Bignose Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I really don't care if it takes 500 police to carry out a raid, if these establishments are operating illegally then they should be closed down. Yes there will be other venue's operating illegally but do you expect them all to be closed down on the same evening? In a perfect world the answer would be yes but we're not in a perfect world are we? These venue's (and many more like them) have been operating for years with the full knowledge, permission and collusion of some well placed and powerful people. The tide may be turning but it will not be an easy or quick fix, lets show some patience and appreciation for the progress that is being made. If we still had the previous administration do you think any of this would have happened? Funny how all the curtain twitchers call for enforcement of the law when the consequences won't affect them. How many of these puritans take advantage of corruption when it benefits them? A 500 baht note makes a potential DUI disappear, a nod, a wink and a 100 baht premium lets you buy that bottle of gin at 2.30am and the bribe to the local cops means you can take that little cutie with the silicone headlights upstairs on the premises for some bedroom antics. Hypocrisy is sickening For the life of me I can't see where you can find any hypocrisy in my original post, I think the hypocrisy you see has more to do with the alcohol or other mind altering substances you have inflicted on your body. In my humble opinion once these venue's are regulated and controlled you will see several things happen, improved service for their clients as in less "padding" of bills, the use of the correct and undiluted branded drinks, improved and safer facilities etc, etc... For the local workers I believe it would cut back on exploitation and the abuse inflicted on the most vulnerable etc, etc... In my experience in Europe there is no need for restrictive licensing hours, bars and clubs should (when they are situated away from residential area's) be allowed to open when they want. I have found that market forces will dictate whether they remain open in competition to other similar business'es or pick another time slot. The regulation and proper management of entertainment venues has nothing to do with the individuals choice in where they go or what they do, if you want to sit in a stinking hole and drink cheap plonk you can always stay at home. Your mindless rant has less to do with my post and has more to do with your frustrated vision of an improving society, a society where quality venues will be the expected norm and not the exception... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 do none of these joints have a proper license ? sure appears that way ! How do you work that one out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeahSiam Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 For the life of me I can't see where you can find any hypocrisy in my original post, I think the hypocrisy you see has more to do with the alcohol or other mind altering substances you have inflicted on your body. In my humble opinion once these venue's are regulated and controlled you will see several things happen, improved service for their clients as in less "padding" of bills, the use of the correct and undiluted branded drinks, improved and safer facilities etc, etc... For the local workers I believe it would cut back on exploitation and the abuse inflicted on the most vulnerable etc, etc... In my experience in Europe there is no need for restrictive licensing hours, bars and clubs should (when they are situated away from residential area's) be allowed to open when they want. I have found that market forces will dictate whether they remain open in competition to other similar business'es or pick another time slot. The regulation and proper management of entertainment venues has nothing to do with the individuals choice in where they go or what they do, if you want to sit in a stinking hole and drink cheap plonk you can always stay at home. Your mindless rant has less to do with my post and has more to do with your frustrated vision of an improving society, a society where quality venues will be the expected norm and not the exception... You really don't have a clue what you're talking about, do you? You talk as if "regulated and controlled" venues don't pad bills or water down drinks and don't observe safety regulations. You talk as if legitimate businesses that close way before 1 or 2am don't exploit local workers and, by doing so, you show just how out-of-touch you are. You can stay home with your 9pm mug of cocoa, slippers and Radio 4 on the wireless and leave those who enjoy partying late to do so in the only way open to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bignose Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 For the life of me I can't see where you can find any hypocrisy in my original post, I think the hypocrisy you see has more to do with the alcohol or other mind altering substances you have inflicted on your body. In my humble opinion once these venue's are regulated and controlled you will see several things happen, improved service for their clients as in less "padding" of bills, the use of the correct and undiluted branded drinks, improved and safer facilities etc, etc... For the local workers I believe it would cut back on exploitation and the abuse inflicted on the most vulnerable etc, etc... In my experience in Europe there is no need for restrictive licensing hours, bars and clubs should (when they are situated away from residential area's) be allowed to open when they want. I have found that market forces will dictate whether they remain open in competition to other similar business'es or pick another time slot. The regulation and proper management of entertainment venues has nothing to do with the individuals choice in where they go or what they do, if you want to sit in a stinking hole and drink cheap plonk you can always stay at home. Your mindless rant has less to do with my post and has more to do with your frustrated vision of an improving society, a society where quality venues will be the expected norm and not the exception... You really don't have a clue what you're talking about, do you? You talk as if "regulated and controlled" venues don't pad bills or water down drinks and don't observe safety regulations. You talk as if legitimate businesses that close way before 1 or 2am don't exploit local workers and, by doing so, you show just how out-of-touch you are. You can stay home with your 9pm mug of cocoa, slippers and Radio 4 on the wireless and leave those who enjoy partying late to do so in the only way open to them. You have now tried on two occasions to make some convoluted and irrelevant points, you have only succeeded in confirming that you either don't want to see the points I am making, or that you are incapable of understanding what has been posted. I will leave this exchange as it is as you're contribution says it all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 'Two managers of the pub ... were arrested after police found that the pub was operated without a license.' Surprise, surprise. As is the fact that it falls within the boundaries of Thonglor police station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinger Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 100 officers for curfew violation: really No doubt they knew it would be inevitable that there would be other violations, including drug use, so not just for curfew violatioms......... really! You are right, so lets seee that is 20 officers for each arrested drug user. Must have been some real desperados....really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 do none of these joints have a proper license ? sure appears that way ! How do you work that one out? He was extrapolating a bit , but two out of two in this story did not have a license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falangjim Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 He indicated that commander of the Thonglor police station and four other senior officers of the