Tottenham Thread

[nellyp]

It's lucky Wenger always kept faith with him because a rather large percentage of fans didn't!

Yes, they're the boo boys who now claim they always thought he was brilliant and Wenger is a genius (Chief Spokesman: Piers "Total wanke_r" Morgan).

If Ramsey hadn't been injured he would be a better player now, he had at least 2 seasons taken off his development. I am still staggered at the goals he is scoring.

[smokie36]

I don't think it's a matter of what player should be playing in what position

and in what formation anymore.

When you look at the bigger picture we haven't managed to score a goal in

open play in the last 4 league games, that's 360 minutes of football.

That's the biggest worry that AVB is faced with especially when at one point

or another he's tried and played all the players in the squad and nothing seems

to be working out!

If the team can't score goals or create at least 3 or 4 clear cut chances in a match

then the buck stops with the coach and his staff.

Yeah our defence had a bad day but the first half hour we should have created better and scored....you can't have possession of 65% like we did at the half hour mark and nothing to show for it.

What the answer is in the short term I don't know but we need something soon or this season is going to turn out badly I fear.

[carmine]

Totally unacceptable performance. Sandro aside, no passion, didn't turn up.

We have a young side and a young manager and we must learn from that debacle. Very disappointing reading on Spurs forums, with plastic armchair fans wanting AVB sacked and the likes of Laudrup, De Boer appointed. All this and were still five weeks from christmas. Whilst i freely admit i can't see where were really going at the moment i think its ridiculous to talk of sacking him.

Couple of points about the selection. I initially forgot that Paulinho had played twice for Brazil and with him being a near ever present for us he looked totally knackered and out of sorts.

He decides to give Lamela a chance and proceeds to play the lad out of position. Play him right wing or in the center of the front three. Why the hell did AVB stick Holtby central and Lamela left? Makes no sense.

Can someone please tell me why Assou Ekotto is out on loan when we have no specialist left back as cover for Rose, thus weakening our center back pairing which should be Kaboul/Vertonghen.

Next weekend will be interesting, and we need a result to ease the pressure.......no doubt all the ABT's will be hoping United win and all you ABAVB's hope Villas-Boas gets sacked but you could all be wrong on both accounts.

Good to see you are standing by your man mate....and then you go on to slate his decision making,strange!

Ofcourse you stand by your manager. But are you saying you cannot question any of his decisions?

[alfieconn]

Seems jamie talks as much shit as his old man :

COMPARE and contrast: Jamie Redknapp on Spurs’s new recruits:

JAMIE Redknapp in the Daily Mail: “Who chose the targets for the Bale money to be spent on? Roberto Soldado is another Jermain Defoe, Etienne Capoue is another Sandro, and do you need Lamela when you have Andros Townsend? Was it Andre Villas-Boas or was it director of football Franco Baldini?” - November 25, 2013

Maybe Jamie should read his own paper:

Declan Warrington: “Manager Andre Villas-Boas views the clinical Spain international as the candidate to end his long-term search for a truly quality goalscorer… Villas-Boas and chairman Daniel Levy are determined to show their ambition by securing the signings that would help them to dismiss interest in Gareth Bale and to finally break into the league’s top four” – July 22, 2013

Here’s what else Redknapp said about Spurs’ striker: On August 15 he opined: “I’m going for Soldado as their key man. He’s 28 years of age and not a typical Daniel Levy signing…”

Redknapp spoke in glorious tones about Daniel Levy, the Spurs Chairman: “He has got (Roberto) Soldado in early, he’s buying Etienne Capoue, who is a very good player.”

Now, of course, Capoue is just another Sandro.

Funny how big defeat to Manchester City can change your expert opinion…

Edited November 26, 2013 by alfieconn

[carmine]

It's lucky Wenger always kept faith with him because a rather large percentage of fans didn't!

