Thaivisa News Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Samut Sakhon: – The father of a 19-year-old suspect has begged for forgiveness from the family of 18-year-old man who was beaten and set on fire due to a lover’s quarrel. The victim, Kachorn Kitruekchai, was in coma for 84 days before he died of serious burn injuries. The father of the suspect said he would personally ensure his son’s punishment to the fullest extent of the law. Based on police report, two suspects, Patchara Thienchusak and Chantararak Lansin, 20, have been charged for assault causing death of Kachorn. The crime happened in December. Chatararak had an argument leading to the break-up with Kachorn. She later asked her ex-boyfriend Patchara to attack the victim giving him “a lesson”. She convinced the victim to travel from his home in Krathumban district to Kanchanaburi’s Sangkhlaburi district in order to sort out their problem. After the victim arrived at the remote meeting place, she assisted Patchara to beat him senseless before set him on fire. The two left the burning victim at the roadside. A passer-by alerted the rescue workers and police to put out the fire. The victim was hospitalised for months before his death. Patchara and Chantararak are being remanded pending the trial. After his arrest, Patchara told police he got carried away by rage while beating the victim. He said the victim had sexually violated Chantararak and refused to show responsibility. Chatararak said she wanted her “revenge”. The victim’s family has been holding the funeral at WatSuwanratanaram, Krathumban district. Patchara’s father Pairat attended the funeral last night. He said he was sorry for his son’s act of cruelty and that as a father he could empathise with the loss of the victim’s father and mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkkjames Posted March 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2015 Hope the judge gets carried away with rage when handing out the sentence. 36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jerojero Posted March 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2015 Set the victim on fire! No mercy. Father, you have a monster evil son. End of story. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasmus5150 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The father of the perpetrator attended the victims funeral!!!!!!....... Only in Thailand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangkokfrog Posted March 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2015 Set the victim on fire! No mercy. Father, you have a monster evil son. End of story. Yes, he has a monster son and the girl must also be a monster. But the part of this story that breaks my heart if true is this: A passer-by alerted the rescue workers and police to put out the fire. Are there no "Good Samaritans" left in the world. What difference might it have made had the passer-by tried to put out the fire. I guess the only positive thing is that he/she apparently didn't stop to make a video. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottocus Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Set the victim on fire! No mercy. Father, you have a monster evil son. End of story. Yes, he has a monster son and the girl must also be a monster. But the part of this story that breaks my heart if true is this: A passer-by alerted the rescue workers and police to put out the fire. Are there no "Good Samaritans" left in the world. What difference might it have made had the passer-by tried to put out the fire. I guess the only positive thing is that he/she apparently didn't stop to make a video. Maybe the passer-by didn't have a blanket or hose handy. Could have whipped the old fella I suppose but what do you do if you don't need a piss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geriatrickid Posted March 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2015 The father of the perpetrator attended the victims funeral!!!!!!....... Only in Thailand. It is the appropriate thing to do as it shows remorse, regret and shame. It also provides an opportunity for the victim family to heal and to achieve closure. In Thai culture, expressing one's remorse for a wrongful act and asking for forgiveness is an important part of the culture. Even I know that. Despite our criticisms of Thai "civility", this is remarkably civil and is very similar to the Jewish custom, and shared with post Reformation Christian interpretations, that one must apologize to the victim and to ask for forgiveness. In the west, as Christianity became dominated by the Roman Catholic practices of purchasing dispensations or of "confession", the original Christian practice of taking responsibility was abandoned. The Reformation brought back the concept of personal responsibility for some western cultures. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post off road pat Posted March 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) The father of the perpetrator attended the victims funeral!!!!!!....... Only in Thailand. No not only in Thailand...this happened in many countries....and several religions......Some fathers are so ashamed and feel partly responsible of the misdeeds of there children, and want to apologise ...!..they want to tell that this is not the way they brought up there son...something got wrong on the way... Needs a lot of courage to go apologise to the parents of the kid that was murder by your kid.....RESPECT..!! Edited March 25, 2015 by off road pat 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post off road pat Posted March 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2015 The father of the perpetrator attended the victims funeral!!!!!!....... Only in Thailand. It is the appropriate thing to do as it shows remorse, regret and shame. It also provides an opportunity for the victim family to heal and to achieve closure. In Thai culture, expressing one's remorse for a wrongful act and asking for forgiveness is an important part of the culture. Even I know that. Despite our criticisms of Thai "civility", this is remarkably civil and is very similar to the Jewish custom, and shared with post Reformation Christian interpretations, that one must apologize to the victim and to ask for forgiveness. In the west, as Christianity became dominated by the Roman Catholic practices of purchasing dispensations or of "confession", the original Christian practice of taking responsibility was abandoned. The Reformation brought back the concept of personal responsibility for some western cultures. So well said, much better than I could have said...!