Why do women give men a bad rap? They are equated with being liars, and sometimes cheats, and heart breakers. I mean, not to say that they aren’t, they for the most part, can be all of that and a whole lot more.

But… why blame them, when women are the biggest enablers of all?

Women enable men. Period. Their upbringing allows them to grow up to be jerks after all ”boys will be boys”, and by being the second woman, or mistress, they are allowed to cheat on some (sometimes unsuspecting) fool.

Now not to say there are not some real wonderful men out there, but I’m talking about the ones that make the news.

I think it is human nature to try to pass blame when things go wrong & no more obvious between men & women. Plenty of guys slag off women too for what they see as her fault but most normal people will know deep down that one person isn't always to blame. Why else would men & women continue to meet new people when past relationships go wrong?

I am of the belief that you are only treated how you allow yourself to be treated, so you may meet a guy who treats you badly once but only you can allow that to happen a 2nd time. Not a popular view but one that has guided me in my adult life.

Boo is right, it takes two to make a relationship and two to break one. It is much easier being the wronged party and laying the blame elsewhere then it is to take responsibility for ones own actions.

That said, I do see alot of mothers teaching their sons "little prince" behavior while making their daughters help with the housework. Never understood why mothers would help perpetuate the behavior they dislike in their husbands with their sons.

I think it is human nature to try to pass blame when things go wrong & no more obvious between men & women. Plenty of guys slag off women too for what they see as her fault but most normal people will know deep down that one person isn't always to blame. Why else would men & women continue to meet new people when past relationships go wrong?

I am of the belief that you are only treated how you allow yourself to be treated, so you may meet a guy who treats you badly once but only you can allow that to happen a 2nd time. Not a popular view but one that has guided me in my adult life.

Cheers to that Boo!

There is a constant theme in the gay people in Thailand sub-forum that disses Thai gay men often. It's hard to fight that kind of pervasive thought pattern but some of us try. It has been pointed out by more than on poster that if "stuff" happens to you over and over again ... That there may be many common denominators (like where you meet people etc) but the LCD is "you" ie: in every relationship I have been in ... the only thing that was truly the same was ME!

How hard is itto treat the people that come into your life with respect and REQUIRE that in return.If someone doesn't return it ... say goodbye and move on.

Blame can come from either side - it depends on the individual and what sort of person they really are.

Apologies to Boo and the OP in advance.

Shouldn't this be a 'bad rep' ...... a 'bad rap' is Vanilla Ice

Sorry

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LOL, we don't see hide nor hair of you for months & then this...... terrible

LOL, we don't see hide nor hair of you for months & then this...... terrible

Hey... I got booted for two weeks for calling a pompous prick a pompous prick.... where else am I going to go..... men, gotta love 'em.... (except maybe the pompous pricks )

Edit.... could anyone else in here get the words 'pompous prick' in a single sentence three times

Edited August 20, 200619 yr by Thaddeus

Boo is right, it takes two to make a relationship and two to break one. It is much easier being the wronged party and laying the blame elsewhere then it is to take responsibility for ones own actions.

That said, I do see alot of mothers teaching their sons "little prince" behavior while making their daughters help with the housework. Never understood why mothers would help perpetuate the behavior they dislike in their husbands with their sons.

My mother must have had the same thoughts as you. She had me washing dishes, cooking, washing and ironing clothes, vacuming, and dusting along with my "guy" chores of mowing the lawn, emptying the trash and helping my step father work on the trucks and cars. When I reached the regal age of 15, I reminded my mother that I had two young sisters, and "shouldn't they be learning this stuff?". She politely told me that she was teaching me these things because she didn't want me to leave home, find a girl and get married, just to have someone to take care of me. She said that she wanted me to marry because I found love. She definitely made it a point to tell every woman that I became involved with that I could keep house and cook, and for them not to cut me any slack. I'm actually grateful for that... I really enjoyed having to prove to a lady that I was dating, that "yes, I cleaned my own home!" and " yes, this dinner that I said I cooked, isn't take out, dumped on plates". I'll never forget my ex-wife... she came home from work one evening and I had made a meatloaf, mashed potatoes and sweet corn. She complimented me on the aroma, then asked what I had in the oven. I told her and she said.... "ohhh". she didn't like meatloaf, but she agreed to try it anyway. She took one bite, chewed it and ran from the table... I followed her like the concerned husband I was.... I found her in the kitchen with the phone in her hand, she was telling her mother to get over to our house and find out what meatloaf was "supposed" to taste like.

