Yingluck says she will appear at Supreme Court next week to prove her innocence

[Jim walker]

And she will be appearing in a court full of corrupt officials from the military side of the junta government, best of luck to her and keep smiling dear.

[rixalex]

I feel sorry for her. The whole system is loaded against her - corrupt to the core and I don't mean Yingluck.

60 odd million people in Thailand. Good percentage of those living on the bread line and below. Surely amongst those a few more deserving of sympathy than a woman who was handed untold wealth by her brother to act as figurehead for his various corrupt ventures and activities, and who is now having to answer for that, but with zero chance of ever actually having to take any sort of punishment, as she'll either do some sort of a deal with the powers that be, or simply flee to live in luxury somewhere else.

Get the facts straight. I get tired of the constant talk of her "untold wealth" by individuals who don't do their homework. Her estimated wealth was about 17 million USD when she entered office. When she stepped down from office her wealth had increased by about 1 million USD. Most of her assets are in stocks. Her son and husband have about 1 1/2 million USD in addition. Oh, I forgot the expensive watch she forgot to include in her assets. If you think that is untold wealth you are barking up the wrong tree. She also has millions in liabilities. Sure that is a good deal of money compared to the average Thai but it is NOT untold wealth. She is probably earning abut $300,000 to $400,000 per year off of her investments if she is lucky. Seems like many TV posters dislike her more for her wealth and connection to her brother than anything else. Read her bio sometime. She did not start at the top of her brothers companies but worked her way up. Sure she had the connections and surely was promoted based on the connections but she was not just handed a CEO position. Give her some credit. She is not as stupid as people seem to think. Let's face it, it's the wealth the bothers so many people here.

Putting aside the fact that declared assets, and actual assets, are quite often world's apart (just ask Thaksin's accountant), her declared assets alone, do in my book, constitute 'untold wealth'. I'm sure the vast majority of Thais would agree with that description.

[cookee68]

She will appear, then blah blah blah we all know the rest, and 5 years later still blah blah blah

[wowfactor10]

Well what i know is this

These people always winning with elections and then looses always in court.

I predict history will repeat its self and so she will loose in court..

Thainess.

[djjamie]

Typical shinawatra. Neck deep in FACTS proving her guilt yet uses the UDD / PTP magical "abra kadabra" belief structure to try to slide out of that guilt while the gullible and weak-minded dismiss and ignore the facts and fall for it. She is the type of women that, if the Titanic was built by thakisn and started sinking would try to convince the majority the ocean was rising instead of the ship sinking while disputing all the FACTS and logic showing otherwise. Of course the red apologists would be like those bobble heads that sit on dashes of cars and move up and down in agreement every time the car goes over a bump!

Very apt that Yaowapa Wongsawat is in the photo. Not only was she suspended for 5 years for her undemocratic tendencies (yes, yes it was all a conspiracy) when she was reinstated she was going to stand in and answer difficult questions on behalf of the "puppet" who was a proxy of the unelected criminal fugitive leader. Why? The questions were too difficult for her….

Thank god for reform and a road to the return to democracy. Yes, yes, yingluck was elected!!! 555. I am 1/15th Irish too, but don't drink Guinness.

Lets hope she moves to Dubai and gets a diplomatic passport!

Edited May 15, 2015 by djjamie

[wow64]

Good luck YS the majority of Thailand electorate is rooting for you.

[namatjira]

Let's be honest , If stupidity was an Olympic sport Thailand would win the gold silver and bronze, in fact they might make a special category, platinum, given the whole country is going to be wearing gold medals Thailand itself would sink with the sheer weight of them all, yingluck is surely a platinum winner, but hey, because she looks good I wish her well.

She just should have thought a little more on her brothers policies...that amount of money getting blown away someone has to be responsible, and it was on her watch as they say

Edited May 15, 2015 by namatjira

[djjamie]

Good luck YS the majority of Thailand electorate is rooting for you.

