Poll: Thai people find post-coup politics better

[96tehtarp]

What complete utter bullshit

Poll: Thai people find post-coup politics better

They must all be related to Costas

One way or another the mob rule in Bangkok had to be stopped. The coup did that. My survey of Thai people I know agrees with the OP that with respect to social disorder life is better now post coup. The clincher is; Thai people want the military out of governance & personally they do not like the junta leader. Most, however, do agree that life without sick happy clapping mobs is much better. Thai people are generally a short-term thinking lot, in my experience.

[toybits]

Huh??? People are banned from gathering. How can that be???

[phoenixdoglover]

Politics? Is there any politics at the national level in Thailand now? I would say the Junta has pretty much suppressed it.

[96tehtarp]

Politics? Is there any politics at the national level in Thailand now? I would say the Junta has pretty much suppressed it.

Let there be no doubt about it, political rallies are banned by martial law and this is ferociously enforced by the junta's army. Look at what happened to the troublemakers eating sandwiches, reading 1984, or making some silly three finger salute. This is banned.

[jayboy]

Politics? Is there any politics at the national level in Thailand now? I would say the Junta has pretty much suppressed it.

But at least the people are happy.The Guardian has an interesting analysis.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/22/bangkok-big-brother-politics-ruling-party-democracy

[h90]

Not a surprise:

Yingluck

Abhisit

Somchai

Samak

My dog would make better politics than these 4.....

[Fat Haggis]

What complete utter bullshit

Just can't accept the truth can you!!!

I think that politics (without democracy) is wonderful.

Maybe next time you're voting you can vote for .....oh wait, you don't have a vote.. Unlike many millions of people Thais who do.

And politics without a democracy is also known as a dictatorship and you crack if your Thai family are happy to accept the curent situation, which will all change when the event happens anyway

I'm happy as things are - it seems that your (so-called) dictatorship, which it is not BTW, is far preferable to democracy as things have improved in virtually every aspect since the junta started on putting things right!!

I hope that the referendum (if we have one) is rejected and the 'good general' stays in power for longer to finish his job of cleaning up politics and making the politicians impotent as they have spent decades abusing their power and it has to be stopped.

In order to do this the Shinawatra's and his murdering foot soldiers must be eliminated as they are an unnecessary evil that doesn't belong in Thailand.

your happiness doesn't count, you have zero say in what goes on anyway.

Interesting that you use the word we, when refering to a referendum, so you're a Permanent Resident in Thailand, if not, unless you have a vote, the word you should be using is they/them, their, as in it's their country, not yours.

How's the economy doing and the small business zones by the way?

I suspect you're a reincarnation of a previous poster, you sure have a very colourful way of describing what must be done, seeing as you're up there on the fanboy list, and you believe this is your country, why don't you go down to the Royal Thai Army recruiting office and join up for free, so you can help "eliminate" the opposition, but I suspect you're all mouth and no trousers, love to talk the talk, but can't walk the walk.

it's hilarious that you describe what the "good General" must do, which is exactly what you claim his Government are not.

I don't suppose the Army have ever been corrupt, or made poor decisions that cost Millions either? Google their Golf ball detector device that they think detects explosives..

[lucky11]

Do you call the rice scam that lost 600 billion baht innovation?

Maybe the clean up needs to serve the privileged as they are the clever people that make money for Thailand to subsidise the rice farmers (that cost everyone an arm and leg) in lost revenue. They, the elite, if you want to call them that, also supply a large amount of jobs for Thai's and they must be pretty good as it as Thailand has probably the lowest unemployment rate in the world.

Please tell me how the rice farmers benefit the country as I would be interested to know!!

One other thing, was putting someone who was not clever and with zero political experience in charge of the country for the sole reason to get her brother an amnesty a justified reason. These politicians have had more than a fair crack of the whip and have failed miserably in whatever they have done. Time to let the clever people engineer the way forward and if that means disqualifying the politicians then I'm all for it!!

Goodbye corruption and hello to a cleaner, better educated and honest people that actually know what they are doing.

[Fat Haggis]

Thank goodness you are happy. That makes all the difference to those who voted in the last election. Also, foriegners and Thais trying to do business in the kingdom who have been disenfranchised by changes at immigration which has discouraged innovation. The clean up will serve the privileged, as the last coup tried to do.

Have you ever wondered what exactly made these Kool Aid drinking farangs lives so miserable before the coup in the first place that they've rejoiced the second coming?

I was always of the belief that when something is too good to be true, it normally is (too good that is)

[philw]

Politics? Is there any politics at the national level in Thailand now? I would say the Junta has pretty much suppressed it.

