NeverSure Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 The topic is about a "draft agreement." This is the "agreement" process where Obama has gone around Congress, and Congress just shut it down. A veto-proof majority of bipartisan congressmen just wrote a letter to Iran telling Iran the they would make the decisions, embarrassing Obama on the world state and shutting down his end-run around Congress. No, this isn't the recent Republican letter. This is a new and big one that shuts it down. Make all the noise you want. Obama is going nowhere with his "negotiations". This post is just one factual misrepresentation after another. First of all, Congress hasn't "shut down" anything. In fact the US Senate just granted the president a few more weeks to continue with the negotiations. Secondly, as of this moment there is not a "veto proof majority" in the Senate. There might be next month, but there isn't now. Thirdly, this is not "the big one that shuts it down". Nothing is "shut down". Finally, the negotiations are going somewhere: they're moving forward. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/senate-grants-obama-weeks-long-reprieve-on-iran-bill-116250.html?hp=l1_3 Great post, though! And, your article ends: "And GOP leaders said this week they are likely to speed the bill to the floor as soon as it clears committee." "Meanwhile Corker, who didn’t sign the letter to Iranian leaders and maintains a good working relationship with many top White House officials, is raring to go. “It’s evident that they are using every tactic available to keep people from our exercising our appropriate role as senators,” Corker said of the White House in an interview this week. “They should have embraced an effort for Congress to say grace, to weigh in on this deal. And instead they’ve taken exactly the opposite tact.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chuckd Posted March 20, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2015 Another view...mods please delete if language is inappropriate, and my apologies. I watched this nonsense until about the 2:40 mark or so when the kid with the headphones went ballistic. Mika Brzenski asked a question about Joe Biden at the 1:33 mark, which Senator Cotton answered at the 2:10 mark. The blogger was claiming Senator Cotton was wrong when he said "Joe Biden had been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy development for the last 50 years". The kid was indignant in all his self righteous glory about what Senator Cotton claimed. He was wrong. Senator Cotton never made the claim himself. What the Senator said was that Obama's Secretary of Defense made the comment about Joe Biden's success rate. The title of this video is...GOP Senator embarrasses himself over Iran The only one being embarrassed is the blogger +1. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seastallion Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Both Mossad and the CIA don't regard Iran as a nuclear threat, neither organisation has a reputation as doves. As such this is all politics being led by the defacto US leader Netanyahu. There are powerful factions that want war, if not Russia then Iran will suffice. ...and yet, coming out today is this lone dissenting voice: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Petraeus: Iran more of a threat than ISIL By NICK GASS 3/20/15 7:52 AM EDT Former CIA Director Gen. David Petraeus says the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant is not the biggest threat facing the United States in Iraq. “In fact, I would argue that the foremost threat to Iraq’s long-term stability and the broader regional equilibrium is not the Islamic State; rather, it is Shiite militias, many backed by — and some guided by — Iran,” Petraeus said in written comments to The Washington Post’s Beirut bureau chief, Liz Sly. The Iranian regime “is ultimately part of the problem, not the solution” to the region’s issues, Petraeus said. Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/petraeus-iraq-iran-islamic-state-116255.html#ixzz3UwyMk900 How seriously can you take the words of someone who is so untrustworthy that he can't even be honest to his wife, and who passes on state secrets to his mistress? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seastallion Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Another view...mods please delete if language is inappropriate, and my apologies. I watched this nonsense until about the 2:40 mark or so when the kid with the headphones went ballistic. Mika Brzenski asked a question about Joe Biden at the 1:33 mark, which Senator Cotton answered at the 2:10 mark. The blogger was claiming Senator Cotton was wrong when he said "Joe Biden had been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy development for the last 50 years". The kid was indignant in all his self righteous glory about what Senator Cotton claimed. He was wrong. Senator Cotton never made the claim himself. What the Senator said was that Obama's Secretary of Defense made the comment about Joe Biden's success rate. The title of this video is...GOP Senator embarrasses himself over Iran The only one being embarrassed is the blogger +1. Lol, I agree the histrionics are OTT, however, looking past that, if you had watched the whole thing, it is quite revealing, especially with regard to Iran and how the US is to blame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chuckd Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 Both Mossad and the CIA don't regard Iran as a nuclear threat, neither organisation has a reputation as doves. As such this is all politics being led by the defacto US leader Netanyahu. There are powerful factions that want war, if not Russia then Iran will suffice. ...and yet, coming out today is this lone dissenting voice: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Petraeus: Iran more of a threat than ISIL By NICK GASS 3/20/15 7:52 AM EDT Former CIA Director Gen. David Petraeus says the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant is not the biggest threat facing the United States in Iraq. “In fact, I would argue that the foremost threat to Iraq’s long-term stability and the broader regional equilibrium is not the Islamic State; rather, it is Shiite militias, many backed by — and some guided by — Iran,” Petraeus said in written comments to The Washington Post’s Beirut bureau chief, Liz Sly. The Iranian regime “is ultimately part of the problem, not the solution” to the region’s issues, Petraeus said. Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/petraeus-iraq-iran-islamic-state-116255.html#ixzz3UwyMk900 How seriously can you take the words of someone who is so untrustworthy that he can't even be honest to his wife, and who passes on state secrets to his mistress? Obviously you did not read the link. You might have picked up this little gem and would not have had to make your rather unnecessary comment about his personal transgressions. From the Politico link provided earlier. