VIPinthailand Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 does it really work? do you like to see these nasty pictures of people having cancer.? I 'm a non smoker, why should I see these disgusting pictures right in front of me in a 7/11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadGeordie Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Just interested HOW do you see them on display ar 7/11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIPinthailand Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 with my 2 eyes, they are just behind the cash register. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanyaburi Mac Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 The pictures are meant to be disgusting, perhaps so you can suggest to your friends and acquaintances to stop the practice. Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 No it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIPinthailand Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 and why it doesn't work? it will happen to you. don't you care at all to die in pain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Complain at 7/11 that they are too lazy to shut the blind after the last customer Cigarettes should never be on "permanent" display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 On 2/28/2015 at 2:15 PM, Thai at Heart said: No it doesn't work. How do you know that? Show us statistics of before and after the pictures and factor in changes in tax levels as well. It's well known for example that raising taxes on ciggies decreases demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I'm guessing it has to work for some... Other countries such as the UK are moving towards Image / Brand free Packaging which may also work. In the UK recently I went to buy a packet of smokes... Now, I'm not a regular smoker, I just want the occasional one with a beer when I fancy it (about 5 a week)... I was not permitted to see what was on offer... so I couldn't make a choice and in the end chose something I remember. It inconvenienced me, but I can see how this strategy of 'hiding' the tobacco products from view would work. I also agree - Why should non-smokers have to see these images ?.... I am a partial smoker and I find 'some' (not all) smokers extremely Anti-social, in their behaviour and expectations in the tolerance of others. Again... Why should not smokers have to see upsetting images of dying people each and every time they pay for something in a 7-11 ??????.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss1960 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 On 9/15/2016 at 2:33 PM, Jingthing said: How do you know that? Show us statistics of before and after the pictures and factor in changes in tax levels as well. It's well known for example that raising taxes on ciggies decreases demand. Pictures do NOT help stop smoking, for various reasons, and I speak as ex-smoker: - one, I felt "lectured" by the pictures and thought "<deleted!>, I know myself what I want to do" - two, you ignore them after a short while OR put the cigs into a neutral box (THAT was a great business idea...) - three, every smoker thinks "it will not hit me..", and every smoker knows dozends of people who smoked till old age and never were sick Same with higher prices, as long as they are raised slowly, it is only a good business for the government (tax volume increases), i.e. in Germany, the market volume did go up from 155 Billion US$ to estimated 171 Billion US$ this year... and at the same time, the smuggling of cigarettes from Eastern Europe into Germany has increased massively over the years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Have You noticed a Friend who rants about Smokers Is a Total Bore.Its Fun to guess what his next bleat will Be.Its normally Thai Driving,Visa,Brexit,or anything else the rest round the table don't give a Rats Arse about.But never Alcohol as he orders his 7th Bottle to your tables 3.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Swiss1960 said: Pictures do NOT help stop smoking, for various reasons, and I speak as ex-smoker: - one, I felt "lectured" by the pictures and thought "<deleted!>, I know myself what I want to do" - two, you ignore them after a short while OR put the cigs into a neutral box (THAT was a great business idea...) - three, every smoker thinks "it will not hit me..", and every smoker knows dozends of people who smoked till old age and never were sick Same with higher prices, as long as they are raised slowly, it is only a good business for the government (tax volume increases), i.e. in Germany, the market volume did go up from 155 Billion US$ to estimated 171 Billion US$ this year... and at the same time, the smuggling of cigarettes from Eastern Europe into Germany has increased massively over the years... Your point is not credible. You speak as one person. You can't possibly know based on your own experience whether there is a larger societal effect, or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 It probably works because if advertisement and the way things look did not work why would the big tobacco companies even set their brand name and make it look nice ? By taking that away it helps.. might nog be much but I am sure there are studies done that show it does. I think smokers should be allowed to smoke.. I have no problems with it. Just in closed spaces it should be outlawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss1960 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 22 hours ago, Jingthing said: Your point is not credible. You speak as one person. You can't possibly know based on your own experience whether there is a larger societal effect, or not. I speak as a person who bought cigarettes on every continent except Australia and have seen thousands of people in those years buying cigarettes with the shock pictures and none of them ever said "oh, I will stop smoking because of these pictures..." WHO said some time back that an increase in tabac prize of 10% will decrease smoker population by 5%, but only in the youth segment who does not yet have "fully developped" salaries. I remember the effect, when Ireland almost doubled the cigarette price... the main effect was that the tobaco companies issued packs with 10 cigarettes, so the younger people could still affort to buy cigarettes... My experience is watching people and neither in Europe nor here have I ever see friends stop smoking because of the pictures on the packs. If those pics would be working, why do Governments and health organizations still spend billions of dollars for anti-smoking campains? Why do health insurance companies pay for anti-smoking medicine (i.e. Champix in Switzerland)? The only reason is that NONE of the anti-smoking campains (shock pics, moderate prize increase, smoking ban even on public beaches in the US of A etc) have had a substantial effect on people stop smoking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeilaLee Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I have to agree that I have seen little evidence