he'll link you to death.

"I've never been there, young man - but let me tell you like it is!!"

Am I allowed to swear on this forum? He's a <deleted> muppet.

Don't annoy me with facts? You mean like the one where I clearly never expressed an opinion on No-Go zones, which makes your "argument" downright foolish. In fact, my post on the subject is right at the top of the page.

I just told you my muslim ex-gf wants to hand me over to ISIS.

She's annoyed that I entered her no-go area.

It's her brothers you should be worried about, as should she.

Edited January 21, 2015 by Steely Dan

[Floater 7]

Some of us have read TV for years, but seldom post. Why? Because arguing with people we don't know, is not high on our list, of fun things to do online.

Some people who shouldn't, post constantly. So now number of post equals relevancy? I hope not.

[H1w4yR1da]

I just told you my muslim ex-gf wants to hand me over to ISIS.

She's annoyed that I entered her no-go area.

Did she like like football?

[Baerboxer]

This "no go zone" thing is just another example of how Muslim demonizers spread hatred and intolerance.

Really?

I thought hate and intolerance are spread via public beheadings on youtube.

You can't beat that!

Yes, it's a little known fact that white people are beheaded every day in Bradford.

I saw it on the Internet, it must be true. Let me find a link

Good look with finding that link!

However, Moslem youths did throw stones at vehicles being driven through mainly Moslem areas in Bradford; Sharia Law Area posters were put on lamp posts in Tower Hamlets, London; there have been instances of unprovoked attacks on non Moslems in many cities in the UK by Moslem gangs; and of course many instances of gangs of Moslem men operating sex trafficking, rape and pedophile rings against non Moslem girls in several UK cities.

Various UK police forces have been severely criticized for their inappropriate policing of Moslem areas which has failed in both crime prevention and arrests.

Of course, all these media stories and court reports could have been wildly exaggerated, made up, or really carried out be "others" all to discredit the well behaved highly integrated peaceful Moslem communities

[Baerboxer]

I just told you my muslim ex-gf wants to hand me over to ISIS.

She's annoyed that I entered her no-go area.

Did she like like football?

I once knew a half English half Pakistani girl. Her family were Moslem in a UK city called Derby. She was hot as hell, small, slim and sexy. I had a couple of great times with her till one day she "jokingly" mentioned what her dad, bothers, male cousins and in-laws reactions might be if they found out an "infidel" had been using her. So quaintly put and she thought really funny. End of some good fun. I did hear she'd been married of to some bloke they wanted to get into the UK from Pakistan. Strange values.

[NoshowJones]

How old are you......?

Old enough to have lived in London for 15 years, during which no part of it was in any way a 'no-go' area.

It is well known all over Britain about the No go areas over the last 40 or so years in London, and also Birmingham.

[muffy]

They have many areas in the USA where no smart white person will go .

[Chicog]

How old are you......?

Old enough to have lived in London for 15 years, during which no part of it was in any way a 'no-go' area.

It is well known all over Britain about the No go areas over the last 40 or so years in London, and also Birmingham.

Where did you get that from, the EDL web site?

[sawadeeken]

Just curious what would happen if somebody unloaded a few truckloads of pigs in the middle of these zones to run loose. I don't think they will have anything to do with any land where there have been pigs. I recall an article a couple years ago where some muslim bought a large parcel of land (seems maybe in Texas) and after starting construction they found that there was indeed a small 'pig farm' neighboring their land - and then caused a big uproar to make the pig farm owner remove his pigs. Does anybody else recall that story and know what happened?

[transam]

How old are you......?

Old enough to have lived in London for 15 years, during which no part of it was in any way a 'no-go' area.

It is well known all over Britain about the No go areas over the last 40 or so years in London, and also Birmingham.

Where did you get that from, the EDL web site?

Perhaps from experience eh.................

[Scott]

Continued discussion of post counts will result in a suspension. Members are welcome to post regardless of how long they have been a member or how many posts they have. Members are welcome to express their opinion. Unfortunately, some members think these threads are their private playground. It isn't.

[tartempion]

I got lost driving in Chicago around 19h, a police car stopped me and ordered me out, "U-turn here and now sir!"

I got lost South of Atlanta airport and got out myself.

I walked over a bridge in New York and what I saw made me run to the nearest subway station and get back to civilization.

There are areas in Brussels where I used to wander when I was young (from 1960 to 2000)

I had a walk around recently and I won't be seen there no longer, I did feet like in Marrakesh though.

