Iranian arrested with fake passport in NE Thailand

[rametindallas]

There were also 2 Iranians of military ages who used stolen passports on the I'll fated Malaysian airlines Rhat has still never been located.

Why is this pertinent? Because there's an insurgency down in the South and Iran has been a state sponsor of terrorism for decades, always keep an open mind with Iranians and stolen passports!!!

It's a bit naive and lack of knowledge / informtion to compare iranian individuals with terrorists . People like this are always trying to run away from terrorism and problems that come with it , they are just looking for freedom . Don't confuse people with their governments .. So easy to point fingers !

I think you're the one being naive/ lack knowledge. What part of the OP made you think the Iranian was trying to run away from terrorism. Really, there's terrorism in Iran? Maybe you have some links to share.

Don't confuse decent, law-abiding people with people who travel on stolen passports or consort with the kind of people who would sell them stolen passports. Are you saying there is no place for them to seek asylum from persecution? In any case, the Iranian was already safe from terrorism in Laos yet felt the need to illegally enter Thailand. Yes, it IS easy to point fingers at people who clearly engage in criminal behavior.

[Seastallion]

The story reads, he had a valid Iranian passport in his bag.

Clearly, he was up to something and was caught

Indeed. This may have nothing to do with all the sensational international terrorism, Japanese Iranian Mafia, Malaysian planes etc.

It may simply be he's double-dipping on his tourist visa so that one identity doesn't have too many consecutive visa runs.

Sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one.

[Seastallion]

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There were also 2 Iranians of military ages who used stolen passports on the I'll fated Malaysian airlines Rhat has still never been located.

Why is this pertinent? Because there's an insurgency down in the South and Iran has been a state sponsor of terrorism for decades, always keep an open mind with Iranians and stolen passports!!!

Fair enough that was suss but let us not forget that it was the US that overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran in the 50s and installed their puppet the Shar and his secret police.

How would Iran's history have changed if the US hadn't overthrown yet another democratically elected regime?

Hard to figure out their love of democracy when they keep overthrowing fairly elected governments they don't like.

What was the reason for the US involvement in Iran in the 50s and was it what the people wanted.

Oil. Who cares what those people wanted. In God We Trust.

Oil, yes.....Iran was given something like 5 cents in the dollar while BP took home 95 cents.

There was also a British monopoly on buying and selling tobacco.

[trogers]

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There were also 2 Iranians of military ages who used stolen passports on the I'll fated Malaysian airlines Rhat has still never been located.

Why is this pertinent? Because there's an insurgency down in the South and Iran has been a state sponsor of terrorism for decades, always keep an open mind with Iranians and stolen passports!!!

Fair enough that was suss but let us not forget that it was the US that overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran in the 50s and installed their puppet the Shar and his secret police.

How would Iran's history have changed if the US hadn't overthrown yet another democratically elected regime?

Hard to figure out their love of democracy when they keep overthrowing fairly elected governments they don't like.

What was the reason for the US involvement in Iran in the 50s and was it what the people wanted.

Oil. Who cares what those people wanted. In God We Trust.

Oil, yes.....Iran was given something like 5 cents in the dollar while BP took home 95 cents.

There was also a British monopoly on buying and selling tobacco.

Western democracy at its best. The first strike wave, democratic armed forces. The second wave, democratic business empires.

[Johnny S]

There were also 2 Iranians of military ages who used stolen passports on the I'll fated Malaysian airlines Rhat has still never been located.

Why is this pertinent? Because there's an insurgency down in the South and Iran has been a state sponsor of terrorism for decades, always keep an open mind with Iranians and stolen passports!!!

Iranians use most of the time a fake passport to travel to Europe. Most of the Iranians travel on a fake passport have nothing to do with the Iranian regime. MAy be you shoukd ask Uncle Sam why MH 370 has never been found yet. Don't blame it on the Iranian.

State terrorism goes both ways. I remember the Israeli that were arrested in New Zealand a few years ago too.

Let me guess you come from Uncle Sam country. Don't look to much Fox News.

I guess you are watching Al Jazeera ...

[watso63]

There were also 2 Iranians of military ages who used stolen passports on the I'll fated Malaysian airlines Rhat has still never been located.

Why is this pertinent? Because there's an insurgency down in the South and Iran has been a state sponsor of terrorism for decades, always keep an open mind with Iranians and stolen passports!!!

Fair enough that was suss but let us not forget that it was the US that overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran in the 50s and installed their puppet the Shar and his secret police.

How would Iran's history have changed if the US hadn't overthrown yet another democratically elected regime?

Hard to figure out their love of democracy when they keep overthrowing fairly elected governments they don't like.

Mate I'm talking about present day, not over 60 years back, the al Quds Force operates globally and have been found as far afield as Venezuela, they work closely with Hezbollah and Hamas amongst other Shia terror factions.

Both of these have also been active in UAE and Mossad has targeted them with succes there.

I wish you'd stop the anti American crap, as this hasn't got anything to do with them or foreign policies, Iran is a problem for their neighbours too. I'm sure you also know they're frequently denying the holocaust too ?

In the interest of balance???

[geriatrickid]

There were also 2 Iranians of military ages who used stolen passports on the I'll fated Malaysian airlines Rhat has still never been located.