Would you be using the "All the Thai people I know" defense to back your statement or do you have facts to back it up. Nope? I can gaunrentee you have no facts, no graphs, no tangible evidence to back your statement up except a belief that it is true. Jatuporn wants you to hold on to that belief. ISIS foster the belief that paradise will befall those that travel to Syria to.

Facts to back it up have unfortunately not been witnessed since the UDD threatened the farmers with violence if they protested. Before that facts showed the majority were behind them. I cannot deny those facts, because they were facts. Not beliefs.

Every heard of Newtons Third Law? "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction".

Threatening your supporter base with violence and physical threats towards family members if they protest against the PTP does not foster a love for the party you purport the majority respect.

Would you vote for the party whose 7% hardcore supporter base threatened your family with death if you asked the government for what they promised you 6 times yet never delivered on? (before the PDRC started protesting)

No, neither would I...

Edited May 15, 2015 by djjamie

[rametindallas]

She certainly has more testicular fortitude than her brother Thaksin.

Frankly I wish her the best of ying, because she is up against a stacked deck. And ,no I am not a YS fan.

If she really had any 'testicular fortitude', she would throw her older brother under the bus and testify in court how he controlled her every political move when she was PM. The court would understand because she is 'Nong' and cannot refuse older sibling.

[mikemac]

History will treat her much more kindly than many TVF posters and she is still widely loved by many who see her as a victim

Because people like this do not know any better---but YES and M.Thatcher was loved by many---BUT she had to go---understand that ??

do YOU understand that Thatcher was VOTED out? by a little thing called democracy??? whereas Yingluck was the subject of a military coup - understand that ???

And another one comes on and posts the Shin lie. Yingluck dissolved parliament, and was subsequently removed from the caretaker PM role by a court for abuse of power and nepotism.

She has never been removed from office by a military coup - no matter how many times the Shin fan club repeat that lie, it will never be true.

Do you understand that knowingly and deliberately posting lies is against forum rules?

Patiently waiting for LannaGuy to come back and prove his comment is correct. (sarc)

Should be good !

[Lite Beer]

RICE-PLEDGING SCHEME
Yingluck ready to defend herself in court
THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- FORMER prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra said yesterday she would attend the first hearing at the Supreme Court's Criminal Division on Holders of Political Positions on Tuesday for a case in which she is accused of negligence in connection with her government's controversial rice-pledging scheme.

Yingluck said she was ready to defend herself in her opening statement before the court.

She was speaking to reporters at her sister Yaowapa Wongsawat's birthday party at the latter's home in Chaeng Wattana area north of Bangkok. Yaowapa was also a key figure in the then-ruling Pheu Thai Party.

In March, the court accepted the case against Yingluck and declared that she would have to stand trial.

Yingluck is charged with dereliction of duty and abuse of authority as well as violating the Criminal Code and the Anti-Corruption Act.

She is accused of failing to prevent corruption in the rice-pledging scheme, which resulted in estimated losses of over Bt500 billion to the state. If found guilty, she could face up to 10 years in jail.

She is required to appear in court on the first day of hearing, when the court will decide if she will be granted bail.

On Thursday, a subcommittee of the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC), which took the case to court, resolved to bring charges against Yingluck and 33 of her former Cabinet members for misconduct and abuse of power in relation to her government paying compensation to red-shirt protesters and supporters.

Yingluck and the 33 others were informed in writing of the NACC's allegations and have 15 days to respond, Vicha Mahakhun, head of the panel responsible for the case, said.

Red-shirt compensation queried

During Yingluck's tenure, some Bt2 billion was paid in compensation to protesters who were injured and relatives of those who died during protests held between 2005 and 2010.

Asked to comment on these allegations yesterday, Yingluck said it was not the right time - as she wants things to be carried out in line with required process.

"Today is an auspicious day and I don't want to discuss the details of this case," she said.

Vicha said there was no law to back the disbursement of payouts as approved by Yingluck's cabinet. There was also a conflict of interest in her government's approval of the payments because the recipients were the main supporters of her political party.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Yingluck-ready-to-defend-herself-in-court-30260236.html

-- The Nation 2015-05-16

[mickjn]

I feel sorry for her. The whole system is loaded against her - corrupt to the core and I don't mean Yingluck.

