domdom Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Hello,, The condominium acts says At a General Meeting, there must be the Meeting attendees with the collective votes of not less than one fourth of the total number of the votes to constitute a quorum. What is the meaning of "attendees".. Is this owners physically present or are the proxies taken into account ?? If your answer could be backed up with texts and facts, would be good as our meeting will be refused by people saying the quota is for people really physically attending the meeting.. Thanks a lot and have a nice day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayongchelsea Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Can use proxies. Limit to 3 per person in attendance at the agm.Committee members cannot be assigned proxies. It clearly states that in the condo act. It's 25% of the votes based on totally defined sq. meters which should be listed in your rules and regulations booklet. That is, bigger apartments get you to the quorum quicker. Look you have to give only 7 days notice of meetings, people are overseas etc..of course proxies can be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domdom Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Thank you Yes I know proxies can be used.. my point is.. do proxies count as "attendees" for the First meeting, so a second meeting doesn't have to be called to have the quorum ?? The lawyer of part of the co owners who support the previous manager who steals as much as he can says the proxies cannot be taken into account.. Hope this is not true. Thanks a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 MOVED to Condo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayongchelsea Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Thank you Yes I know proxies can be used.. my point is.. do proxies count as "attendees" for the First meeting, so a second meeting doesn't have to be called to have the quorum ?? The lawyer of part of the co owners who support the previous manager who steals as much as he can says the proxies cannot be taken into account.. Hope this is not true. Thanks a lot Of course they count as attendees as they count towards the quorum . Never heard this issue of physical numbers....most condos have so few people turn up that based on " physical attendees" nothing would ever happen. I think he needs to quote from the condo act where he is interpreting this. My experience of this type of bs is that they are hiding stuff. What is the advantage in calling the second meeting, just incurring additional expense..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domdom Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Hello We had the problem in last year meeting.. and our stupid lawyer agreed with their lawyer saying the meeting had to be recalled.. So this allowed manager to stay in place a few weeks more and take little more money.. We don't want to get same problem this year and have tried to study the condominium act ourselves.. Thank you for advice and info..We will hire another lawyer this time Have a nice day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 The lawyer of part of the co owners who support the previous manager who steals as much as he can says the proxies cannot be taken into account.. Like most Thai lawyers, this one is full of sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 What is the advantage in calling the second meeting, just incurring additional expense..? Second meeting: no quorum required and the dodgy manager can be given his marching orders based on a simple majority vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayongchelsea Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 What is the advantage in calling the second meeting, just incurring additional expense..?Second meeting: no quorum required and the dodgy manager can be given his marching orders based on a simple majority vote. Is there no minimum quorum for a second meeting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayongchelsea Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Hello We had the problem in last year meeting.. and our stupid lawyer agreed with their lawyer saying the meeting had to be recalled.. So this allowed manager to stay in place a few weeks more and take little more money.. We don't want to get same problem this year and have tried to study the condominium act ourselves.. Thank you for advice and info..We will hire another lawyer this time Have a nice day Be Careful about lawyers. Our first one colluded with the other parties lawyer..it's the Thai way as he explained it.. Condo management can be a can of worms !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 What is the advantage in calling the second meeting, just incurring additional expense..? Second meeting: no quorum required and the dodgy manager can be given his marching orders based on a simple majority vote. Even in the 2nd meeting the removal of the Manager (provided they are using Manager as in Juristic Person Manager) will still require not less than one quarter of the total votes, although as you mention there is no quorum stipulation to open the meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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