Thaksin 'ready' for talk, but not Prayut

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Thaksin 'ready' for talk, but not Prayut
THE NATION

Ex-PM keen to speak to someone with power

BANGKOK: -- PRIME MINISTER Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday rejected a call for him to have talks with former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra as part of the efforts to achieve national reconciliation.

Thaksin, however, has said he is ready for such talks, a Pheu Thai Party source said yesterday. The ex-PM's only condition was that he wanted to talk to someone with the power to make decisions, so that any agreement reached can be put into practice, the source said. "Thaksin has been fooled many times already. Such talks often failed in the past, so he wants people with actual power to talk with him," the source said.

Thaksin wants the country to be peaceful and to move forward, the source said.

Prayut said that as a state official, he was not permitted by law to meet with someone wanted by the authorities for legal prosecution. And he would be unable to send anyone else to meet Thaksin on his behalf, as that also was against the law.

"I can't talk with anyone wanted by law. It's because I am a state official," he said. He was referring to the offence of dereliction of duty."Don't forget that Khun Thaksin has legal problems. Do you think I can talk to him?"

Prayut was responding to questions from a reporter in response to a suggestion by National Reform Council (NRC) member Wanchai Sornsiri for him to meet the ex-PM as part of the efforts to achieve reconciliation.

Thaksin has been in self-exile overseas since fleeing the country in 2008, just before the Supreme Court sentenced him in absentia to two years in jail for abuse of power.

Prayut said all people who have fled the country who want national reconciliation should return to Thailand and re-enter the justice process. For him, Thaksin could take part in the reconciliation process by returning and contesting the cases against him.

He said he had reiterated many times that nobody should stay above the law and laws should be applied fairly to everyone.

Prayut said it would be difficult for him to explain to Thais throughout the country why an amnesty should be given to certain political figures who broke the law.

The PM is also leader of the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), the junta that took power after the coup last May.

Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said yesterday that it was not the PM's duty to have talks with Thaksin.

"The prime minister's duty is to make sure the law is enforced," he said.

Prawit, who is also defence minister, said the National Reform Council had the duty to encourage reconciliation and should do whatever it sees fit to achieve that goal.

"The NRC may hold talks if that's necessary; we are ready to help. I think Khun Thaksin is also ready.

"General Prayut has repeatedly asked him to come back. The NRC should do whatever is necessary to achieve reconciliation," he said.

Prawit said he had never had talks with Thaksin while overseas.

Anek Laothamatas, a member of the Constitution Drafting Committee, voiced support to the idea of talks between Prayut and Thaksin. But he said there should also be talks between the PM and other parties. Anek has pushed for a pardon or amnesty for people in political conflicts who broke the law as part of the reconciliation process.

Meanwhile, NRC member Kamnoon Sidhisamarn, who is spokesman for the Constitution Drafting Committee, said he thought the chance of Prayut talking to Thaksin was very slim.

Thaksin, however, has said he is ready for such talks, a Pheu Thai Party source said yesterday. The ex-PM's only condition was that he wanted to talk to someone with the power to make decisions, so that any agreement reached can be put into practice, the source said.

"Thaksin has been fooled many times already. Such talks often failed in the past, so he wants people with actual power to talk with him," the source said.

Thaksin wants the country to be peaceful and to move forward, the source quoted him as saying.

Anek Laothamatas, a member of the Constitution Drafting Committee, voiced support to the idea of talks between Prayut and Thaksin. But he said there should also be talks between the PM and other parties. Anek has pushed for a pardon or amnesty for people in political conflicts who broke the law as part of the reconciliation process.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Thaksin-ready-for-talk-but-not-Prayut-30254242.html


-- The Nation 2015-02-17

[thesetat2013]

Here lies the question! If it's illegal for Prayuth to talk with Thaksin then why isn't YL being prosecuted for this right now and why was it permissible before.

Also, by Thaksin's own acknowledgement to Prayuths call to talk with someone with power he is admitting that he still controls the Reds and the UDD and is able to end the conflict.

This is the man the country needs to be rid of. Without him the volatile Red will be without support or leadership.

[tbthailand]

"I can't talk with anyone wanted by law. It's because I am a state official," he said. He was referring to the offence of dereliction of duty."Don't forget that Khun Thaksin has legal problems. Do you think I can talk to him?"

which article was that again? Maybe article 44?

Sure, General, it's legal for you to talk to him.

[uppo]

"Thaksin has been fooled many times already"

And vice versa, Thailand has been fooled by Thaksin even many more times already.

