Iran nuclear talks extended; Iranians meet key obligation

[Scott]

Off-topic posts removed. Attempts to weave off-topic remarks into posts and derail topics isn't going to be permitted.

[Seastallion]

History shows that nuclear weapons have only been used twice, within days of each other, when they were first invented. NO ONE else had them.

Correct.

So, since proliferation, no nukes have been used. MAD theory at work.

Hence the wisdom of Iran being armed.

Particularly since it has been attacked in the past by two nuclear armed countries.

[Ulysses G.]

MAD does not apply to radical Islam. Eternity in paradise and 72 virgins with pear-shaped breasts is too good a trade for many believers.

[Seastallion]

MAD does not apply to radical Islam. Eternity in paradise and 72 virgins with pear-shaped breasts is too good a trade for many believers.

I do take your point. ISIS should not be armed.

But when it is a country, the 72 virgins and their pear-shaped breasts do not factor in, especially when it comes to MAD. A suicide bomber making a martyr of himself for the cause might make sense to radical Islam but a country committing suicide? For what??? There would be no cause left.

Anyway, just how "radically Islamic" are the Iranians that have access to the nuclear button?

[Publicus]

MAD does not apply to radical Islam. Eternity in paradise and 72 virgins with pear-shaped breasts is too good a trade for many believers.

Mad hatters is a term that does apply to the fanatics in Iran and the USA who want war and want war now.

Attack now causes problems of support at the UN General Assembly because it is a highly aggressive action and would be a turn to military force before any kind of deal might be inked.

Attack after signing a deal and inspecting for a couple of years, or several years, and only if definitive proof exists a deal was broken by unauthorized research and development of nuclear arms or weapons grade fuel.

Attack now creates more problems than it solves in the world'd most volatile region. Attack later if need be and with ample justification and support against the violator of the deal is the more viable and preferred option of policy and military doctrine.

[daveAustin]

Everyone has a right to defend themselves, right?

Even those threatening to annihilate countries?

[Chicog]

MAD does not apply to radical Islam. Eternity in paradise and 72 virgins with pear-shaped breasts is too good a trade for many believers.

There have been 450 suicide bomb attacks in Pakistan since 1995.

I can find four in Iran in that time, all in the south east and all perpetrated by Sunni terrorists from Pakistan.

Yet you think Iran is the one that shouldn't have nuclear weapons.

Yeah, good luck with that one.

Again: Shi'a do not do suicide attacks.

Edited July 4, 2015 by Chicog

[Chicog]

Vienna

After months of intense negotiations, global powers and Iran go into a key weekend of talks Saturday amid signs they may be inching towards a historic nuclear deal to end a 13-year standoff.

While Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif warned there was still "no guarantee" of success, he said the world had "never been closer" to reaching an accord with his country. In a rare move, Zarif offered the promise of greater cooperation to tackle other global problems, such as the rise of the Islamic State group, should the deal be sealed.

Global powers are trying to draw the curtain on almost two years of negotiations, which gathered fresh impetus after President Hassan Rouhani took power in late 2013. The aim is to finalise a deal which would put a nuclear bomb beyond Iran's reach, in return for lifting a web of biting international sanctions slapped on the Islamic republic.

Speaking in English from the balcony of the Viennese hotel hosting the talks, Zarif said in a message posted on YouTube that at "this 11th hour, despite some differences that remain, we have never been closer to a lasting outcome". "Getting to yes requires the courage to compromise, the self-confidence to be flexible, the maturity to be reasonable," he said.

But he added that Iran was ready to strike "a balanced and good deal" which could "open new horizons to address important common challenges". "Our common threat today is the growing menace of violent extremism and outright barbarism," he said in a clear reference to the Islamic State (IS) jihadist group that has overrun parts of Syria and Iraq.

As Zarif met US Secretary of State John Kerry for fresh talks Friday, the top US diplomat praised "the genuine effort" being made by all sides and insisted progress had been made despite "tough issues".

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[Ulysses G.]

MAD does not apply to radical Islam. Eternity in paradise and 72 virgins with pear-shaped breasts is too good a trade for many believers.

Yet you think Iran is the one that shouldn't have nuclear weapons.

It does no good to to close the barn door after the horse has bolted.

[Chicog]

MAD does not apply to radical Islam. Eternity in paradise and 72 virgins with pear-shaped breasts is too good a trade for many believers.

Yet you think Iran is the one that shouldn't have nuclear weapons.

It does no good to to close the barn door after the horse has bolted.

Well personally I think Pakistan represents the biggest threat of a nuke being used in my lifetime.

And that would include Iran getting one.