Yes, they're the boo boys who now claim they always thought he was brilliant and Wenger is a genius (Chief Spokesman: Piers "Total wanke_r" Morgan).

If Ramsey hadn't been injured he would be a better player now, he had at least 2 seasons taken off his development. I am still staggered at the goals he is scoring.

Please refrain from polluting this thread with comments concerning the woolwich exiles. Thanks

[carmine]

Anyone seen Alfie lately?

Is he in talks with Joe Lewis & Dan Levy sorting out the fine details of a contract to replace AVB in the morning?

Not AVB's fault!! They're in a transitional period remember. It takes a while to turn 100m worth of talent into a cohesive unit

what was it levy said? "we've sold elvis but signed the beatles"? club officials are very good at making come-back-to-kick-you-up-the-arse comments like that.

Don't think Levy made those comments. Maybe it was Garth Crooks. Certainly sounds like the stupid type of comment he'd make.

Mindyou there is an argument to say we sold snow white and bought seven dwarfs!

[Chicog]

^ Nice one carmine!

[StevieH]

Don't think Levy made those comments. Maybe it was Garth Crooks. Certainly sounds like the stupid type of comment he'd make.

Mindyou there is an argument to say we sold snow white and bought seven dwarfs!

ah, my apologies to daniel levy then. nobody deserves bracketing with that know-nothing over-earnest pillock garth crooks.

[MrRed]

Totally unacceptable performance. Sandro aside, no passion, didn't turn up.

We have a young side and a young manager and we must learn from that debacle. Very disappointing reading on Spurs forums, with plastic armchair fans wanting AVB sacked and the likes of Laudrup, De Boer appointed. All this and were still five weeks from christmas. Whilst i freely admit i can't see where were really going at the moment i think its ridiculous to talk of sacking him.

Couple of points about the selection. I initially forgot that Paulinho had played twice for Brazil and with him being a near ever present for us he looked totally knackered and out of sorts.

He decides to give Lamela a chance and proceeds to play the lad out of position. Play him right wing or in the center of the front three. Why the hell did AVB stick Holtby central and Lamela left? Makes no sense.

Can someone please tell me why Assou Ekotto is out on loan when we have no specialist left back as cover for Rose, thus weakening our center back pairing which should be Kaboul/Vertonghen.

Next weekend will be interesting, and we need a result to ease the pressure.......no doubt all the ABT's will be hoping United win and all you ABAVB's hope Villas-Boas gets sacked but you could all be wrong on both accounts.

Good to see you are standing by your man mate....and then you go on to slate his decision making,strange!

Ofcourse you stand by your manager. But are you saying you cannot question any of his decisions?

No mate i suppose it is just that right now he is beginning to come under a lot of pressure from the Spurs supporters and soon enough it will be the men above who feel that pressure more-so,just asking the question of you?

You seem to be questioning a hell of a lot of his decisions just lately! when does that questioning turn to a vote of no confidence? I mean how long are you prepared to put up with this fanny?

Edited November 26, 2013 by MrRed

[Chicog]

If the tiny totts succumb to the Moaners next weekend, the booing you lot so criticised The Arsenal for will be ringing very loudly in your ears.

[carmine]

Totally unacceptable performance. Sandro aside, no passion, didn't turn up.

We have a young side and a young manager and we must learn from that debacle. Very disappointing reading on Spurs forums, with plastic armchair fans wanting AVB sacked and the likes of Laudrup, De Boer appointed. All this and were still five weeks from christmas. Whilst i freely admit i can't see where were really going at the moment i think its ridiculous to talk of sacking him.

Couple of points about the selection. I initially forgot that Paulinho had played twice for Brazil and with him being a near ever present for us he looked totally knackered and out of sorts.

He decides to give Lamela a chance and proceeds to play the lad out of position. Play him right wing or in the center of the front three. Why the hell did AVB stick Holtby central and Lamela left? Makes no sense.