[WitawatWatawit]

"The ex-PM's only condition was that he wanted to talk to someone with the power to make decisions, so that any agreement reached can be put into practice, the source said. "Thaksin has been fooled many times already. Such talks often failed in the past, so he wants people with actual power to talk with him," the source said.

This poor delusional creature still believes he is relevant. Megalomania really is a fault without limits. Thaksin, me old mate, sit beside me and I'll try to break the news to you gently. Ssshhh, deep breaths, let the muscles relax. OK? Thaksin, you're not allowed back in the sandbox. Sorry, but the other kids don't like your selfish tantrums.

[zaphod reborn]

Unless it involves an agreement to surrender to authorities, there is no point in talking to Thaksin.

[noitom]

Thaksin is tan, rested and ready.

[siampolee]

Thaksin whether he and his supporters like it or not is yesterdays man.

Don't worry no doubt another Shinwatra will come along to try to fill the family coffers from Thailand's public purse as we have already seen with his sister, who he sold down the river without a qualm.This country does not need another Thaksin wanna be new political dynasty family type administration.

The current administration seems to be administering its own brand of medicine which to date although a trifle unpleasing to some of the bodies political parts is in reality starting to show some small improvement in the patients health.

The sooner the Thaksin virus is isolated and destroyed the better for the country and its peoples.

One does not encourage nor need to nor should fraternise with the country's enemies in order to improve the country's health politically,economically as well as socially.

Now cast your minds back.

Did Thaksin employ the tactics he is now using when he and his assorted clones were in power?

No of course not,

So why should the current administration bow down to the capricious whims of Thaksin and co?

[NeverSure]

"Prayut said that as a state official, he was not permitted by law to meet with someone wanted by the authorities for legal prosecution. And he would be unable to send anyone else to meet Thaksin on his behalf, as that also was against the law."

Er, Uh, Mr. General. Coups are against the law. In civilized countries they are treason. There is room in that sandbox for two people.

[uppo]

"Prayut said that as a state official, he was not permitted by law to meet with someone wanted by the authorities for legal prosecution. And he would be unable to send anyone else to meet Thaksin on his behalf, as that also was against the law."

Er, Uh, Mr. General. Coups are against the law. In civilized countries they are treason. There is room in that sandbox for two people.

Is there no one else suitable to join the sandbox BESIDES Thaksin?

Do the red shirts not have anyone more suitable to hold reconciliation talks other than that misfit megalomaniac?

Is there not a single individual from their group that isn't already facing multiple criminal charges and/or is already convicted (like Thaksin)?

[NeverSure]

"Prayut said that as a state official, he was not permitted by law to meet with someone wanted by the authorities for legal prosecution. And he would be unable to send anyone else to meet Thaksin on his behalf, as that also was against the law."

Er, Uh, Mr. General. Coups are against the law. In civilized countries they are treason. There is room in that sandbox for two people.

Is there no one else suitable to join the sandbox BESIDES Thaksin?

Do the red shirts not have anyone more suitable to hold reconciliation talks other than that misfit megalomaniac?

Is there not a single individual from their group that isn't already facing multiple criminal charges and/or is already convicted (like Thaksin)?

I dunno. Some people are the PM and commit crimes. Some people commit crimes to become PM.

[steven100]

hasn't this guy died yet ... ? geeezzzzzz ......

forget him .... and move on !!!!

[Ricardo]

Thaksin is tan, rested and ready.

So are all the other elderly sexpats, except that he's in Dubai, whereas they're in Pattaya !

He did once achieve a few things, but that was 10-15 years ago, he's now a has-been just like the rest of us, my advice to him would be to relax & enjoy life with the comforts his billions can buy, rather than petulantly trying to regain his glory-days in his old-age.

Edited February 17, 2015 by Ricardo

[TheDiva]

"The ex-PM's only condition was that he wanted to talk to someone with the power to make decisions, so that any agreement reached can be put into practice, the source said. "Thaksin has been fooled many times already. Such talks often failed in the past, so he wants people with actual power to talk with him," the source said.

This poor delusional creature still believes he is relevant. Megalomania really is a fault without limits. Thaksin, me old mate, sit beside me and I'll try to break the news to you gently. Ssshhh, deep breaths, let the muscles relax. OK? Thaksin, you're not allowed back in the sandbox. Sorry, but the other kids don't like your selfish tantrums.

So if he's not relevant, why all the opprobrium?

