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Govt mulls disposal of 30m tonnes of garbage
Wattana Khamchu
The Nation

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BANGKOK: -- Thailand would need up to Bt1 billion to properly dispose of its 30 million tonnes of garbage, Interior Minister General Anupong Paojinda said yesterday. He added that the government was looking into the Private Investment in State Undertakings Act to see if it can get the private sector to invest in waste-to-energy power plants.

Anupong explained that the authorities did not have proper and sustainable guidelines on garbage management in the past, which is why 30 million tonnes of waste has been accumulated.

Since the prime minister added this issue to the national agenda, the Natural Resource and Environment Ministry was assigned to come up with a roadmap for garbage management, Anupong said.

In terms of household waste, he said the public must first be made aware that each location is responsible for its own garbage eradication.

"There are bound objections as soon as a waste-to-energy power plant is proposed. Hence, people should be made to understand that if they don't want such a power plant, then their area must have a proper dumping spot," he said.

He went on to say that there were two options - high-potential areas with enough garbage could build waste-to-energy power plants or areas with a low amount waste could bury it.

Of the 141 garbage-disposal areas nationwide, there are 44 locations that have sufficient garbage to feed waste-to-energy power plants, he said.

If the garbage created in these areas is not enough, then they can also take waste created in its 4-kilometre radius.

He explained that power plants would need up to 500 tonnes of waste every day, adding that anything less than that would not be worth investing in.

Anupong said the government would look into the Private Investment in State Undertakings Act 2013 before deciding whether it should invest or have the private sector invest in waste-to-energy power plants.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Govt-mulls-disposal-of-30m-tonnes-of-garbage-30262503.html

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-- The Nation 2015-06-17

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In any other 'normal' country, the head of the municipality would envisioned such problems

happening and make preparations head of of time to dispose of the mounting problems,

not so in Thailand, where monies probably were allocated to solve the issue but most likely gone

into private pocket, so now, committees will be formed, 1 billion baht budget, (half to the

pockets of the committee members) and some lucky lackey/cronies will win the contract

to get rid of a problem that should not have been there in the first place....

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Govt makes garbage disposal national agenda

Bangkok: Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has announced garbage disposal as a national agenda and has assigned the Natural Resources and Environment Ministry to draft a road map for sustainable disposal of garbage, Interior Minister Gen Anupong Paochinda said Tuesday.


Speaking to reporters after the weekly Cabinet meeting, Anupong said Prayut also assigned the Interior Ministry to be in charge of collecting garbage from the people for sustainable disposal in line with the road map to be drafted by the Natural Resources and Environment Ministry.

During the meeting, Prayut expressed concern that there have been no sustainable method for garbage disposal so the prime minister decided to make it a national agenda, Anupong said.

He said Prayut wanted to build garbage power plants in several parts of the country as a sustainable measure of disposal.

Several garbage power plant projects have met strong opposition from local residents.

Anupong said Prayut wanted the government agencies concerned to explain to local people that garbage power plants would be necessary or else more landfill sites would be needed.

The prime minister pointed out that there are now 141 major landfills nationwide and the garbage at the landfills could power up to 44 power plants.

Earlier, the Cabinet has approved a proposal that small power plant fueled by garbage would be exempted from environment impact assessment.

Anupong said about 500 tons of garbage a day would be suitable for fueling a power plant.

He said the Cabinet would later consider whether to invest in the power plants or give concession to private firms or carry out joint investments.

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There are waste-to-energy technologies since decades available for all sizes of communities but of course as bigger as better but it seems the only solution available here are just river dumping or burning -horrible sad thing to see how Asia is drowning in rubbish

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141 landfills?? Forgot a digit at least. And these are no proper landfills but most of the uncontrolled burning sites not to forget the hundreds of tons daily which end up in waterways.

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The more you think things are going to change, the more they stay the same. Everything is going according to plan to benefit Samart/M-Link JV waste to Energy Plants to burn this waste. M-Link used to belong to Shin Corp but recently they changed the name to Ferrum and is part owned by Pol Gen Somyot Pumpanmuang. He was appointed by the junta's National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) chaired by Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha.

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He explained that power plants would need up to 500 tonnes of waste every day, adding that anything less than that would not be worth investing in.

Perfect example of a snake swallowing its own tail.

Problem: too much garbage. Solution: build waste-to-energy power plans. Problem: not enough garbage to make the plants economically viable. Solution: produce more garbage.