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevecm Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Set the victim on fire! No mercy. Father, you have a monster evil son. End of story. Yes, he has a monster son and the girl must also be a monster. But the part of this story that breaks my heart if true is this: A passer-by alerted the rescue workers and police to put out the fire. Are there no "Good Samaritans" left in the world. What difference might it have made had the passer-by tried to put out the fire. I guess the only positive thing is that he/she apparently didn't stop to make a video. Actually they did make a video, it went onto liveleak. Sure somebody can provide the gruesome link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted March 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2015 "The father of the suspect said he would personally ensure his son’s punishment to the fullest extent of the law." Not your job. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EyesWideOpen Posted March 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2015 The father of the perpetrator attended the victims funeral!!!!!!....... Only in Thailand. It is the appropriate thing to do as it shows remorse, regret and shame. It also provides an opportunity for the victim family to heal and to achieve closure. In Thai culture, expressing one's remorse for a wrongful act and asking for forgiveness is an important part of the culture. Even I know that. Despite our criticisms of Thai "civility", this is remarkably civil and is very similar to the Jewish custom, and shared with post Reformation Christian interpretations, that one must apologize to the victim and to ask for forgiveness. In the west, as Christianity became dominated by the Roman Catholic practices of purchasing dispensations or of "confession", the original Christian practice of taking responsibility was abandoned. The Reformation brought back the concept of personal responsibility for some western cultures. Still feels odd. Guess it really is true that east is east, west is west, and never the twain shall meet. If I was attending the funeral of my son who had been burned alive ( incidentally one of the most gruesome deaths) , and the father of the son who committed the murder was there, he would have to look really really remorseful to prevent me from attacking him as the person who created the monster that destroyed my child. But I guess the Thai way is to say you are sorry, knock out a few wais, pay some money, and move on with life. Well the murder can, clearly the guy who was murdered will not be moving on with his life.. Guess my upbringing was a bit more on the vengeful side. But the upside to that is that anyone who knows me would not mess with my family.... Also I guess this special Thai way is how the hiso Thais can routinely kill peasants with their high powered cars, fling a few baht to the family of the dead peasant, and get back to their pleasant life. So this system works great for them !!!!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Set the victim on fire! No mercy. Father, you have a monster evil son. End of story. Yes, he has a monster son and the girl must also be a monster. But the part of this story that breaks my heart if true is this: A passer-by alerted the rescue workers and police to put out the fire. Are there no "Good Samaritans" left in the world. What difference might it have made had the passer-by tried to put out the fire. I guess the only positive thing is that he/she apparently didn't stop to make a video. Actually they did make a video, it went onto liveleak. Sure somebody can provide the gruesome link. Please do not do that. Some things cannot be unseen.. I guess in a nation obsessed with selfies, it would make perfect sense to take a video of someone you just set on fire.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The father of the perpetrator attended the victims funeral!!!!!!....... Only in Thailand. ...and that is wrong, because....?! He came to apologize for what his son did, which to me seems like manning up for the horrible crime and begging forgiveness. If it was heartfelt -which I tend to believe- it is a great gesture! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The father of the perpetrator attended the victims funeral!!!!!!....... Only in Thailand. ...and that is wrong, because....?! He came to apologize for what his son did, which to me seems like manning up for the horrible crime and begging forgiveness. If it was heartfelt -which I tend to believe- it is a great gesture! Maybe the son should have been the one that begged forgiveness and said "punish me to the fullest extent of the law." I understand why the father did it. He's shamed by his son for the rest of his life. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 And how would the father punish his son ? Smack his bum for setting the victim on fire ? These Thai murderers actually believe their own BS to deliver revenge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
city Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Setting somebody on fire with petrol.... No thought of the consequences...Thainess to the ex ex extreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy50 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Set the victim on fire! No mercy. Father, you have a monster evil son. End of story. Yes, he has a monster son and the girl must also be a monster. But the part of this story that breaks my heart if true is this: A passer-by alerted the rescue workers and police to put out the fire. Are there no "Good Samaritans" left in the world. What difference might it have made had the passer-by tried to put out the fire. I guess the only positive thing is that he/she apparently didn't stop to make a video. Actually they did make a video, it went onto liveleak. Sure somebody can provide the gruesome link. Please do not do that. Some things cannot be unseen.. I guess in a nation obsessed with selfies, it would make perfect sense to take a video of someone you just set on fire.. These kinds of ghoulish videos are extremely popular here and are avidly shared on facebook etc. Just one example: 4 little kids were run down by a school director in his truck at a school near here last year. Within 2 hours of the accident, video of the young children's pathetic corpses were on the phones of most of the students and teachers