webfact Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 NEW CONSTITUTIONPM wants world to accept the new charterTHE NATIONPM says he is not worried about Thai reaction but is unsure of international responseBANGKOK: -- THE NEW charter must be accepted by the international community, Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha said yesterday.After the Cabinet meeting yesterday at Government House, Prayut said he was not worried about domestic acceptance of the new constitution, but then asked what if the international community rejects it."If they [international community] won't accept it [the new charter], they will claim that our country has no democracy, similar to what they think about Article 44 under the interim charter. We use it to benefit the country, but they accuse us of coercing [people on this]," Prayut said.The PM said the government would invite legal specialists from Germany and France to share experiences about drafting their charters and how they manage after a coup. He spoke after a meeting of the five junta-appointed agencies."The NCPO has solved less than 30 per cent of the problems facing the country. We need the public to know how we can move forward and end divisions. We need public acceptance. That is why we need to look how foreign countries tackle their problems,'' Prayut said.The PM also insisted the new charter is not drafted to benefit any political party in particular, saying the importance of the Constitution was to create a learning process for people both domestically and internationally on how the new charter is different from previous ones and for what reasons.Meanwhile, Prayut cast doubt on people's level of understanding of the new constitution and democracy itself."I want people to ask how they could cooperate, but no one asks such questions. They only ask when there will be an election," the PM said.Nonetheless, General Prayut put the question back to the public, saying there have been calls for an election as soon as possible but one must ask: "Does Thailand today need reforming? If not and you request an election to be held now - just tell me so I can take a rest."He said the new constitution should focus on national reform to prevent corruption and have better checks and balances, since scrutiny to prevent people doing wrong was not clear.Asked whether the government will help people understand the constitution and the process of how it came to its final draft, Prayut replied the government was still discussing this matter."Sometimes people do not understand this matter clearly, they only understand that democracy is having an election and give full freedom and authority to the people, but no-one asks for the people's role."I want people to question their duties on how they can cooperate with the government," he added.The PM was also asked whether the government is considering holding a referendum on the new charter, but Prayut now was not the time to consider that issue.Meanwhile, an official said the government was keeping to a schedule that includes an election in early 2016."We are committed to the road map where an election will happen after the new constitution is put in place," NCPO spokesman Colonel Winthai Suvari said.He said the constitution was due to be completed later this year, but he refused to comment on statements by other officials that the junta could stay in power longer, if necessary.That statement came after Prayut reportedly visited a famous astrologer, who said he should stay in power for three more years.But Prayut has reportedly told the fortune-teller to stop predicting his future. He insisted that he will follow the road map to restore democracy and hold an election next year.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/PM-wants-world-to-accept-the-new-charter-30257642.html-- The Nation 2015-04-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post noitom Posted April 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2015 Thais are not taken seriously. It is what it is. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chooka Posted April 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2015 "The new charter must be accepted by the international community" If they don't accept it and tow the Junta's line, what are you going to do. Prayuth can't treat the International community like he treats the suppressed Thais. The international community are still allowed to think, analyse and form thier own opinions. The compulsory brainwashing and propoganda doesn't work and never will on the free. 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted April 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2015 The new charter MUST be accepted by the international community ! Sorry PM it doesn't it work like that. You aren't worried about Thais' reaction because you can bully them but the rest of the world is a different story and your bluster won't help. Don't expect the international community to fall in line just because you expect it. 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rod Wallop Posted April 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2015 I simply can't respect and man that dyes his hair and wears a women's blouse 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted April 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2015 I can imagine the potential answers from all shades of opinion to my question " does the PM actually believe that he and the country are so important and relevant in the grand scheme of things ? " He lives in his own world it seems and is nothing more than a self appointed big fish in a very small pond. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brucec64 Posted April 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2015 "Prayut said he was not worried about domestic acceptance of the new constitution" Simply because they will not have a say in the matter. The lack of domestic acceptance will only be seen in a few years when, unfortunately, the biased constituion causes the endless cycle of protests and violence to start up once again. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jerojero Posted April 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2015 Ha ha.... Must be accepted. The arrogance of this leader continues. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T_Dog Posted April 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2015 "The PM said the government would invite legal specialists from Germany and France to share experiences about drafting their charters and how they manage after a coup. He spoke after a meeting of the five junta-appointed agencies." Interesting choice of countries that have had coup experience. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lewy67 Posted April 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2015 The PM said the government would invite legal specialists from Germany and France to share experiences about drafting their charters and how they manage after a coup. What is this imbecile on about? He may have to get a decent clairvoyant involved in this discussion. Maybe his astrologer mate from Chiang Mai knows one 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> "The new charter must be accepted by the international community"If they don't accept it and tow the Junta's line, what are you going to do. Prayuth can't treat the International community like he treats the suppressed Thais. The international community are still allowed to think, analyse and form thier own opinions. The compulsory brainwashing and propoganda doesn't work and never will on the free. They are? Where? LMAO The corporations own everyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Ha ha.... Must be accepted. The arrogance of this leader continues. Fortunately, we have the arrogance of farangs on TVF to fall back on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post greenchair Posted April 8, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2015 I raise my right hand and assure the public and the international community. The draft charter is not in favour of any political party. Trust us. We need public acceptance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jamesjohnsonthird Posted April 8, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2015 Trust me.....and thats an order! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bobmac10 Posted April 8, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2015 Prime Minister (coup leader and self appointed) says the world must accept the new charter (written by his appointees) , says it all really. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pnustedt Posted April 8, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2015 If France and/or Germany had suffered a military coup then the leader of the coup would be tried for treason and democracy would be restored. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Big boss fails to realize that the international community and its spinners can make a country a pariah if they wish too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) If France and/or Germany had suffered a military coup then the leader of the coup would be tried for treason and democracy would be restored.With the mods' permission, France's neighbour Spain:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Tejero Edited April 8, 2015 by baboon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jim walker Posted April 8, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2015 PM he was not worried about domestic acceptance of a / the new constitution, because he doesnt care about the electorate / citizens of Thailand and the world leaders and diplomats will be queuing up to reject it also, what country wants a few high ranking soldiers to run and rob a country any time they think suits them, what world does he live in, where peoples opinions dont count I think he spends too much time watching North Korea TV. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangFerang Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Ok--I'll take you at your word Mr. PM -- "What can TVF members do to cooperate?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWMcMurray Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I have mixed feelings... Sure it's worrying about the power that article 44 allows, but that same power also allows for all of the red tape and bureaucracy to be side stepped in order to make meaningful changes in months rather than years or decades... I look at many western countries and see that the road to 'meaningful democracy' was paved with Violent revolutions, civil wars, protests and uprisings.... And to be honest, if you asked me about a year ago, seemed this was the path that Thailand was heading as well. So while I do not look through any rose tinted glasses and while I do look at article 44 with some trepidation and fear as to how it could be abused... I also do have some amount of hope that it could allow for real changes in Thailand government and institutions that could greatly benefit Thai society and democracy in the long term. So it will all come down to how things play out and how it is used, but personally I am willing to wait and see before I make any final judgements. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vogele123 Posted April 8, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) "The PM said the government would invite legal specialists from Germany and France to share experiences about drafting their charters and how they manage after a coup." The guy is an absolute lunatic! I am sure France and Germany will be happy to explain what they do after a coup! I mean they have so much more experience than Thailand. Thailand, the Hub of Coups! Lin Ping strikes again. Edited April 8, 2015 by Vogele123 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesjohnsonthird Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I have mixed feelings... Sure it's worrying about the power that article 44 allows, but that same power also allows for all of the red tape and bureaucracy to be side stepped in order to make meaningful changes in months rather than years or decades... I look at many western countries and see that the road to 'meaningful democracy' was paved with Violent revolutions, civil wars, protests and uprisings.... And to be honest, if you asked me about a year ago, seemed this was the path that Thailand was heading as well. So while I do not look through any rose tinted glasses and while I do look at article 44 with some trepidation and fear as to how it could be abused... I also do have some amount of hope that it could allow for real changes in Thailand government and institutions that could greatly benefit Thai society and democracy in the long term. So it will all come down to how things play out and how it is used, but personally I am willing to wait and see before I make any final judgements. Spoken like a good little North Korean. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oneday Posted April 8, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2015 "...If they [international community] won't accept it [the new charter], they will claim that our country has no democracy, similar to what they think about Article 44 under the interim charter..." ...lives in a fantasy world...he really thinks all Thais are with him. Article 44 is 100% anti-Democratic. I also see the Charter as shaping up to be skewed towards keeping the Bangkok elite in office and all others either can't or won't be able to compete. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DM07 Posted April 8, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2015 And I want a diamond-shitting pony for Christmas! Is it wish time again? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted April 8, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2015 "I want people to question their duties on how they can cooperate with the government," Ask not what your government can do for you, ask what you can do for your government... Sorry JFK... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshstiles Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Oh of course Alice.....you can have anything you want here in Wonderland....just say it and it is yours you sweet rollie-pollie duffus love the hat cowgirl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 "I want people to question their duties on how they can cooperate with the government," Ask not what your government can do for you, ask what you can do for your government... Sorry JFK... Ehem, Ehem... It is COUNTRY (Not Government). Ask not what your COUNTRY can do for you. That statement was devoid of political color as a Government - in the USA could either be Republican or Democrat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveyinasia Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Sorry Mr PM, the international community does not have to accept it, they may have to live around it however they don't "have to" accept it. Just as Thailand does not accept the findings of the international aviation body, until it became a big problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccarty Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Wait a minute, this is not taking the ASEAN party leaders political line of complaining bitterly about outsiders trying to get involved in internal affairs...in fact, it's the opposite. This Khun Pryuth could be on to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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