60 odd million people in Thailand. Good percentage of those living on the bread line and below. Surely amongst those a few more deserving of sympathy than a woman who was handed untold wealth by her brother to act as figurehead for his various corrupt ventures and activities, and who is now having to answer for that, but with zero chance of ever actually having to take any sort of punishment, as she'll either do some sort of a deal with the powers that be, or simply flee to live in luxury somewhere else.

Get the facts straight. I get tired of the constant talk of her "untold wealth" by individuals who don't do their homework. Her estimated wealth was about 17 million USD when she entered office. When she stepped down from office her wealth had increased by about 1 million USD. Most of her assets are in stocks. Her son and husband have about 1 1/2 million USD in addition. Oh, I forgot the expensive watch she forgot to include in her assets. If you think that is untold wealth you are barking up the wrong tree. She also has millions in liabilities. Sure that is a good deal of money compared to the average Thai but it is NOT untold wealth. She is probably earning abut $300,000 to $400,000 per year off of her investments if she is lucky. Seems like many TV posters dislike her more for her wealth and connection to her brother than anything else. Read her bio sometime. She did not start at the top of her brothers companies but worked her way up. Sure she had the connections and surely was promoted based on the connections but she was not just handed a CEO position. Give her some credit. She is not as stupid as people seem to think. Let's face it, it's the wealth the bothers so many people here.

If she is only earning that much something is very wrong she should be earning a lot more

[wow64]

Good luck YS the majority of Thailand electorate is rooting for you.

Would you be using the "All the Thai people I know" defense to back your statement or do you have facts to back it up. Nope? I can gaunrentee you have no facts, no graphs, no tangible evidence to back your statement up except a belief that it is true. Jatuporn wants you to hold on to that belief. ISIS foster the belief that paradise will befall those that travel to Syria to.

Facts to back it up have unfortunately not been witnessed since the UDD threatened the farmers with violence if they protested. Before that facts showed the majority were behind them. I cannot deny those facts, because they were facts. Not beliefs.

Every heard of Newtons Third Law? "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction".

Threatening your supporter base with violence and physical threats towards family members if they protest against the PTP does not foster a love for the party you purport the majority respect.

Would you vote for the party whose 7% hardcore supporter base threatened your family with death if you asked the government for what they promised you 6 times yet never delivered on? (before the PDRC started protesting)

No, neither would I...

What the hell are you craping on about newtons law.. Does it also affect elections does it.. I wish I knew that in my physics classes.

If she was in an election tomorrow she would win... Just like the last election she ran in.. Outside of BKK there are many who love her. Also in BKK there is strong support for her.

Sent from my c64

[mikemac]

From post #102 -

............."There was also a conflict of interest in her government's approval of the payments because the recipients were the main supporters of her political party."..................

Sounds about right. The current government would probably do the same, as would any other government that has run the country in the past. As would any Thai, probably, if they had half the chance. (It's called human nature and we all suffer from it.)

As would a lot of us honest and upstanding foreigners as well, but what we would do does not matter.

[LannaGuy]

History will treat her much more kindly than many TVF posters and she is still widely loved by many who see her as a victim

Because people like this do not know any better---but YES and M.Thatcher was loved by many---BUT she had to go---understand that ??

do YOU understand that Thatcher was VOTED out? by a little thing called democracy??? whereas Yingluck was the subject of a military coup - understand that ???

And another one comes on and posts the Shin lie. Yingluck dissolved parliament, and was subsequently removed from the caretaker PM role by a court for abuse of power and nepotism.

She has never been removed from office by a military coup - no matter how many times the Shin fan club repeat that lie, it will never be true.

Do you understand that knowingly and deliberately posting lies is against forum rules?

it will always be true but you will never see it - did you know attacking posters personally is against forum rules? tackle the argument not the poster but that's beyond you I know

[LannaGuy]

Good luck YS the majority of Thailand electorate is rooting for you.