Why is this pertinent? Because there's an insurgency down in the South and Iran has been a state sponsor of terrorism for decades, always keep an open mind with Iranians and stolen passports!!!

It's a bit naive and lack of knowledge / informtion to compare iranian individuals with terrorists . People like this are always trying to run away from terrorism and problems that come with it , they are just looking for freedom . Don't confuse people with their governments .. So easy to point fingers !

Highly unlikely he was looking for "freedom" in this manner. Iranian refugees prefer the EU as there are generous benefits to be had.

I would expect that our Farsi friend has some questionable business investments in Thailand. I would expect a link to drug trafficking rather than terrorism, although the proceeds of drug trafficing are often used to fund terrorism.

[geriatrickid]

In the interest of balance???

What a load of malarkey.

Iran currently occupies a part of the UAE after its illegal invasion.

Iran has its Republican guard actively involved in Iraq, and Syria and has sent its trainers and missile specialists to install, and operate missile launch sites in Hizbollah controlled parts of Lebanon. Iran tacitly supported the Taliban and has actively targeted dissidents in foreign countries such as Australia, Canada and the UK.

Iran is a threat to world peace and its nationals must be treated accordingly.

[simple1]

In the interest of balance???

What a load of malarkey.

Iran currently occupies a part of the UAE after its illegal invasion.

Iran has its Republican guard actively involved in Iraq, and Syria and has sent its trainers and missile specialists to install, and operate missile launch sites in Hizbollah controlled parts of Lebanon. Iran tacitly supported the Taliban and has actively targeted dissidents in foreign countries such as Australia, Canada and the UK.

Iran is a threat to world peace and its nationals must be treated accordingly.

As you well know Iran is not the sole player in regional balance of power upmanship that causes death and destruction. However, whilst it may be off topic an interesting prior analysis of the Iranian / Taliban relationship.

Tehran's sponsorship of the Taliban is thus consistent with Iran's strategy of countering U.S./NATO influence through asymmetric proxy warfare. While Iran's measured support for the Taliban provided Tehran with greater leverage over the Karzai government, it was primarily motivated by its hostile relationship with the U.S.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-wagner/the-paradoxical-afghanira_b_4277936.html

[watso63]

In the interest of balance???

What a load of malarkey.

Iran currently occupies a part of the UAE after its illegal invasion.

Iran has its Republican guard actively involved in Iraq, and Syria and has sent its trainers and missile specialists to install, and operate missile launch sites in Hizbollah controlled parts of Lebanon. Iran tacitly supported the Taliban and has actively targeted dissidents in foreign countries such as Australia, Canada and the UK.

Iran is a threat to world peace and its nationals must be treated accordingly.

Of course they are in Iraq, it's all part of the game. Overthrow illegally an anti Alqaeda Sunni muslim, therefore anti CIA, anti American leader (who was a valued ally of US policy until he outlived his usefulness) and install a Shia puppet government. When are you going to grow up and open your eyes? I am not a conspiracy theorist, but a realist ex soldier with 22 years experience. Please enlighten me about how exactly WTC7 fell down, never mind the rest! I'm in no way defending this particular Iranian lowlife. Of course he had a reason not to travel on his own passport, so the Thai authorities did a good job of apprehending him . By the way I'm not a yank basher. My own lot, especially Blar are just as culpable. Have a nice day y'all.

[Naam]

TOP MARKS to the THAI Police/Immigration people!

yeah! i too feel and sleep much better now knowing the authorities did a brilliant job

[Fat Haggis]

Even the cops themselves stated its possible he's had links to terrorists/ terrorism ?

That's possibke not probable for you fence sitters, but he's had a very significant business going on indeed!!

[Chicog]

In the interest of balance???

What a load of malarkey.

Iran currently occupies a part of the UAE after its illegal invasion.

Iran has its Republican guard actively involved in Iraq, and Syria and has sent its trainers and missile specialists to install, and operate missile launch sites in Hizbollah controlled parts of Lebanon. Iran tacitly supported the Taliban and has actively targeted dissidents in foreign countries such as Australia, Canada and the UK.

Iran is a threat to world peace and its nationals must be treated accordingly.

Oooohh very dramatic, but there are a few holes to fill there.

The Tunb Islands were Iranian from 1622 and were stolen from Iran by the British in 1921 (there was no UAE in 1921, so how could they have a claim on them?). Iran rightly took them back when the British left, kicking out a few Sharjah soldiers in the process since that's who was running them.

The UAE's tenuous claim on them is probably more about oil and gas than anything territorial - maybe even fish.

Next:

Iran is helping Iraq (and Syria - and by dint, the UK, US, France and the rest) fight IS. I don't think that is a bad thing, do you?

The US also tacitly supported the Taliban once, or have you forgotten?

I can post pictures of Ronnie Reagan cozying up to them if you like.

Oh what the hell....

Hizbollah are between a rock and a hard place at the moment, Israelis hating them on the one side, IS and the Syrian Sunni on the other. I don't think they are much of a threat to anyone.

I think quite a few countries target dissidents hiding in other countries, Israel are pretty good at it.

Twaddle like that post doesn't really do much to support any argument against Iran.

Added: Doesn't mean I don't think this bloke was up to no good, but he might have been testing the waters for a meth run.

Edited March 19, 2015 by Chicog