But at least the people are happy.The Guardian has an interesting analysis.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/22/bangkok-big-brother-politics-ruling-party-democracy

Too subtle, but I understand self-censorship forbids statement of fact , truth or reality.

[Mr Somtam]

The pile of bulldung is getting skyhigh... Ugh!

[lucky11]

Politics? Is there any politics at the national level in Thailand now? I would say the Junta has pretty much suppressed it.

But at least the people are happy.The Guardian has an interesting analysis.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/22/bangkok-big-brother-politics-ruling-party-democracy

Analysis!!!!

This is such a load of garbage that I had to stop myself giggling as I skipped through the paragraphs.

I don't remember Prayut holding a gun at Yingluck's head. The only guns that were being used at the time were those in the hands of red shirts.

I've heard that she has now got a job at the SUN newspaper as she was out of her depth writing for an adult newspaper - comics are far more suited to her style!!!

[CharlieH]

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[Fat Haggis]

Politics? Is there any politics at the national level in Thailand now? I would say the Junta has pretty much suppressed it.

But at least the people are happy.The Guardian has an interesting analysis.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/22/bangkok-big-brother-politics-ruling-party-democracy

Analysis!!!!

This is such a load of garbage that I had to stop myself giggling as I skipped through the paragraphs.

I don't remember Prayut holding a gun at Yingluck's head. The only guns that were being used at the time were those in the hands of red shirts.

I've heard that she has now got a job at the SUN newspaper as she was out of her depth writing for an adult newspaper - comics are far more suited to her style!!!

The ONLY guns were used by the red shirts? while you were giggling so hard did it slip your mind that elements of the PDRC had weapons and that the popcorn gunman is awaiting trial for being in possession of one, amongst other things?

[Lupatria]

What complete utter bullshit

Poll: Thai people find post-coup politics better

They must all be related to Costas

Military coups works well here same as in Greece, and once you are used to it it feels natural.

[phoenixdoglover]

Politics? Is there any politics at the national level in Thailand now? I would say the Junta has pretty much suppressed it.

But at least the people are happy.The Guardian has an interesting analysis.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/22/bangkok-big-brother-politics-ruling-party-democracy

Analysis!!!!

This is such a load of garbage that I had to stop myself giggling as I skipped through the paragraphs.

I don't remember Prayut holding a gun at Yingluck's head. The only guns that were being used at the time were those in the hands of red shirts.

I've heard that she has now got a job at the SUN newspaper as she was out of her depth writing for an adult newspaper - comics are far more suited to her style!!!

Rebuttal to analysis does not contain rebuttal.

I thought the Guardian article captured the madness very well. Thanks to jayboy for the link.

Edited March 22, 2015 by phoenixdoglover

[kimamey]

Ah another poll saying things are better since the coup - must be Sunday.

It could be that most people aren't that interested in politics which is true in a lot of countries sadly. Those in Bangkok can now move around freely so that may seem more important to them. Unless they're politically motivated the lack of free speech probably isn't a great concern to most people who are just living as normal.

It's not unlike China. Those in charge can get away with the lack of democracy so long as enough people are doing OK. If there were a major financial disaster or something else that adversely affected large parts of the population then they would be in danger.

On the basis of day to day life for average people, are they really suffering? I doubt it. If as seems possible the crackdown at the top is a bit one sided then it's just a case of those who were doing well now aren't and have been replaced by those who weren't doing so well before. Many people on here and throughout the country know the dangers of the type of corruption that seems so common here but frequent surveys show that a lot of Thais don't understand or just don't worry about those dangers so long as they're getting some benefit out of it.

So long as democracy comes back within say a couple of years then there's not really a problem. If the delay becomes longer or indefinite then people's apathy will be of more concern.

Of course this survey could show, not how good politics are now but how bad and lacking in relevance to average people they were before.

[Torrens54]

Suck it up you "Doubting Dolts."

Unless YOU want to go out and conduct your own scientific survey, learn to live with the results of those who do take the trouble...or take a final trip to the nearest airport. Quite simple isn't it?

[kimamey]

What complete utter bullshit

Poll: Thai people find post-coup politics better

They must all be related to Costas

One way or another the mob rule in Bangkok had to be stopped. The coup did that. My survey of Thai people I know agrees with the OP that with respect to social disorder life is better now post coup. The clincher is; Thai people want the military out of governance & personally they do not like the junta leader. Most, however, do agree that life without sick happy clapping mobs is much better. Thai people are generally a short-term thinking lot, in my experience.

Not necessarily just Thais.

[lucky11]

Politics? Is there any politics at the national level in Thailand now? I would say the Junta has pretty much suppressed it.

But at least the people are happy.The Guardian has an interesting analysis.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/22/bangkok-big-brother-politics-ruling-party-democracy

Analysis!!!!