Would you be using the "All the Thai people I know" defense to back your statement or do you have facts to back it up. Nope? I can gaunrentee you have no facts, no graphs, no tangible evidence to back your statement up except a belief that it is true. Jatuporn wants you to hold on to that belief. ISIS foster the belief that paradise will befall those that travel to Syria to.

Facts to back it up have unfortunately not been witnessed since the UDD threatened the farmers with violence if they protested. Before that facts showed the majority were behind them. I cannot deny those facts, because they were facts. Not beliefs.

Every heard of Newtons Third Law? "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction".

Threatening your supporter base with violence and physical threats towards family members if they protest against the PTP does not foster a love for the party you purport the majority respect.

Would you vote for the party whose 7% hardcore supporter base threatened your family with death if you asked the government for what they promised you 6 times yet never delivered on? (before the PDRC started protesting)

No, neither would I...

but you ignore all the yellow violence 'facts'? how convenient but an election would solve your distrust that the majority still don't support the yellow Dems. You don't want an election (a free one not rigged) because you and your Junta would LOSE again

[jaiyen]

I love it when ever Yingluck is in the news lots of ex pats have to compose ridiculous posts about people who love her, she will win the next election, she is just a muppet etc etc. Most of you know sweet FA about Thai politics and corruption methods which dont ever affect your personal lives but you love to write crap about the farcical ways of Thai goverment. They dont know what they are doing so how the hell can you ???????

[Chwooly]

What happened to the Presumption on Innocents until proven Guilty in a court of law applying rules of evidence.

that was dead the day after it was written. Just look at the western media on any day and see how many people are publicly humiliated and lager found to be innocent. But while the arrest was front page news the innocent verdict is some where in the back where no-one reads it.

[seedy]

one post disrespectful of Thai people removed

11) You will not post slurs, degrading or overly negative comments directed towards Thailand, specific
locations, Thai institutions such as the judicial or law enforcement system, Thai culture, Thai people or
any other group on the basis of race, nationality, religion, gender or sexual orientation.

[Halion]

Good luck YS the majority of Thailand electorate is rooting for you.

Would you be using the "All the Thai people I know" defense to back your statement or do you have facts to back it up. Nope? I can gaunrentee you have no facts, no graphs, no tangible evidence to back your statement up except a belief that it is true. Jatuporn wants you to hold on to that belief. ISIS foster the belief that paradise will befall those that travel to Syria to.

Facts to back it up have unfortunately not been witnessed since the UDD threatened the farmers with violence if they protested. Before that facts showed the majority were behind them. I cannot deny those facts, because they were facts. Not beliefs.

Every heard of Newtons Third Law? "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction".

Threatening your supporter base with violence and physical threats towards family members if they protest against the PTP does not foster a love for the party you purport the majority respect.

Would you vote for the party whose 7% hardcore supporter base threatened your family with death if you asked the government for what they promised you 6 times yet never delivered on? (before the PDRC started protesting)

No, neither would I...

What the hell are you craping on about newtons law.. Does it also affect elections does it.. I wish I knew that in my physics classes.

If she was in an election tomorrow she would win... Just like the last election she ran in.. Outside of BKK there are many who love her. Also in BKK there is strong support for her.

Sent from my c64

Sadly you are probably correct which only goes to prove how dumb the voting public are in this country.

She and her family have plundered this nation through greed and malfeasance whilst claiming their undying concern for their Thai brothers and sisters, who quite frankly they do not give a shit about.

The facts speak for themselves, providing you can think for yourself.

[MILT]

Get the facts straight. I get tired of the constant talk of her "untold wealth" by individuals who don't do their homework. Her estimated wealth was about 17 million USD when she entered office. When she stepped down from office her wealth had increased by about 1 million USD. Most of her assets are in stocks. Her son and husband have about 1 1/2 million USD in addition. Oh, I forgot the expensive watch she forgot to include in her assets. If you think that is untold wealth you are barking up the wrong tree. She also has millions in liabilities. Sure that is a good deal of money compared to the average Thai but it is NOT untold wealth. She is probably earning abut $300,000 to $400,000 per year off of her investments if she is lucky. Seems like many TV posters dislike her more for her wealth and connection to her brother than anything else. Read her bio sometime. She did not start at the top of her brothers companies but worked her way up. Sure she had the connections and surely was promoted based on the connections but she was not just handed a CEO position. Give her some credit. She is not as stupid as people seem to think. Let's face it, it's the wealth the bothers so many people here.