Can someone please tell me why Assou Ekotto is out on loan when we have no specialist left back as cover for Rose, thus weakening our center back pairing which should be Kaboul/Vertonghen.

Next weekend will be interesting, and we need a result to ease the pressure.......no doubt all the ABT's will be hoping United win and all you ABAVB's hope Villas-Boas gets sacked but you could all be wrong on both accounts.

Good to see you are standing by your man mate....and then you go on to slate his decision making,strange!

Ofcourse you stand by your manager. But are you saying you cannot question any of his decisions?

No mate i suppose it is just that right now he is beginning to come under a lot of pressure from the Spurs supporters and soon enough it will be the men above who feel that pressure more-so,just asking the question of you?

You seem to be questioning a hell of a lot of his decisions just lately! when does that questioning turn to a vote of no confidence? I mean how long are you prepared to put up with this fanny?

The whining boo boys can <deleted> off and support another club for all i care. If we win on sunday they'll have forgotten about the City game no doubt.

Yes i am questioning some of his decisions because we all have are opinions. Doesn't necessarily make me right or him wrong but my point is you always back the manager vocally at games because its your club and he's working in the best interests of your club.

I believe we are too slow in our build up. I feel certain players are not best suited to the position they are being played in and am very confused about the handling of Lamela/Adebayor and the loaning of Assou Ekotto. I am also concerned at his team selections but again, it could be he knows more than me

I believe they are reasonable points to question but believe me, some of the clueless vitriol being directed towards our manager from people who clearly have bugger all football knowledge is infuriating. And they have the gall to call themselves Spurs fans.

My concerns for sunday are that the fickle fans of the west stand will be booing at the half time whistle if were not on top and all thats going to do is help United. All i'm looking for is a committed performance playing with a higher tempo and i think we'll get that response from the players.

[MrRed]

I think that you would agree it is a big game for both clubs at the weekend and Moyes looks like he is saving Vidic Carrick and RVP for this game such is the importance of a good result at the lane.

It also must be said that in the City game Spurs were playing good football for the first thirty minutes after the initial shock of losing the early goal and what ever people say City were not as good as the scoreline suggests more that they actually were clinical in the chances they created and took.

Spurs i think could not believe it and the players heads dropped especially your defence which up til this game has been quite decent.

The reason you lost the game for me is bad team selection from AVB up against Toure(who probably had his worse game for city in some time)you needed a powerhouse like Dembele not Holtby.........although as you say Townsend statistically has not produced much he still scares sides and runs at defences with his pace and should of been picked instead of Lamela or Lennon both who don't seem to have any confidence due to not being picked to often by AVB. Also Sigurdsson should of played instead Paulinho.Then you look at Soldado who really is not at the races so why not give Defoe a start or even Adebayor!!

Real City followers know that this victory was more a case of you performing badly due to poor team selection than them playing extremely well.

A lot wrong with his team selection and as an outsider i can see it as well as a lot of your fans.

It will be very interesting what team he selects at the weekend won't it or is he just going to shame them into playing well after letting him down so badly against City although i think he let the team down by bad selections.

What team do you think he will play?

[alfieconn]

I think that you would agree it is a big game for both clubs at the weekend and Moyes looks like he is saving Vidic Carrick and RVP for this game such is the importance of a good result at the lane.

It also must be said that in the City game Spurs were playing good football for the first thirty minutes after the initial shock of losing the early goal and what ever people say City were not as good as the scoreline suggests more that they actually were clinical in the chances they created and took.

Spurs i think could not believe it and the players heads dropped especially your defence which up til this game has been quite decent.

The reason you lost the game for me is bad team selection from AVB up against Toure(who probably had his worse game for city in some time)you needed a powerhouse like Dembele not Holtby.........although as you say Townsend statistically has not produced much he still scares sides and runs at defences with his pace and should of been picked instead of Lamela or Lennon both who don't seem to have any confidence due to not being picked to often by AVB. Also Sigurdsson should of played instead Paulinho.Then you look at Soldado who really is not at the races so why not give Defoe a start or even Adebayor!!