This is such a load of garbage that I had to stop myself giggling as I skipped through the paragraphs.

I don't remember Prayut holding a gun at Yingluck's head. The only guns that were being used at the time were those in the hands of red shirts.

I've heard that she has now got a job at the SUN newspaper as she was out of her depth writing for an adult newspaper - comics are far more suited to her style!!!

The ONLY guns were used by the red shirts? while you were giggling so hard did it slip your mind that elements of the PDRC had weapons and that the popcorn gunman is awaiting trial for being in possession of one, amongst other things?

What, you mean you can name 1 against so many assassin red shirts - I hardly think that the whole of the PDRC can be implicated by a single idiot that is not representative of the movement!!

[phoenixdoglover]

Suck it up you "Doubting Dolts."

Unless YOU want to go out and conduct your own scientific survey, learn to live with the results of those who do take the trouble...or take a final trip to the nearest airport. Quite simple isn't it?

There is nothing in the original post that would indicate it was a "scientific survey". All we are told is the number of people surveyed.

Here's a good rule of thumb: Unless a report on a survey gives you the methodology and the actual questions asked, don't rely on it to form your opinion.

[billphillips]

"...the strength of Thai politics is the military government which has the absolute authority over decision-making. The weaknesses of Thai politics are disunity and corruption."

I'll agree with that if "strength" means military might.

Or a gun or two.

[MW72]

Do you call the rice scam that lost 600 billion baht innovation?

Maybe the clean up needs to serve the privileged as they are the clever people that make money for Thailand to subsidise the rice farmers (that cost everyone an arm and leg) in lost revenue. They, the elite, if you want to call them that, also supply a large amount of jobs for Thai's and they must be pretty good as it as Thailand has probably the lowest unemployment rate in the world.

Please tell me how the rice farmers benefit the country as I would be interested to know!!

One other thing, was putting someone who was not clever and with zero political experience in charge of the country for the sole reason to get her brother an amnesty a justified reason. These politicians have had more than a fair crack of the whip and have failed miserably in whatever they have done. Time to let the clever people engineer the way forward and if that means disqualifying the politicians then I'm all for it!!

Goodbye corruption and hello to a cleaner, better educated and honest people that actually know what they are doing.

"Please tell me how the rice farmers benefit the country as I would be interested to know!! "

They grow the food that people eat. It really is that simple. And you talk about Yingluck not being clever?

[MW72]

Suck it up you "Doubting Dolts."

Unless YOU want to go out and conduct your own scientific survey, learn to live with the results of those who do take the trouble...or take a final trip to the nearest airport. Quite simple isn't it?

"or take a final trip to the nearest airport"

Congratulations for the most original post of the year!

"Suck it up you "Doubting Dolts"

What is there to doubt? This poll adds nothing. It states the bleeding obvious. Take the following quotes from the OP.

"the majority of respondents had a feeling that political conflicts within the country had noticeably subsided under the leadership of PM Prayut Chan-o-cha. Compared to the period before the coup, Thai political situation nowadays is more peaceful in their opinion."

No $#it Sherlock. A year ago parts of BKK were at a stand still. Grenades were being thrown and "civilians" were walking the streets with automatic rifles. Of course things are more peaceful now. I don't need a poll to tell me that. Political dissent is crushed and the media is censored that's why the political situation is more peaceful. Not many people want to take a trip to the nearest military base and face a court martial. There is no political situation. There is no politics.

"When asked to comment on the strong and weak points of Thai politics at present, the respondents said the strength of Thai politics is the military government which has the absolute authority over decision-making"

Again, no $#it Sherlock.

"The weaknesses of Thai politics are disunity and corruption"

Will that be the disunity that doesn't exist because of the peaceful political situation?

"As for the role of politicians, most of the respondents observe that politicians have become much less influential due to the emergence of the National Council for Peace and Order"

At the risk of repeating myself, no $#it Sherlock.

What has this poll contributed to our knowledge? I would say the sum of <deleted> all.

[rametindallas]

The survey, which was conducted between March 16 and 21, discovered that the majority of respondents had a feeling that political conflicts within the country had noticeably subsided under the leadership of PM Prayut Chan-o-cha.