Her wealth doesn't bother as much as my own wealth does...

[FreddieJ2]

She scrubs up very nicely for someone pushing 50.

Yaowapha doesn't have that many admirers so I'm sure she appreciates your effort.

[FreddieJ2]

Why does she have to prove her innocence?

Isn't it rather the prosecutor's duty to prove she's guilty?

You need to lower your literary expectations of sensible writing or you'll be posting the same on nearly every news thread..

[FreddieJ2]

All I know is she is one of l the most indefinably sexy ladies I have ever seen, I love her

One can wonder if sexism was behind the charges and coup , number

nineteen, is it legal for an illegal government to try somebody ?

everyone misses the main point here, whatever happens , love is

what is real, and that will go into the infinite spirit world with me

Sounds like you've had plenty of spirits already.

[FreddieJ2]

60 odd million people in Thailand. Good percentage of those living on the bread line and below. Surely amongst those a few more deserving of sympathy than a woman who was handed untold wealth by her brother to act as figurehead for his various corrupt ventures and activities, and who is now having to answer for that, but with zero chance of ever actually having to take any sort of punishment, as she'll either do some sort of a deal with the powers that be, or simply flee to live in luxury somewhere else.

Get the facts straight. I get tired of the constant talk of her "untold wealth" by individuals who don't do their homework. Her estimated wealth was about 17 million USD when she entered office.

Sticking to the facts, when she claimed 17 million USD, what happened to the 31 million USD she made just a few years prior from the sale of Shin Corp?

When the family sold its flagship Shin Corp. to Singapore’s Temasek Holdings Pte for 73 billion baht ($2.4 billion) in 2006, Yingluck netted 985 million baht.

Bloomberg BusinessWeek - June 16, 2011

http://www.businessw...-investors.html

[scorecard]

I feel sorry for her. The whole system is loaded against her - corrupt to the core and I don't mean Yingluck.

60 odd million people in Thailand. Good percentage of those living on the bread line and below. Surely amongst those a few more deserving of sympathy than a woman who was handed untold wealth by her brother to act as figurehead for his various corrupt ventures and activities, and who is now having to answer for that, but with zero chance of ever actually having to take any sort of punishment, as she'll either do some sort of a deal with the powers that be, or simply flee to live in luxury somewhere else.

Get the facts straight. I get tired of the constant talk of her "untold wealth" by individuals who don't do their homework. Her estimated wealth was about 17 million USD when she entered office. When she stepped down from office her wealth had increased by about 1 million USD. Most of her assets are in stocks. Her son and husband have about 1 1/2 million USD in addition. Oh, I forgot the expensive watch she forgot to include in her assets. If you think that is untold wealth you are barking up the wrong tree. She also has millions in liabilities. Sure that is a good deal of money compared to the average Thai but it is NOT untold wealth. She is probably earning abut $300,000 to $400,000 per year off of her investments if she is lucky. Seems like many TV posters dislike her more for her wealth and connection to her brother than anything else. Read her bio sometime. She did not start at the top of her brothers companies but worked her way up. Sure she had the connections and surely was promoted based on the connections but she was not just handed a CEO position. Give her some credit. She is not as stupid as people seem to think. Let's face it, it's the wealth the bothers so many people here.

If she is only earning that much something is very wrong she should be earning a lot more

Actually her personal wealth is not the subject of the case coming up soon.

But as a different subject, she along with every politician should be scrutinized if there is any suspicion as all in regards to where her / their wealth came from.

[ginjag]

What happened to the Presumption on Innocents until proven Guilty in a court of law applying rules of evidence.