Real City followers know that this victory was more a case of you performing badly due to poor team selection than them playing extremely well.

A lot wrong with his team selection and as an outsider i can see it as well as a lot of your fans.

It will be very interesting what team he selects at the weekend won't it or is he just going to shame them into playing well after letting him down so badly against City although i think he let the team down by bad selections.

What team do you think he will play?

Strange ! i put this out as his expected team, which wasn't a lot different from the team he played

Lloris

Walker Dawson Kaboul Vert

Beast Paulinho

Townsend Holtby / Dembele Sig

Soldado

No mention that there was a lot wrong with this team before the game, still it is easy to be wise after the event !

Sig should have played instead of Paulinho !!!! what are you on, Sig is an attacking midfielder who is there to score goals from midfield, Paulinho is a box to box player who can also play def mid, in fact part of the problem that Paulinho was pushing too far forward thus we were exposed at the back.

Defoe , should have started !!!!! what !!! did you see him against West ham ? have you seen his stats recently ?

Red, you come on here like some sort of spurs expert and you really ain't got a clue, best you stick to Man u's tactics.

Edited November 26, 2013 by alfieconn

[carmine]

Really like the reports linking us with Alvaro Morata again. Shame its almost certainly groundless rubbish!!

[carmine]

I think that you would agree it is a big game for both clubs at the weekend and Moyes looks like he is saving Vidic Carrick and RVP for this game such is the importance of a good result at the lane.

It also must be said that in the City game Spurs were playing good football for the first thirty minutes after the initial shock of losing the early goal and what ever people say City were not as good as the scoreline suggests more that they actually were clinical in the chances they created and took.

Spurs i think could not believe it and the players heads dropped especially your defence which up til this game has been quite decent.

The reason you lost the game for me is bad team selection from AVB up against Toure(who probably had his worse game for city in some time)you needed a powerhouse like Dembele not Holtby.........although as you say Townsend statistically has not produced much he still scares sides and runs at defences with his pace and should of been picked instead of Lamela or Lennon both who don't seem to have any confidence due to not being picked to often by AVB. Also Sigurdsson should of played instead Paulinho.Then you look at Soldado who really is not at the races so why not give Defoe a start or even Adebayor!!

Real City followers know that this victory was more a case of you performing badly due to poor team selection than them playing extremely well.

A lot wrong with his team selection and as an outsider i can see it as well as a lot of your fans.

It will be very interesting what team he selects at the weekend won't it or is he just going to shame them into playing well after letting him down so badly against City although i think he let the team down by bad selections.

What team do you think he will play?

Strange ! i put this out as his expected team, which wasn't a lot different from the team he played

Lloris

Walker Dawson Kaboul Vert

Beast Paulinho

Townsend Holtby / Dembele Sig

Soldado

No mention that there was a lot wrong with this team before the game, still it is easy to be wise after the event !

Sig should have played instead of Paulinho !!!! what are you on, Sig is an attacking midfielder who is there to score goals from midfield, Paulinho is a box to box player who can also play def mid, in fact part of the problem that Paulinho was pushing too far forward thus we were exposed at the back.

Defoe , should have started !!!!! what !!! did you see him against West ham ? have you seen his stats recently ?

Red, you come on here like some sort of spurs expert and you really ain't got a clue, best you stick to Man u's tactics.

Yes, those dreaded words "Defoe should start" really make a nonsense of any post.

Incidentally, did anyone see his perfectly executed air kick in our europa game last month i think it was. Fooled everyone that did, even the ref

Very difficult to know how the weekend selection will go. Theres no consistency. He might pair Sandro and Paulinho and throw one in by putting Dembele in the center of the front three with Townsend and Sig/Lamela either side. Soldado or Adebayor up top is an interesting one too.