at the school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The father of the perpetrator attended the victims funeral!!!!!!....... Only in Thailand. It is the appropriate thing to do as it shows remorse, regret and shame. It also provides an opportunity for the victim family to heal and to achieve closure. In Thai culture, expressing one's remorse for a wrongful act and asking for forgiveness is an important part of the culture. Even I know that. Despite our criticisms of Thai "civility", this is remarkably civil and is very similar to the Jewish custom, and shared with post Reformation Christian interpretations, that one must apologize to the victim and to ask for forgiveness. In the west, as Christianity became dominated by the Roman Catholic practices of purchasing dispensations or of "confession", the original Christian practice of taking responsibility was abandoned. The Reformation brought back the concept of personal responsibility for some western cultures. Many of the problems (both secular and non-secular) in Thailand stem from the fact that it is a very "pre-reformation" society/culture/political environment. Merit making and donations to the temple = "purchasing dispensations". And since when did "personal responsibility" catch on in Thailand? A few thousand "compo" and junior will be on his way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnie99 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 "The father of the suspect said he would personally ensure his son’s punishment to the fullest extent of the law." Not your job. Not only not his job but not within his power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lupatria Posted March 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2015 Some posters often asked on TV before: is this country ready for democracy? I wonder if this country will ever be ready for civilization and humanity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The father of the perpetrator attended the victims funeral!!!!!!....... Only in Thailand....and that is wrong, because....?!He came to apologize for what his son did, which to me seems like manning up for the horrible crime and begging forgiveness. If it was heartfelt -which I tend to believe- it is a great gesture! I don't think the issue is the attempted apology from the father, it is the attendance of the funeral which some find strange. To my mind, those who attend funerals should be those who loved the deceased who wish to say their goodbyes. One thing is for sure, were it my son's funeral, invitees would not include my son's murderer nor the murderer's family. You must be kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The father of the perpetrator attended the victims funeral!!!!!!....... Only in Thailand. Good opportunity to pass the envelope y'see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> "The father of the suspect said he would personally ensure his son’s punishment to the fullest extent of the law." Not your job. Agree. Ultimately that's why we have laws and why it's so important that there is a knowledgeable and duly assigned authority well versed in how and why laws are constructed, and well versed in how to prosecute (where appropriate), and why, for balance, another authority decides guilt and punishment. Edited March 25, 2015 by scorecard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ToddinChonburi Posted March 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2015 There was video of this after some people helped put the fire out, the kid was still walking around but to me you could see he was in shock. I hope they give these animals the death penalty, the pain this kid must have gone through. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The father of the perpetrator attended the victims funeral!!!!!!....... Only in Thailand....and that is wrong, because....?!He came to apologize for what his son did, which to me seems like manning up for the horrible crime and begging forgiveness. If it was heartfelt -which I tend to believe- it is a great gesture! I don't think the issue is the attempted apology from the father, it is the attendance of the funeral which some find strange. To my mind, those who attend funerals should be those who loved the deceased who wish to say their goodbyes.One thing is for sure, were it my son's funeral, invitees would not include my son's murderer nor the murderer's family. You must be kidding. No, I must not be kidding! Where does it say, he was invited? He showed up, to plead forgiveness (and maybe -as it happens in this weird country- pay some money to the family) and I find this to be some kind of honorable. I am not Thai and it is not my son, so I can not tell you, how I would feel about something like that. But the father didn't do anything bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Ingalls Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 "The father of the accused son promised to carry out his punishment" In this case I recommend the punishment be fire. Tie him to a stake, and set the straw on fire. The father has the option of dousing out the fire with a bucket of water nearby. But unknowingly the water is really 2 gallons of gasoline. NO mersey here! An eye for an eye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilymat Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Those two sound like the worst type of Bonny and Clyde. Yet, the OP appears to indicate they will not be charged with murder, but with assault leading to death, implying that they really didn't intend real harm, just teach him a lesson. It may be I cannot spot the difference. Whilst I have some sympathy with the father, to suggest he can meter out punishment is ludicrous. Yet he must believe this is a reasonable request. Very very sad for the victims family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issanaus Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The father of the perpetrator attended the victims funeral!!!!!!....... Only in Thailand. The parent of the perpetrator of a recent well publicised murder in Canberra (Australia) attended the funeral service for the victim. It is probably more common that you would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 "The father of the suspect said he would personally ensure his son’s punishment to the fullest extent of the law." Not your job. So he's gunna put done his son is he,don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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