Don't be silly, this is Thai Visa!

It's OK---a big 5% on Thai visa feel sorry for her---Quote her saying "I did nothing wrong"........we know there are countless others from both sides of the fence that did wrong----but why are you in denial all the time--------face reality for once.

I speak as one of 5%.(?)

So your meticulous monitoring of our posts ( of which you have boasted more than once) leads you to believe that we feel sorry for her, and are "in denial" and need to face reality for once".

I don't feel sorry for her, I respect the fact that she was the popular choice (not on this forum obviously) but of the Thai electorate. I admire the way in which she dealt with the PDRC s attempts to bring down her government, and far from being a political naif I think she is facing the impending show trial with great courage.

As far as "denial" and " facing reality" are concerned, well if reality is represented by your paranoid rants and obsessive monitoring of other people's opinions, I'll stick with denial if it's all the same with you.

No problem --you stick with the 5% on here and you well know the facts, Monitoring of OUR posts

WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. I merely put the view across that Thailand is far better off NOW than it was under the Shin regime. History about Army--Abhisit etc are irrelevant.

Facts are facts about total mismanagement after being elected. Bringing the country to it's knees.

This is what my observations are. Your insults are not a one off here on TVF.

She needs more than courage at the trial-------and she never did anything worthwhile apart from being a party to corrupt government--especially the rice job and the amnesty job---feel free to support her in her hour of need, suppose you feel sorry for her brother --all his problems were politically motivated--like his sister now ???

[ginjag]

And another one comes on and posts the Shin lie. Yingluck dissolved parliament, and was subsequently removed from the caretaker PM role by a court for abuse of power and nepotism.

She has never been removed from office by a military coup - no matter how many times the Shin fan club repeat that lie, it will never be true.

Do you understand that knowingly and deliberately posting lies is against forum rules?

it will always be true but you will never see it - did you know attacking posters personally is against forum rules? tackle the argument not the poster but that's beyond you I know

LannaGuy-------You are wrong---Thatcher became a control freak---she was not voted out -democratically---she was removed by her own party.

Yingluck could not be removed by her own party because her brother controlled it---get a life and better facts.

[jaidam]

60 odd million people in Thailand. Good percentage of those living on the bread line and below. Surely amongst those a few more deserving of sympathy than a woman who was handed untold wealth by her brother to act as figurehead for his various corrupt ventures and activities, and who is now having to answer for that, but with zero chance of ever actually having to take any sort of punishment, as she'll either do some sort of a deal with the powers that be, or simply flee to live in luxury somewhere else.

Get the facts straight. I get tired of the constant talk of her "untold wealth" by individuals who don't do their homework. Her estimated wealth was about 17 million USD when she entered office.

Sticking to the facts, when she claimed 17 million USD, what happened to the 31 million USD she made just a few years prior from the sale of Shin Corp?

When the family sold its flagship Shin Corp. to Singapore’s Temasek Holdings Pte for 73 billion baht ($2.4 billion) in 2006, Yingluck netted 985 million baht.

Bloomberg BusinessWeek - June 16, 2011

http://www.businessw...-investors.html

It beggars belief that there are still farangs out there that lap up every word a Shinawatra utters and profess the lies to be true. For the record the Shinawatra clan are compulsive liars. Every time somebody parrots a Shinawatra statement and claims it to be the truth, they will have just made a fool out of themselves. Yingluck's assets at 17 million US dollars is a total joke. Look into the clans illegal offshore wealth. Ample rich and Winmark should be a safe place to start your google search.

[ginjag]

History will treat her much more kindly than many TVF posters and she is still widely loved by many who see her as a victim

Because people like this do not know any better---but YES and M.Thatcher was loved by many---BUT she had to go---understand that ??

do YOU understand that Thatcher was VOTED out? by a little thing called democracy??? whereas Yingluck was the subject of a military coup - understand that ???

Do you understand you are totally wrong---The tories removed her,-----The coup did not remove Yingluck--------who told you this B/S, as you believed a lie.