It would be a huge bonus for us to have Rose back allowing to partner Kaboul and Vertonghen. Why don't they just chop his bloody toe off and be done with it!!

[MrRed]

I think that you would agree it is a big game for both clubs at the weekend and Moyes looks like he is saving Vidic Carrick and RVP for this game such is the importance of a good result at the lane.

It also must be said that in the City game Spurs were playing good football for the first thirty minutes after the initial shock of losing the early goal and what ever people say City were not as good as the scoreline suggests more that they actually were clinical in the chances they created and took.

Spurs i think could not believe it and the players heads dropped especially your defence which up til this game has been quite decent.

The reason you lost the game for me is bad team selection from AVB up against Toure(who probably had his worse game for city in some time)you needed a powerhouse like Dembele not Holtby.........although as you say Townsend statistically has not produced much he still scares sides and runs at defences with his pace and should of been picked instead of Lamela or Lennon both who don't seem to have any confidence due to not being picked to often by AVB. Also Sigurdsson should of played instead Paulinho.Then you look at Soldado who really is not at the races so why not give Defoe a start or even Adebayor!!

Real City followers know that this victory was more a case of you performing badly due to poor team selection than them playing extremely well.

A lot wrong with his team selection and as an outsider i can see it as well as a lot of your fans.

It will be very interesting what team he selects at the weekend won't it or is he just going to shame them into playing well after letting him down so badly against City although i think he let the team down by bad selections.

What team do you think he will play?

Strange ! i put this out as his expected team, which wasn't a lot different from the team he played

No mention that there was a lot wrong with this team before the game, still it is easy to be wise after the event !

Sig should have played instead of Paulinho !!!! what are you on, Sig is an attacking midfielder who is there to score goals from midfield, Paulinho is a box to box player who can also play def mid, in fact part of the problem that Paulinho was pushing too far forward thus we were exposed at the back.

Dembele would have been the defensive midfielder and Sigg would of been the attacking one dimwit.

Defoe , should have started !!!!! what !!! did you see him against West ham ? have you seen his stats recently ?

Red, you come on here like some sort of spurs expert and you really ain't got a clue, best you stick to Man u's tactics.

Well if Dembele was picked to do Paulinho's job and Sigurdsson to do Holtby's then we you might of played better also my question was to Carmine....not you......... as it is patently obvious you are a upset and still delirious in in another hammering.

Quite interesting how you have made my point for me and you don't even realize it!

Have you see Soldado's stats recently???

My team would of been 4-14-1

the back 4

Sandro

Townsend Sigurdsson Dembele Lennon/Lamela

DeFoe

[Chicog]

I wonder if "Slow" Lloris is doing a bit of a Hart? Or is he just crapping himself because he knows he's got Dawson in front of him?

Edited November 26, 2013 by Chicog

[MrRed]

Your fuc_king clueless the pair of you here are the stats.....Soldado and Defoe.

http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Tottenham_Hotspur_Players_Statistics_2013-14.html

[carmine]

I wonder if "Slow" Lloris is doing a bit of a Hart? Or is he just crapping himself because he knows he's got Dawson in front of him?

If we had not loaned out a specialist left back cover then Kaboul and Vertonghen would be central. Dawson had an utter nightmare at City because he can't turn and he can't play to AVB's preferred high line, the culmination of all this puts more pressure on Lloris. Whilst Lloris didn't have one of his better games he's been excellent for us and in my opinion is the best in the league.

[carmine]

Your fuc_king clueless the pair of you here are the stats.....Soldado and Defoe.

http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Tottenham_Hotspur_Players_Statistics_2013-14.html

Clueless about what exactly?

I'm rather enjoying your growing Spurs obsession. Even extending the the odd bit of brown nosing on the goon thread!! I believe you post more on our thread these days than your own. Life at OT with Moyes really is that uninspiring isn't it.