Needless to say Marrakesh is not an inviting place.

I would call these places ghettos.

[JoeLing]

I got lost driving in Chicago around 19h, a police car stopped me and ordered me out, "U-turn here and now sir!"

I got lost South of Atlanta airport and got out myself.

I walked over a bridge in New York and what I saw made me run to the nearest subway station and get back to civilization.

There are areas in Brussels where I used to wander when I was young (from 1960 to 2000)

I had a walk around recently and I won't be seen there no longer, I did feet like in Marrakesh though.

Needless to say Marrakesh is not an inviting place.

I would call these places ghettos.

Hey, Marrakesh is actually a fairly nice city, well, the old town.

Your "ghetto" attractes more than 10 million tourists per year but

suppose one has to have been or lived there, to appreciate it ;-)

[transam]

I got lost driving in Chicago around 19h, a police car stopped me and ordered me out, "U-turn here and now sir!"

I got lost South of Atlanta airport and got out myself.

I walked over a bridge in New York and what I saw made me run to the nearest subway station and get back to civilization.

There are areas in Brussels where I used to wander when I was young (from 1960 to 2000)

I had a walk around recently and I won't be seen there no longer, I did feet like in Marrakesh though.

Needless to say Marrakesh is not an inviting place.

I would call these places ghettos.

Hey, Marrakesh is actually a fairly nice city, well, the old town.

Your "ghetto" attractes more than 10 million tourists per year but

suppose one has to have been or lived there, to appreciate it ;-)

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.

[JoeLing]

I got lost driving in Chicago around 19h, a police car stopped me and ordered me out, "U-turn here and now sir!"

I got lost South of Atlanta airport and got out myself.

I walked over a bridge in New York and what I saw made me run to the nearest subway station and get back to civilization.

There are areas in Brussels where I used to wander when I was young (from 1960 to 2000)

I had a walk around recently and I won't be seen there no longer, I did feet like in Marrakesh though.

Needless to say Marrakesh is not an inviting place.

I would call these places ghettos.

Hey, Marrakesh is actually a fairly nice city, well, the old town.

Your "ghetto" attractes more than 10 million tourists per year but

suppose one has to have been or lived there, to appreciate it ;-)

[Scott]

I saw this on Yahoo. It seems the Mayor of Paris is going to sue Fox News for its report of Muslim 'no-go areas'.

http://news.yahoo.com/paris-mayor-sue-fox-news-muslim-no-go-zones-190558769.html

[Billy Bloggs]

I saw one of these areas dominated by immigrants just recently. It was filled with businesses catering to the immigrants, with signage in their own language. There were immigrants everywhere, dressing and acting as they chose without any regard for local custom. They spoke their own language and expected locals in the area to do the same. Many of them seem to look down on the locals, and most made no effort to integrate with local culture in any way.

Sukhumvit, I think it was called.

Did they make you follow any of their laws, were you made to dress differently, were you denied from eating any food you liked and on and on

[Steely Dan]

Sometimes you are late for work so you just have to push through the crowds to get to your destination.

http://www.ironicsurrealism.com/2014/09/27/the-in-your-face-muslims-prayer-blocking-the-street-pic-of-the-day/

Edited January 21, 2015 by Steely Dan

[H1w4yR1da]

Sometimes you are late for work so you just have to push through the crowds to get to your destination.

http://www.ironicsurrealism.com/2014/09/27/the-in-your-face-muslims-prayer-blocking-the-street-pic-of-the-day/

That's France?

God help them!

[arjunadawn]

I have not been to the West for 25 years, so not sure if No-Go zones are real, or not, but here is the conservative side of the argument.

No-go zones are Muslim-dominated neighborhoods that are largely off limits to non-Muslims due to a variety of factors, including the lawlessness and insecurity that pervades a great number of these areas. Host-country authorities have effectively lost control over many no-go zones and are often unable or unwilling to provide even basic public aid, such as police, fire fighting and ambulance services, out of fear of being attacked by Muslim youth.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5128/france-no-go-zones

If you haven't been to the west for twenty-five years then don't comment.

And don't believe everything your read on the Internet.

The assertion that because someone concedes their travel history he forfeits the right to make a valid observation. Were the requirements that one actually be a participant in related affairs of a particular thread, in order to comment, there would be no comments, or few.

In essence, your post is 'you should not comment' and the cautious wisdom "don't believe everything you read on the internet."