station would be transferred because of the raid. Why?? Why not fire their goldbricking, corrupt asses? They get transferred to do the same thing somewhere else, I suppose. Does a transfer create hardship ? I sure hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeahSiam Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 For the life of me I can't see where you can find any hypocrisy in my original post, I think the hypocrisy you see has more to do with the alcohol or other mind altering substances you have inflicted on your body. In my humble opinion once these venue's are regulated and controlled you will see several things happen, improved service for their clients as in less "padding" of bills, the use of the correct and undiluted branded drinks, improved and safer facilities etc, etc... For the local workers I believe it would cut back on exploitation and the abuse inflicted on the most vulnerable etc, etc... In my experience in Europe there is no need for restrictive licensing hours, bars and clubs should (when they are situated away from residential area's) be allowed to open when they want. I have found that market forces will dictate whether they remain open in competition to other similar business'es or pick another time slot. The regulation and proper management of entertainment venues has nothing to do with the individuals choice in where they go or what they do, if you want to sit in a stinking hole and drink cheap plonk you can always stay at home. Your mindless rant has less to do with my post and has more to do with your frustrated vision of an improving society, a society where quality venues will be the expected norm and not the exception... You really don't have a clue what you're talking about, do you? You talk as if "regulated and controlled" venues don't pad bills or water down drinks and don't observe safety regulations. You talk as if legitimate businesses that close way before 1 or 2am don't exploit local workers and, by doing so, you show just how out-of-touch you are. You can stay home with your 9pm mug of cocoa, slippers and Radio 4 on the wireless and leave those who enjoy partying late to do so in the only way open to them. You have now tried on two occasions to make some convoluted and irrelevant points, you have only succeeded in confirming that you either don't want to see the points I am making, or that you are incapable of understanding what has been posted. I will leave this exchange as it is as you're contribution says it all... Anyone with even rudimentary reading comprehension ability can see exactly where I've addressed your dumb assertions about regulation and control. I go to late night venues and my bill isn't padded, my drinks aren't watered down, the establishments have clearly marked, unobstructed fire exits and all the staff do well on gratuities and no one's being exploited. This proves that each of your "points" have no grounding in fact. What a surprise. Reserve your claptrap for subjects you're qualified by experience to comment on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnigel Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I always find it interesting that the senior officials, and others are always transferred and not fired (at a minimum).They can't fire them, because then they would have to pay them back their 30,000 joining fee!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnigel Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) Nightclubs and beer is proof that Bhudda loves us, and wants us to be happy.....lol Edited June 5, 2015 by Ghostnigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borisloosebrain Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I have a mate coming in July, I didn't realise BKK had a 2am kurfew, is there anywhere to go after 2? Singapore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kblaze Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 "Popular" pub? Yeah sure... but hey whatever gets clicks eh Thaivisa News? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Funny nothing in the media same day on the raid of a Soi Cowboy establishment that had Coyote girls underage, and Owner hauled to Police station, and fined 400,000 Baht! Know this happen as fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukeandduke Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Funny nothing in the media same day on the raid of a Soi Cowboy establishment that had Coyote girls underage, and Owner hauled to Police station, and fined 400,000 Baht! Know this happen as fact. Interesting, do you know which one? Throw the book at those bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nithisa78 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Thonglor police are the worst - apathetic towards ordinary citizens, protective towards those who pay bribes. They should all be transferred to the Thai equivalent of Juno. that would be your place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimlove Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I have a mate coming in July, I didn't realise BKK had a 2am kurfew, is there anywhere to go after 2? Go to Saigon - better and cheaper beer + girls without any ridiculous rules made up from day to day by BiB that are only interested in Brown envelopes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Funny nothing in the media same day on the raid of a Soi Cowboy establishment that had Coyote girls underage, and Owner hauled to Police station, and fined 400,000 Baht! Know this happen as fact. So do tell us more about this fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 On 6/4/2015 at 11:37 AM, scorecard said: Wonder if any officials did any safety and exit inspections? Does it matter now that it will be shut down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upu2 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 On 6/4/2015 at 11:37 AM, scorecard said: Wonder if any officials did any safety and exit inspections? With the number of posts you have to your credit you know the answer to your question. Of course they didnt why would you need safety inspections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 On 6/4/2015 at 10:56 AM, Thaivisa News said: Over 100 policemen raided a popular pub Another 3 stayed at the police station to change a light bulb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumarianson Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 No licence?? They must have missed a payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stribling Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 On 6/4/2015 at 4:06 PM, cgphuket said: Depends on which drugs they were testing for. A multie-panel test would likely have been positive for 80% of them. They’re testing for meth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Crank Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 On June 4, 2015 at 12:45 AM, The manic said: Why close late night bars in a late night city? Why should adults be put to bed early? It's pathetic. because youve been berry berry bad and need your arse spanked daddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Crank Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 On June 4, 2015 at 12:59 AM, kkup said: I have a mate coming in July, I didn't realise BKK had a 2am kurfew, is there anywhere to go after 2? streets are dark and empty, creepy feeling, after midnight, even in chinatown, sukhumvit etc. the all night vibe is just not there, though i think a handful of clubs are still open if your still juiced on it. hard for me to get excited about partying all night when theres not a lot of people out and about, but im not an indoor club type. maybe try patpong area or lucifer in patpong may be open later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Rather than bother with a proper entertainment licence these pubs just pay their protection money to the local police and this exempts them from the application's and paperwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 This thread is now three years old. I'm going to close it for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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