And there was me believing all that crap about us consuming the world's resources too fast. . .

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He explained that power plants would need up to 500 tonnes of waste every day, adding that anything less than that would not be worth investing in.

Perfect example of a snake swallowing its own tail.

Problem: too much garbage. Solution: build waste-to-energy power plans. Problem: not enough garbage to make the plants economically viable. Solution: produce more garbage.

And there was me believing all that crap about us consuming the world's resources too fast. . .

The correct solution is subsidise the waste to energy plants, even if it costs more than less environmentally friendly disposal would have.

Waste to energy plants won't create a great deal of energy revenue. Relatively speaking, the fuel you are using is garbage, difficult to handle and with low energy yield.

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Govt mulls disposal of 30m tonnes of garbage

Hands up all those who expected to read something about the dumping of the draft charter.

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"the Cabinet would later consider whether to invest in the power plants or give concession to private firms or carry out joint investments."

Waste to Energy (WTE) technology and economics have been well-established. Using Build-Operate-Transfer (BOT) ownership model, in less than 20 years China has become a major player in the implementation of WTE technologies for managing municipal solid waste.

Today there are over 2,200 WTE plants worldwide with an annual disposal capacity of 270 million tons of waste and 500 new plants to be built by 2023.

Why can't the Junta ACT instead of MULLING?

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"the Cabinet would later consider whether to invest in the power plants or give concession to private firms or carry out joint investments."

Waste to Energy (WTE) technology and economics have been well-established. Using Build-Operate-Transfer (BOT) ownership model, in less than 20 years China has become a major player in the implementation of WTE technologies for managing municipal solid waste.

Today there are over 2,200 WTE plants worldwide with an annual disposal capacity of 270 million tons of waste and 500 new plants to be built by 2023.

Why can't the Junta ACT instead of MULLING?

Or you might ask, why didn't the last elected government do in 3 years what you expect the current to have done in 1. After all, they had B700+ billion (and rapidly rising) to throw away on garbage policies.

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"the Cabinet would later consider whether to invest in the power plants or give concession to private firms or carry out joint investments."

Waste to Energy (WTE) technology and economics have been well-established. Using Build-Operate-Transfer (BOT) ownership model, in less than 20 years China has become a major player in the implementation of WTE technologies for managing municipal solid waste.

Today there are over 2,200 WTE plants worldwide with an annual disposal capacity of 270 million tons of waste and 500 new plants to be built by 2023.

Why can't the Junta ACT instead of MULLING?

Because they have to "MULL" over the important issues.

Whats in it for me?

Will it be of benefit to my family, friends, etc?

Will it have an adverse affect on any business I/we/they currently own?

Will they build a plant anywhere near where I live?

Etc, etc, etc.

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They are preparing to Rush into the ideal of Mulling over a Roadmap......Leading to a Crackdown.

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And another 30 million tonnes festooned around the countryside. Environmental awareness doesn't really exist here which is why the place is a big rubbish tip, with a few trees sticking up here and there. Wild animals died off decades ago not that anyone cares. Meanwhile successive governments just sit around and.....................................mull.

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do what you normally do, put it with the rest of it, spread in any empty plots of land within and any remaining in the Klongs as the bigbadgeordie posts.

or perhaps do what you normally do - see above - and make ludicrous claim of discovering how to convert 30 m tons of garbage into gold dust and become the gold dust hub of SEA

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The more you think things are going to change, the more they stay the same. Everything is going according to plan to benefit Samart/M-Link JV waste to Energy Plants to burn this waste. M-Link used to belong to Shin Corp but recently they changed the name to Ferrum and is part owned by Pol Gen Somyot Pumpanmuang. He was appointed by the junta's National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) chaired by Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha.

Don't expect things to be done out of the goodness of the junta's heart. Leading statement like this leads to project that ultimately benefit someone monetary. Anyway, his proposal is only half the solution. What about policies to reduce and recycle waste. Not mentioned obviously.

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Just throw it in the nearest klong ;-)

The sea is full up already ? I don't see a problem, if they are suddenly going to get all moral because of the environment then offer Cambodia some money and export the crap, the west has been doing that for years with Africa until they got found out.

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yeah I do remember UK was shipping unwanted landfill waste to India at one point. Apparently the man power exists in India to remove useful crap from crap crap. or was it nuclear waste, I think labour costs were the same.... read into that what you will, either way some lefty types complained not sure if it was for wasting fuel in transporting the stuff, or human rights issues

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