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The White House confirmed Monday that the administration is consulting Petraeus for advice on how to deal with threats posed by ISIL, despite his recent admission that he shared classified information with his mistress. “He is, I think, legitimately regarded as an expert, when it comes to the security situation in Iraq,” White House press secretary Josh Earnest said. “So I think it makes a lot of sense for senior administration officials to, on occasion, consult him for advice.” Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/petraeus-iraq-iran-islamic-state-116255.html#ixzz3Uzl4YOkL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FYI, Monica Lewinsky is back in the news again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Another view...mods please delete if language is inappropriate, and my apologies. I watched this nonsense until about the 2:40 mark or so when the kid with the headphones went ballistic. Mika Brzenski asked a question about Joe Biden at the 1:33 mark, which Senator Cotton answered at the 2:10 mark. The blogger was claiming Senator Cotton was wrong when he said "Joe Biden had been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy development for the last 50 years". The kid was indignant in all his self righteous glory about what Senator Cotton claimed. He was wrong. Senator Cotton never made the claim himself. What the Senator said was that Obama's Secretary of Defense made the comment about Joe Biden's success rate. The title of this video is...GOP Senator embarrasses himself over Iran The only one being embarrassed is the blogger +1. It's OK though, Teheran Tom has already embarrassed himself enough for a whole senate full of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 The original position was a cap of around 1500 centrifuges. With 6000 I suspect the so called breakout time to enriching enough material for a bomb would be 2-3 months and not the year the clueless Obama administration would have us believe. The following article has a chronological list of statements about the Iranian nuclear developments. To conclude he is a compulsive liar is inescapable. http://pamelageller.com/2015/03/iran-endorses-nuclear-emp-attack-on-united-states-while-obama-clings-clinging-to-preposterous-argument.html/ So you're a nuclear scientist now? Or just hiding under the bed from this complete sensationalist nonsense. Thus, Iran with a small number of nuclear missiles can by EMP attack threaten the existence of modernity and be the death knell for Western principles of international law, humanism and freedom. For the first time in history, a failed state like Iran could destroy the most successful societies on Earth and convert an evolving benign world order into world chaos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Another view...mods please delete if language is inappropriate, and my apologies. I watched this nonsense until about the 2:40 mark or so when the kid with the headphones went ballistic. Mika Brzenski asked a question about Joe Biden at the 1:33 mark, which Senator Cotton answered at the 2:10 mark. The blogger was claiming Senator Cotton was wrong when he said "Joe Biden had been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy development for the last 50 years". The kid was indignant in all his self righteous glory about what Senator Cotton claimed. He was wrong. Senator Cotton never made the claim himself. What the Senator said was that Obama's Secretary of Defense made the comment about Joe Biden's success rate. The title of this video is...GOP Senator embarrasses himself over Iran The only one being embarrassed is the blogger +1. Also the blogger claims Iran doesn't want the bomb! If he believe that nonsense then he has his head in the sand. If Iran didn't want the bomb there would be no need for them to enrich uranium to the level they want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckd Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 The French seem to be taking a tougher position than Obama. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- France Takes Toughest Line at Iran Nuclear Talks Negotiations move closer to March 31 cutoff without a breakthrough By JAY SOLOMON and LAURENCE NORMAN Updated March 20, 2015 5:40 p.m. ET LAUSANNE, Switzerland—France is again adopting the toughest line against Iran in negotiations aimed at curbing Tehran’s nuclear program, potentially placing Paris at odds with the Obama administration as a diplomatic deadline to forge an agreement approaches at month-end. President Barack Obama called French President François Hollande on Friday to discuss the Iran diplomacy and try to unify their positions. The presidents “reaffirmed their commitment” to a deal “while noting that Iran must take steps to resolve several remaining issues,” the White House said. French diplomats have been publicly pressing the U.S. and other world powers not to give ground on key elements—particularly the speed of lifting United Nations sanctions and the pledge to constrain Iran’s nuclear research work—ahead of the March 31 target. http://www.wsj.com/articles/european-leaders-discuss-iran-nuclear-talks-1426845251 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 The French seem to be taking a tougher position than Obama. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- France Takes Toughest Line at Iran Nuclear Talks Negotiations move closer to March 31 cutoff without a breakthrough By JAY SOLOMON and LAURENCE NORMAN Updated March 20, 2015 5:40 p.m. ET LAUSANNE, Switzerland—France is again adopting the toughest line against Iran in negotiations aimed at curbing Tehran’s nuclear program, potentially placing Paris at odds with the Obama administration as a diplomatic deadline to forge an agreement approaches at month-end. President Barack Obama called French President François Hollande on Friday to discuss the Iran diplomacy and try to unify their positions. The presidents “reaffirmed their commitment” to a deal “while noting that Iran must take steps to resolve several remaining issues,” the White House said. French diplomats have been publicly pressing the U.S. and other world powers not to give ground on key elements—particularly the speed of lifting United Nations sanctions and the pledge to constrain Iran’s nuclear research work—ahead of the March 31 target. http://www.wsj.com/articles/european-leaders-discuss-iran-nuclear-talks-1426845251 With Obama at the helm, we have seen the Freedom Fries, and the Freedom Fries are us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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