Regardless of his perspective, he has contributed a great deal more to the consideration of this topic than your protest. Gosh, 50% of your post was marginalizing his post by addressing him personally.

Edited January 21, 2015 by arjunadawn

[arjunadawn]

I saw this on Yahoo. It seems the Mayor of Paris is going to sue Fox News for its report of Muslim 'no-go areas'.

http://news.yahoo.com/paris-mayor-sue-fox-news-muslim-no-go-zones-190558769.html

I doubt the mayor has a leg to stand on. It is not an urban myth; it is widely reported as "no go" areas by a wide range of government and other media for a pretty long time. This link seems to have a pretty good grasp on how this idea of "no go" areas has evolved.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5128/france-no-go-zones

[chingmai331]

Chinese not good at assimilating either. Many 'china towns' in USA, other places. Chinese restaurants, signs, hanging ducks, dry rice noodles, etc. but no chinese i have ever heard of tries to enforce his way of thinking onto others via violence. Whatever the muslims rant on about their peaceful religion, what i read and see suggests a high degree of muslim intolerance in many places.

Many islamic governments, Indonesia, Malaysia, Paki, etc are totally intolerant of their muslim citizens entertaining independent thought regarding religion. How frightened those govts are!

[SoiBiker]

How old are you......?

Old enough to have lived in London for 15 years, during which no part of it was in any way a 'no-go' area.

It is well known all over Britain about the No go areas over the last 40 or so years in London, and also Birmingham.

Seriously?

Go on then. List the ones in London. This should be a laugh.

[billd766]

Why threads like this appear is ridiculous. Everybody but everybody knows there is a problem,and it will get worse. Is the thinking and written quotes from some posters somehow diguising the fact,sweeping it under the carpet going to solve anything? just making it worse and until the politicians get focussed and deal with it the better.

Only one reason the muslims are in the UK and France and rest of the EU is welfare,an easy way out. Cut welfare for child benefit would be a starter,they are famed for ultra large families

You don't speak for 'everybody'.

Neither do you.

[billd766]

If it weren't for Muslim business people, the British economy would have collapsed.

And if it weren't for Muslim NHS workers, the NHS would collapse.

You'll find it's the indigenous Brits that are the lazy one's, not Muslims.

Do you have any facts, figures or links to back up what you have said?

[loppylugs1]

Why threads like this appear is ridiculous. Everybody but everybody knows there is a problem,and it will get worse. Is the thinking and written quotes from some posters somehow diguising the fact,sweeping it under the carpet going to solve anything? just making it worse and until the politicians get focussed and deal with it the better.

Only one reason the muslims are in the UK and France and rest of the EU is welfare,an easy way out. Cut welfare for child benefit would be a starter,they are famed for ultra large families

You don't speak for 'everybody'.

Neither do you.

Did I claim to?

For sure there are bodies that are in the ignorant,,blind or ignore it and it will go away league. Cannot be helped,just ignore it

[Mosha]

If it weren't for Muslim business people, the British economy would have collapsed.

And if it weren't for Muslim NHS workers, the NHS would collapse.

You'll find it's the indigenous Brits that are the lazy one's, not Muslims.

Do you have any facts, figures or links to back up what you have said?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wikileaks-files/london-wikileaks/8304838/UK-MUSLIM-DEMOGRAPHICS-C-RE8-02527.html

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171776_310454.pdf Page 14 17% of economically active muslims were unemployed or students. The largest figure of any other group.

[NoshowJones]

How old are you......?

Old enough to have lived in London for 15 years, during which no part of it was in any way a 'no-go' area.

It is well known all over Britain about the No go areas over the last 40 or so years in London, and also Birmingham.

Seriously?

Go on then. List the ones in London. This should be a laugh.

It has been all over the papers and has been documented on television often enough, I will name one, what about Brixton? Now this is off topic, and I do not wish to continue this debate. One of the Mods has asked us to stay on topic, and that's the way it should be.

[SoiBiker]

It is well known all over Britain about the No go areas over the last 40 or so years in London, and also Birmingham.

Seriously?

Go on then. List the ones in London. This should be a laugh.

It has been all over the papers and has been documented on television often enough, I will name one, what about Brixton? Now this is off topic, and I do not wish to continue this debate. One of the Mods has asked us to stay on topic, and that's the way it should be.

As I've already pointed out, I went to Brixton regularly when I lived in London, and knew several people who lived there.

Hardly a no-go area, is it?