Martial Law, which I think necessary in the current climate, does have that effect. Since politics in Thailand is one of the dirtiest professions and politicians are vying with the police to see who can be most corrupt, I consider the absence of politics and politicians to be a welcome holiday that will end soon enough and everybody can go back to buying and being bought as before. In the meantime, it is very peaceful without Jatuporn and Nattawut making hate speeches and Chalerm predicting, with amazing accuracy, violent events. It's nice to see the police being forced to do their jobs or be embarrassed when the military does it for them. It is good that forests, which belong to the people, are being rid of influential encroachers (I wonder how that case of former DSI Director Tawit is coming). I'm happy the massive corruption of the last government has been finally stopped. I delighted that many Government Boards of Directors are being replaced with more competent directors other than the normal political appointees. It's a good thing that cashes of illegal weapons are being found and terrorists are being taken into custody. I was so pleased when the corrupt CIB chief, Pongpat, was brought to justice. I can't tell you how relieved I am that prosecutions of those involved in the Rice Support Scheme are finally coming to trial. I sleep much better at night knowing that Thaksin isn't. etc. etc. etc...

[chooka]

"The weaknesses of Thai politics are disunity and corruption"

With Thailand moving down 17 ranks in the corruption index after the Junta came to power lets hope it is not a weakness in the future.

​As for the poll. It may or may not be a true reflection of the majority, but they will happily dismiss this tangible result today while respecting an election result that has not happened yet. And when that election result shows the same trends that current polls do they will hold the majority in contempt again by stating "The election was rigged" whereby dismissing the wishes of the majority.

when prayuth orders that the results of all polls must be pro Junta I would say they are definately not true and all rubbish, lies and propaganda that some fools will eat.

[DM07]

Suck it up you "Doubting Dolts."

Unless YOU want to go out and conduct your own scientific survey, learn to live with the results of those who do take the trouble...or take a final trip to the nearest airport. Quite simple isn't it?

Oh...you are well educated political-analyst, I assume. Great job, well done!

[lucky11]

Do you call the rice scam that lost 600 billion baht innovation?

Maybe the clean up needs to serve the privileged as they are the clever people that make money for Thailand to subsidise the rice farmers (that cost everyone an arm and leg) in lost revenue. They, the elite, if you want to call them that, also supply a large amount of jobs for Thai's and they must be pretty good as it as Thailand has probably the lowest unemployment rate in the world.

Please tell me how the rice farmers benefit the country as I would be interested to know!!

One other thing, was putting someone who was not clever and with zero political experience in charge of the country for the sole reason to get her brother an amnesty a justified reason. These politicians have had more than a fair crack of the whip and have failed miserably in whatever they have done. Time to let the clever people engineer the way forward and if that means disqualifying the politicians then I'm all for it!!

Goodbye corruption and hello to a cleaner, better educated and honest people that actually know what they are doing.

"Please tell me how the rice farmers benefit the country as I would be interested to know!! "

They grow the food that people eat. It really is that simple. And you talk about Yingluck not being clever?

As growing rice is not profitable in Thailand (you agree with this)? then why don't they grow organic rice or other crops that are profitable and are not a drain on the finances.

Your 'clever' Yingluck cost Thailand 60 BILLION baht, I repeat, 60 BILLION baht from her hair-brained scheme that put Thailand's financial security in jeopardy!!

Most of the losses came from not being able to sell the rice through EXPORTING to other countries - now this is NOT feeding the Thai people, is it.

So growing rice (a majority for sale to other countries) cost the tax payers of Thailand the princely sum of 60 BILLION baht - hardly a sensible thing, is it!!

Why not grow other crops which grow in the climate depending on the region (zoning) and import the rice from Vietnam, India or wherever. Alternatively, get them (the rice farmers) to find new employment that doesn't suck money out of the financial coffers!!

I wouldn't mind so much if the farmers actually benefited from this but they clearly didn't (as all of the suicides prove).

Thank god that Prayuth is coming to the rescue and is creating a constitution that keeps the politicians in check by diluting their power and making it more difficult for a Northern based party to be elected. He has eliminated the Shinawatra's from politics which is the most important thing that he has done.

If PTT do get in somehow in an election and their are no Shinawatra's involved, plus the government will be so much more transparent and unable to commit corruption then they have my blessing. We will see how they perform under the new rules (no unaffordable populist policies to bribe the people with) and see how they do playing on a level playing field!!

[Fat Haggis]

You don't live in a rural farming community that's for sure !!

[ginjag]

"The weaknesses of Thai politics are disunity and corruption"

With Thailand moving down 17 ranks in the corruption index after the Junta came to power lets hope it is not a weakness in the future.

​As for the poll. It may or may not be a true reflection of the majority, but they will happily dismiss this tangible result today while respecting an election result that has not happened yet. And when that election result shows the same trends that current polls do they will hold the majority in contempt again by stating "The election was rigged" whereby dismissing the wishes of the majority.

when prayuth orders that the results of all polls must be pro Junta I would say they are definately not true and all rubbish, lies and propaganda that some fools will eat.

There are a few others that have been brainwashed into pro PTP regime stuff. What is your estimate of % of the countries pro PTP followers now ??? any answer ??? or are you sticking to the anti-Prayuth stance.