[MrRed]

To be fair angling is easy with you two as you quote stats and then when they are shown to you both ...you ignore them.

Or are you saying that Defoe's nine goals this season in much less game time should not count because he scored them goals in competitions that not worthwhile being taken seriously?

Answers on a postcard please.

[MrRed]

I wonder if "Slow" Lloris is doing a bit of a Hart? Or is he just crapping himself because he knows he's got Dawson in front of him?

If we had not loaned out a specialist left back cover then Kaboul and Vertonghen would be central. Dawson had an utter nightmare at City because he can't turn and he can't play to AVB's preferred high line, the culmination of all this puts more pressure on Lloris. Whilst Lloris didn't have one of his better games he's been excellent for us and in my opinion is the best in the league.

I think your defence is the least of your worries i mean unless you are forgetting the previous eleven games.

[alfieconn]

I think that you would agree it is a big game for both clubs at the weekend and Moyes looks like he is saving Vidic Carrick and RVP for this game such is the importance of a good result at the lane.

It also must be said that in the City game Spurs were playing good football for the first thirty minutes after the initial shock of losing the early goal and what ever people say City were not as good as the scoreline suggests more that they actually were clinical in the chances they created and took.

Spurs i think could not believe it and the players heads dropped especially your defence which up til this game has been quite decent.

The reason you lost the game for me is bad team selection from AVB up against Toure(who probably had his worse game for city in some time)you needed a powerhouse like Dembele not Holtby.........although as you say Townsend statistically has not produced much he still scares sides and runs at defences with his pace and should of been picked instead of Lamela or Lennon both who don't seem to have any confidence due to not being picked to often by AVB. Also Sigurdsson should of played instead Paulinho.Then you look at Soldado who really is not at the races so why not give Defoe a start or even Adebayor!!

Real City followers know that this victory was more a case of you performing badly due to poor team selection than them playing extremely well.

A lot wrong with his team selection and as an outsider i can see it as well as a lot of your fans.

It will be very interesting what team he selects at the weekend won't it or is he just going to shame them into playing well after letting him down so badly against City although i think he let the team down by bad selections.

What team do you think he will play?

Strange ! i put this out as his expected team, which wasn't a lot different from the team he played

No mention that there was a lot wrong with this team before the game, still it is easy to be wise after the event !

Sig should have played instead of Paulinho !!!! what are you on, Sig is an attacking midfielder who is there to score goals from midfield, Paulinho is a box to box player who can also play def mid, in fact part of the problem that Paulinho was pushing too far forward thus we were exposed at the back.

Dembele would have been the defensive midfielder and Sigg would of been the attacking one dimwit.

Defoe , should have started !!!!! what !!! did you see him against West ham ? have you seen his stats recently ?

Red, you come on here like some sort of spurs expert and you really ain't got a clue, best you stick to Man u's tactics.

Well if Dembele was picked to do Paulinho's job and Sigurdsson to do Holtby's then we you might of played better also my question was to Carmine....not you......... as it is patently obvious you are a upset and still delirious in in another hammering.

Quite interesting how you have made my point for me and you don't even realize it!

Have you see Soldado's stats recently???

My team would of been 4-14-1

the back 4

Sandro

Townsend Sigurdsson Dembele Lennon/Lamela

DeFoe

.

Why would you play Sig after last weeks performance ? the stats on Defoe were in the league !

Why are you so wise after the game ? why didn't you mention the team was wrong before the game ?

Mr Hindsight is your new name by the way !!!!!!

[carmine]

To be fair angling is easy with you two as you quote stats and then when they are shown to you both ...you ignore them.

Or are you saying that Defoe's nine goals this season in much less game time should not count because he scored them goals in competitions that not worthwhile being taken seriously?

Answers on a postcard please.

No MrEd you muppet were saying he scores in the sub standard group stage against europa pubb teams and can't do it consistently at top level. And he adds nothing else either by way of assists, tackles or tracking back.

