Lays chips GMO.?

[Rancid]

Was reading the US ones use GM potatoes cooked in GM oil and then ludicrously claim them to be natural.

Anyone know if the Thai version are made locally or an imported gene factory?

[HeijoshinCool]

Don't know.

But here's a true story:

Friend of mine goes to work for the FDA. In class, they discuss Lays Potato Chips, the way the bags are labeled NO PRESERVATIVES. Turns out it's true.

Sort of.

See, the FDA allows that labeling because the preservatives are not added to the chips. Yep, there are, in fact, preservatives in Lays potato chips - very unhealthy ones. But the preservative is sprayed on the inside of the bag, which is not an ingredient. Of course, it quickly migrates to the food.

Devious bastards. I wouldn't trust them if they claimed it was non-GMO.

[h90]

Don't know.

But here's a true story:

Friend of mine goes to work for the FDA. In class, they discuss Lays Potato Chips, the way the bags are labeled NO PRESERVATIVES. Turns out it's true.

Sort of.

See, the FDA allows that labeling because the preservatives are not added to the chips. Yep, there are, in fact, preservatives in Lays potato chips - very unhealthy ones. But the preservative is sprayed on the inside of the bag, which is not an ingredient. Of course, it quickly migrates to the food.

Devious bastards. I wouldn't trust them if they claimed it was non-GMO.

That is a great idea.....There are many ways of cheating, but I didn't know this one.

[NickJ]

Would there be any viable dna left in a deep fried chip to matter?

[ricklev]

I once attended a product meeting regarding Lays chips in Thailand. This was about ten years ago and at that time they were using Thai potatoes which are not GMO. I don't know about the oil.

I remember the brand manager from the USA opened a locally produced bag of chips, took a bite of one and then proclaimed to all, "That's a good chip!" and I was unable to stifle my burst of laughter at her absurd enthusiasm and the fact that I was sitting in that room.

Edited March 24, 2015 by ricklev

[h90]

Would there be any viable dna left in a deep fried chip to matter?

No.....But problem with GMO isn't the DNA (in my opinion). Problem is when you make it pesticide resistant that there might be too many pesticides on it. If you make the plant producing its own insecticides, they are in the plant. And you may have things no one think about at the moment.

I think the health risk from GMO minimal. Bigger problem are the crazy business ideas. Make the plant resistant to chemicals and spray them in amounts that everything else dies in that area and that you can't use that land for any other plants for years. Or let them produce their own insecticides which leads to resistances, as the plant may produce very little of them in some stages of growing giving the insects a chance to learn to handle it.

[papa al]

I once attended a product meeting regarding Lays chips in Thailand. This was about ten years ago and at that time they were using Thai potatoes which are not GMO. I don't know about the oil.

I remember the brand manager from the USA opened a locally produced bag of chips, took a bite of one and then proclaimed to all, "That's a good chip!" and I was unable to stifle my burst of laughter at her absurd enthusiasm and the fact that I was sitting in that room.

I don't get it.

Maybe the chip tasted good.

What does your sitting in the room have to do with it.

I'm confused by this post.

[NickJ]

Room is undelined......so it has to have something to do with that room.

[papa al]

Would there be any viable dna left in a deep fried chip to matter?

[most corn, soy, cottonseed oil is GM]

For such a complex molecule, DNA is surprisingly resilient to degradation by heat, age, desiccation, pH changes, etc.

So some of it might survive the flash frying,

the gastric acids in the stomach,

and eventually be taken up by bacterial biome of the gut,

(I think this has been demonstrated in the lab.)

but with poorly understood implications to health.

Of clear concern is the hydrogenated oils (trans-fats) used to cook the spud.

Those will ¿*#@! you up sure.

So no, probably doesn't matter, much.

[papa al]

Room is undelined......so it has to have something to do with that room.

Or, maybe there is room for the possibility that TV is party to an insidious marketing scheme.

[partington]

Would there be any viable dna left in a deep fried chip to matter?

[most corn, soy, cottonseed oil is GM]

For such a complex molecule, DNA is surprisingly resilient to degradation by heat, age, desiccation, pH changes, etc.

So some of it might survive the flash frying,

the gastric acids in the stomach,

and eventually be taken up by bacterial biome of the gut,

(I think this has been demonstrated in the lab.)

but with poorly understood implications to health.

Of clear concern is the hydrogenated oils (trans-fats) used to cook the spud.

Those will ¿*#@! you up sure.

So no, probably doesn't matter, much.

You do not need to worry about this. In the gut DNA is digested to very small fragments by digestive enzymes, including DNases, and any resulting fragments are too small to have any functional effects as genes.

The DNA from ALL the food you eat goes to the same place and is subject to the same digestion to fragments too small to retain any genetic function.

But if you are the sort of person who would worry about a fish gene being inserted into a tomato (to invent something - I don't think this has been done) , what about all the fish DNA in the red snapper you just ate? There's a lot more of that!

Edited March 25, 2015 by partington

[infinity11]

Lornz, brand name, chips are tasty and the label seems to indicate pure ingredients.

The problem with labeling depends on the country of origin and like the post states some things are not required to be listed depending on the amount and other factors.

The problem with thailand and imports is they often tag an impossible to remove sticker over the original label.

If one thing doesn't kill you another will.

[attrayant]

The current crop of GM potatoes use RNA interference technology to prevent the expression of undesired proteins that cause premature oxidation of the exposed flesh (i.e. brown spots). Manufacturers of highly processed foods like potato chips usually aren't too picky about using lesser-grade or unattractive potatoes, as these imperfections are easily sliced away or just aren't noticeable after processing.

You've got more to be worried about from acrylamide in ordinary, non GM potatoes. Acrylamide is an all-natural pesticide in the skin of regular, non-GM potatoes and which is a suspected carcinogen when exposed to high temperatures.