that the pictures work. Noone I know has stopped as a result and some people have just started carrying their cigarettes around in a cigarette case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beehelp Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I'm a non-smpker as well. I hate these pictures and just try to get eyes away but it won't help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasanews Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 No they don't work because most pictures tell false information about the real effects of smoking. If they instead post true warning like smoking effects your arteries then people might think more serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuntyC0re Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 these pictures don't scary me at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 On 6/29/2017 at 6:49 PM, MuntyC0re said: these pictures don't scary me at all In the past I really objected to have to sit and eat with smoke wafting over ..now all that has been stopped. When I see smokers now I just think ...wonder if you know what may very well come to you ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso49 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 On 9/25/2016 at 10:24 AM, Swiss1960 said: I speak as a person who bought cigarettes on every continent except Australia and have seen thousands of people in those years buying cigarettes with the shock pictures and none of them ever said "oh, I will stop smoking because of these pictures..." WHO said some time back that an increase in tabac prize of 10% will decrease smoker population by 5%, but only in the youth segment who does not yet have "fully developped" salaries. I remember the effect, when Ireland almost doubled the cigarette price... the main effect was that the tobaco companies issued packs with 10 cigarettes, so the younger people could still affort to buy cigarettes... My experience is watching people and neither in Europe nor here have I ever see friends stop smoking because of the pictures on the packs. If those pics would be working, why do Governments and health organizations still spend billions of dollars for anti-smoking campains? Why do health insurance companies pay for anti-smoking medicine (i.e. Champix in Switzerland)? The only reason is that NONE of the anti-smoking campains (shock pics, moderate prize increase, smoking ban even on public beaches in the US of A etc) have had a substantial effect on people stop smoking So please tell us which shop you have bought cigarettes in in Antarctica. Just interested as to whether or not there is any veracity in your diatribe that you have purchased cigarettes on every continent except Australia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 In LOS they cannot be on display...But even if they are you must have bloody good eyesight to complain about the pics...? Anyhooo, some of those in the pics for years used to ride a bike behind diesel pickups and buses going to work....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 9/24/2016 at 8:25 AM, Swiss1960 said: Pictures do NOT help stop smoking, for various reasons, and I speak as ex-smoker: - one, I felt "lectured" by the pictures and thought "<deleted!>, I know myself what I want to do" - two, you ignore them after a short while OR put the cigs into a neutral box (THAT was a great business idea...) - three, every smoker thinks "it will not hit me..", and every smoker knows dozens of people who smoked till old age and never were sick 1 That's a very broad statement to make. Just because it doesn't slow you down doesn't mean it doesn't help. Most smokers have concerned family and partners that may care about them. Their influence could help. Just imagine the distress of a young child after viewing these packets. They'll have to lie to their kids that smoking is healthy and they won't die. Yeah "every smoker knows dozens of people who smoked till old age and never were sick". For starters, how did a person who was never sick die? Something killed them in the end, and I'll put money down that if they were heavy smokers the reason is smoking related. Maybe they could have had 10 or more good years had they not smoked, and enjoyed all their living years more. It's just an old wive's tale smokers continue to tell everyone to justify their habit. Smoke if you will, but don't tell lies to justify it. People might believe you and use it as a reason to continue smoking. People who smoke are usually looking for any excuse to continue, mostly because it is a very hard habit to break. It doesn't matter how fit and healthy a smoker thinks they are, they are compromising their potential and health in very clear and defined ways. Lungs and all the cells in your body much prefer fresh air over smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 9/25/2016 at 10:24 AM, Swiss1960 said: I speak as a person who bought cigarettes on every continent except Australia and have seen thousands of people in those years buying cigarettes with the shock pictures and none of them ever said "oh, I will stop smoking because of these pictures..." WHO said some time back that an increase in tabac prize of 10% will decrease smoker population by 5%, but only in the youth segment who does not yet have "fully developped" salaries. I remember the effect, when Ireland almost doubled the cigarette price... the main effect was that the tobaco companies issued packs with 10 cigarettes, so the younger people could still affort to buy cigarettes... My experience is watching people and neither in Europe nor here have I ever see friends stop smoking because of the pictures on the packs. If those pics would be working, why do Governments and health organizations still spend billions of dollars for anti-smoking campains? Why do health insurance companies pay for anti-smoking medicine (i.e. Champix in Switzerland)? The only reason is that NONE of the anti-smoking campains (shock pics, moderate prize increase, smoking ban even on public beaches in the US of A etc) have had a substantial effect on people stop smoking Maybe if you had bought cigarettes in Australia you would have thought otherwise: https://www.nova969.com.au/news/cigarette-prices-are-set-increase-australia You may draw attention to this paragraph: "But it seems as though the price hikes have done little to convince smokers to quit with Australia seeing just a 0.2 per cent drop in smokers over the last three years." That's a useless assessment because it totally ignores the drop in smokers prior to 3 years ago, and also because prior to 3 years ago cigarettes in Australia were still VERY expensive. They have been expensive for a long time. I'm not sure how long though as I'm not a smoker. Perhaps some Australian smoker could inform us about the price rise over recent decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin612 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 absolutely, it is just to prevent more people to smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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