We've always said that but carry on MrEd i have a feeling you are going to provide much needed humor for us on here after sundays game.

Got to love the incredibly football knowledgeable Man United fans!! Pray continue numb nuts

[alfieconn]

Well if Dembele was picked to do Paulinho's job and Sigurdsson to do Holtby's then we you might of played better also my question was to Carmine....not you......... as it is patently obvious you are a upset and still delirious in in another hammering.

Quite interesting how you have made my point for me and you don't even realize it!

Have you see Soldado's stats recently???

My team would of been 4-14-1

the back 4

Sandro

Townsend Sigurdsson Dembele Lennon/Lamela

DeFoe

Well make up your mind, one minute you say

The reason you lost the game for me is bad team selection from AVB up against Toure(who probably had his worse game for city in some time)you needed a powerhouse like Dembele not Holtby

and then you say

Dembele would have been the defensive midfielder and Sigg would of been the attacking one dimwit

So now Sig ( hardly a powerhouse) is going to be the attacking mid instead of Holtby and not Dembele

[Chicog]

I wonder if "Slow" Lloris is doing a bit of a Hart? Or is he just crapping himself because he knows he's got Dawson in front of him?

If we had not loaned out a specialist left back cover then Kaboul and Vertonghen would be central. Dawson had an utter nightmare at City because he can't turn and he can't play to AVB's preferred high line, the culmination of all this puts more pressure on Lloris. Whilst Lloris didn't have one of his better games he's been excellent for us and in my opinion is the best in the league.

Well Vertonghen didn't look much like a defender for the ... oops I've lost count.

[carmine]

Well if Dembele was picked to do Paulinho's job and Sigurdsson to do Holtby's then we you might of played better also my question was to Carmine....not you......... as it is patently obvious you are a upset and still delirious in in another hammering.

Quite interesting how you have made my point for me and you don't even realize it!

Have you see Soldado's stats recently???

My team would of been 4-14-1

the back 4

Sandro

Townsend Sigurdsson Dembele Lennon/Lamela

DeFoe

Well make up your mind, one minute you say

The reason you lost the game for me is bad team selection from AVB up against Toure(who probably had his worse game for city in some time)you needed a powerhouse like Dembele not Holtby

and then you say

Dembele would have been the defensive midfielder and Sigg would of been the attacking one dimwit

So now Sig ( hardly a powerhouse) is going to be the attacking mid instead of Holtby and not Dembele

All this comes from them sitting back and watching RedNose sort it all out for the last 26 years. So many United fans you talk to or listen to really are incredibly lacking any any real knowledge and understanding of the game.

[alfieconn]

seems strange that spurs are as well off in the league as they are given how few goals they've scored. only two points off fourth but goal difference of minus three.

Perhaps it wouldn't seem so strange if you look at the clean sheets column

[alfieconn]

Carms, i have to laugh at these so called experts coming on here and having a pop, telling us we're playing shit football, can't score a goal, all our new players are average, we need to get rid of AVB etc etc and the ironic thing is we're sitting 2 points behind 4th place, i can't stop laughing

[MrRed]

Carms, i have to laugh at these so called experts coming on here and having a pop, telling us we're playing shit football, can't score a goal, all our new players are average, we need to get rid of AVB etc etc and the ironic thing is we're sitting 2 points behind 4th place, i can't stop laughing

Well i am expert enough to know that Soldado has scored 1 goal and 3 penalties in the premier league yet you continually rate him above Defoe who has been a 20 a season regular for your club for years talk about fickle fans eh Carmine

And Alfie some of your lot who i must say have been absent said taht you would win the league and qualify for the champions league this season top four an all that

And you go on the scouse thread giving it large when at the moment they are way ahead of you.

Only two weeks ago you was larging it up over on the United thread a little bit of banter back your way and you get all defensive and insulting. Let's face it Avb is <deleted> and you are in denial