[maidee]

he should speak to the jail manager, maybe he can build a luxery one for ex PM & MP's & policemen

[Anthony5]

So once again, the fugitive criminal from afar, pretends that Thailand is his property?

[Manbing]

If the big Shin T wants to talk, he must suspect that his sister is in some peril.

It's to be commended that the Thai authorities are following a verifiable legal procedure to nail the Shins.

What ever Big T says is unlikely to be worth the time it takes to listen to it.

One day he makes the statement, I miss Thailand, I love Thai people, I want to come home and reconciliation.

The next day his mood shifts and he promises to come back a reek retribution on everybody that ever stood against him. Calling on revolution and the streets to run red.

The next day it's back to love.

The guys a nutjob

Edited February 17, 2015 by Manbing

[Nickymaster]

And if Prayuth don't want to talk Thaksin will simply say that he never said such thing.

[Nickymaster]

Here lies the question! If it's illegal for Prayuth to talk with Thaksin then why isn't YL being prosecuted for this right now and why was it permissible before.

Also, by Thaksin's own acknowledgement to Prayuths call to talk with someone with power he is admitting that he still controls the Reds and the UDD and is able to end the conflict.

This is the man the country needs to be rid of. Without him the volatile Red will be without support or leadership.

....and money

[geriatrickid]

LOL, such silliness.

Anonymous sources say Thaksin wants to talk.

Anonymous sources say Thaksin has his bags packed and is ready to return.

Anonymous sources say Thaksin is plotting.

And yet, not a public word from the man. It has all allegedly gone through back channels to the military administration, who have made sure to disseminate that all the news about Thaksin waiting for a call. Rrrrrrrrrrrright.

Come on now. In all the years of Thaksin's political activities, when has he employed this strategy? He is more given to speeches to his former power base than sending messages by way of junior message boys.

It suits the military administration's purposes to maintain the spectre of Thaksin. Distract the people from the current ineptitude and focus on an issue that will unite the core groups who supported the coup. Instill fear that all will be lost if the bogey man returns, find an enemy who can unite the dwindling support base and hold on to power as long as possible.

I have said it before and I will say it again. Thaksin isn't coming home anytime soon unless its for his funeral rites. Even if by some magical mystery the man was pardoned tomorrow, he would not return. It is unsafe for him to be in Thailand, and he is not one to risk his life. He would not consider a permanent return unless his supporters were running things and that will not happen for some time.

There is no need to keep bringing up the subject. He's not in Thailand, he's not coming back and his support base isn't what it used to be. It's over.

Edited February 17, 2015 by geriatrickid

[Baerboxer]

"Prayut said that as a state official, he was not permitted by law to meet with someone wanted by the authorities for legal prosecution. And he would be unable to send anyone else to meet Thaksin on his behalf, as that also was against the law."

Er, Uh, Mr. General. Coups are against the law. In civilized countries they are treason. There is room in that sandbox for two people.

Is there no one else suitable to join the sandbox BESIDES Thaksin?

Do the red shirts not have anyone more suitable to hold reconciliation talks other than that misfit megalomaniac?

Is there not a single individual from their group that isn't already facing multiple criminal charges and/or is already convicted (like Thaksin)?

They tried that before in 2010. Red Shirt appointed leaders agreed a deal with Abhisit to end the insurgency. They got a SMS from Thaksin and defaulted on the agreement.

This time round, given all the cock ups the red shirt self appointed leaders and PTP puppets have made, Thaksin will want to handle it himself, not through the usual vassals.

Thaksin will want a full amnesty - outstanding charges, all 15 wiped clean, conviction wiped clean, bail jumping wiped clean, immunity for prosecution for anything else that emerges. In return he'll promise this, that and the other. Would you trust a proven liar, convicted fugitive, and someone who breaks his oaths at the drop of a hat?

If he ever got back, he's start doing exactly the same again - thieving, lying, intimidating and trying to seize power for himself.

[aimbc]

Why should Thaksin be the voice of the red shirts. With all the supposedly red shirts supporters out there, there is not a single one that can truly stand up for them?

It is amazing how the red shirt leaders can not lead it's people with out Thaksin's ok. But we know why, because Thaksin handsomely rewarded them with money and definitely not by his good looks. All it takes is one individual that believes in the red cause and rejects control by Thaksin. Thaksin is obviously living much better than the poor red shirts supporters he used as his political tool. He needs them to continue to build his wealth. What a crock this guy is.

[colinneil]

Every once in a while Thaksin has to spout off about something.