I also agree that both men and women are guilty when it comes to bad behavior. For every "wicked" man, there is a "wicked" woman and vice-versa; that was a co-conspirator. Although, I'm equally sure that there are a number of men and women that pretend to be angels yet go out trying to bed every available person they can find. Sometimes we're willing fools and will listen to every lie and one liner, and pretend it's true. Then when we have a cold dose of reality thown in our face, we have the audacity to be surprised and outraged. Sometimes we refuse to believe that someone that's too good to be true, is in fact "TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE!"

The way I see it.. women are to be blamed for EVERYTHING.

After all, they are our sister´s, our mother´s our wives.

They create us, and they destroy us.

Gotta hate to love ´em.

The way I see it.. women are to be blamed for EVERYTHING.

After all, they are our sister´s, our mother´s our wives.

They create us, and they destroy us.

Gotta hate to love ´em.

Errrrr ..... Boo.... care to help me out in casting out this unbeliever

Sorry Kayo.... but I think that the OP's original post was about enabling women ( it's ok in this society for a man to have several female friends but it isn't ok for a woman to do the same thing)

Is that right, in my opinion no it isn't, men have had their way for far too long.... in fact I'm thinking of becoming a lesbian, but the necessary surgery is far too scary.

I pressed the hash key thad, but nothing mystically appeared.

Boo can re-educate me any time she likes.

I pressed the hash key thad, but nothing mystically appeared.

Boo can re-educate me any time she likes.

Wrong hash key bro......... way wrong...... never mind, better luck next time

If only men were more like me. We would have a great rep

Apologies to Boo and the OP in advance.

Shouldn't this be a 'bad rep' ...... a 'bad rap' is Vanilla Ice

Sorry

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No, 'bad rap' is correct. Maybe it's a difference between American slang and the improper versions of English spoken in those other countries that's confusing you.

rap

n.

Slang. A negative quality or characteristic associated with a person or an object

Apologies to Boo and the OP in advance.

Shouldn't this be a 'bad rep' ...... a 'bad rap' is Vanilla Ice

Sorry

sorry

sorry

sorry

really realy realy sorry

No, 'bad rap' is correct. Maybe it's a difference between American slang and the improper versions of English spoken in those other countries that's confusing you.

rap

n.

Slang. A negative quality or characteristic associated with a person or an object

Of course, I forgot about that. America and England, two countries separated by a common language

I think there is something beyond the individual response to gender that creates a language of conflict.

For example: I wrote to the BBC a while back regarding their coverage of an issue 'School Bullying', in the cases they discussed during their half hour long radio program they included both boy and girl bullying - But here's the rub - Bullying by boys was discussed as a phenomena of male agression while girls who bullied where described (and this by child development experts and educationalists) as 'exhibbiting male pattern behaviour'.

While my letter to the BBC was polite, it basically read as 'What the fock you are you talking about?... Behaviour by females, is female behaviour, violent females are displaying violent female behavior, discribing it as male pattern behaviour is off loading violent female behaviour on men'.

My letter was discussed on the BBC and there where numerous replies in support.

This is one example of society loading the discussion.

Others can be found in discussion of 'caring', 'child custody', 'domestic violence', 'health care' etc

Possitive behaviour is expressed as a female trait negative behaviour is expressed as a male trait - and men suffer harm by this.

Example:

In the discussion on giving men a more fair share and access to medicine and the health service (long topic of its own) I might say for example 'Men receive no possitive encouragement to make use of the health service (UK), there are no men's health clinics' - I say I might say this, I often do, it is one of my pet subjects.

The two responses I almost always receive are 'Men do not take as much interest in their health' -and variations of -'Men bring this on themselves by being too scared to discuss their health' (an implied virtue of women over men) - I would add these are attitudes in the health service.

But they forgett. Women where afraid to have breast scans and smear tests - It was a concerted education program that brought them into the health service to address these issues.

50 years after the efforts to bring women into the health service, the negative view of men is still used as an argument not to give men the benefit of the same health education.

This can be found in almost any area of community life, health, education, home and increasingly work.

It needs challenging.

Edited August 21, 200619 yr by GuestHouse