If his name is not in the media he gets withdrawal symtems.

He is a wanted criminal, why oh why do people still take notice of him?

Forget about him move on think about the future for Thailand, not the past.

[A1Str8]

Everytime he wanted to talk, only people with no power were available to him.

Now he wants to talk again but this time to someone with power. But that person rejects him.

Why can't he see that nobody wants to talk to him?

[Artisi]

LOL, such silliness.

Anonymous sources say Thaksin wants to talk.

Anonymous sources say Thaksin has his bags packed and is ready to return.

Anonymous sources say Thaksin is plotting.

And yet, not a public word from the man. It has all allegedly gone through back channels to the military administration, who have made sure to disseminate that all the news about Thaksin waiting for a call. Rrrrrrrrrrrright.

Come on now. In all the years of Thaksin's political activities, when has he employed this strategy? He is more given to speeches to his former power base than sending messages by way of junior message boys.

It suits the military administration's purposes to maintain the spectre of Thaksin. Distract the people from the current ineptitude and focus on an issue that will unite the core groups who supported the coup. Instill fear that all will be lost if the bogey man returns, find an enemy who can unite the dwindling support base and hold on to power as long as possible.

I have said it before and I will say it again. Thaksin isn't coming home anytime soon unless its for his funeral rites. Even if by some magical mystery the man was pardoned tomorrow, he would not return. It is unsafe for him to be in Thailand, and he is not one to risk his life. He would not consider a permanent return unless his supporters were running things and that will not happen for some time.

There is no need to keep bringing up the subject. He's not in Thailand, he's not coming back and his support base isn't what it used to be. It's over.

Agreed, Thaksin should take his bucket and spade and go play with his camel herd in the desert sands.

A complete has-been and irrelevant in todays Thailand, unless he really really wants to come back - then I'm sure they can find him a nice comfortable 6x8 cell somewhere in the south of Thailand where he will be comfortable and completely safe. .

[tomacht8]

Thaksin wants the country to be peaceful and to move forward, the source said.

Thaksin gives a s... for the people and the country,
he is only interested how he can enrich himself and his clan.

[rametindallas]

"Thaksin has been fooled many times already. Such talks often failed in the past, so he wants people with actual power to talk with him," the source said.
Thaksin wants the country to be peaceful and to move forward, the source said.

Here it is, folks! Damned out of his own mouth. Thaksin admits he is behind all the discord and the general has to go through him as he, Thaksin, holds the keys to peace in Thailand and there will be no peace or reconciliation without appeasing him, personally. If he doesn't hold the keys to peace, what standing does he have to be a party to negotiations?

PM Prayut should never talk to this terrorist, murderer, usurper, and fugitive, convicted felon who has no right to ask Thailand for anything when he has taken stolen so much already. I wouldn't wish Thaksin on my worst enemy. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his crotch for all eternity.

[Tatsujin]

"Prayut said that as a state official, he was not permitted by law to meet with someone wanted by the authorities for legal prosecution. And he would be unable to send anyone else to meet Thaksin on his behalf, as that also was against the law."

Er, Uh, Mr. General. Coups are against the law. In civilized countries they are treason. There is room in that sandbox for two people.

You (and others) keep trotting out the "treason" and "against the law" taglines, when it fact, like it or not, as soon as the King endorsed and approved of the coup, it became 100% legal and no longer a coup, and no further legal or criminal actions can be taken against anyone involved, now or in the future.

And you stating otherwise is actually a direct criticism of the Monarchy.

[Tatsujin]

"Thaksin has been fooled many times already. Such talks often failed in the past, so he wants people with actual power to talk with him," the source said.

Thaksin wants the country to be peaceful and to move forward, the source said.

Here it is, folks! Damned out of his own mouth. Thaksin admits he is behind all the discord and the general has to go through him as he, Thaksin, holds the keys to peace in Thailand and there will be no peace or reconciliation without appeasing him, personally. If he doesn't hold the keys to peace, what standing does he have to be a party to negotiations?

PM Prayut should never talk to this terrorist, murderer, usurper, and fugitive, convicted felon who has no right to ask Thailand for anything when he has taken stolen so much already. I wouldn't wish Thaksin on my worst enemy. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his crotch for all eternity.

I would have thought with all these statement from PT/UDD there is a sufficient evidence now to prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Thaksin is still the man behind them all, finances them etc, and that anyone associating with or taking orders from him is breaking the law simply by talking to him.

[ubonjoe]

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