webfact Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Culture Minister eyes management model of Peru's Machu PicchuMACHU PICCHU, 15 July 2015 (NNT) - Culture Minister Weera Rojpojanarat was impressed with Peru's management of its historic sanctuary of Machu Picchu, saying the pattern could be adopted for use at world heritage sites in Thailand.The minister led a delegation of Thai Culture officials to visit the Peruvian world heritage of Machu Picchu, an ancient urban city of the Inca Empire which has become a state-owned national park managed by the Cultural Office of Cusco, Peru. The minister also discussed and exchanged views with the Director of the Cultural Office of Cusco, Mr. Fernando Astete Victoria.Mr.Weera said later that Peru has well managed the historic sanctuary, especially in the archaeological conservation of the site while an excavation for new discovery is ongoing. The Cultural Office of Cusco has cooperated with the private sector and local authorities in developing roads and railway access to the historical site, allowing flows of tourists and a lot of income to support Cusco's local economy. Each year, Machu Picchu has earned over THB1,400m from entrance fees. The income is used for the conservation of the site and also benefits other Peruvian ancient remains beyond the boundary of Machu Picchu.Mr. Fernando Astete Victoria said the most attractive aspect of Machu Picchu was its city planning and refined architecture, which blends exceptionally well with the stunning mountainous terrain and slopes. He said he hoped the visit of the Thai delegation would help promote tourism of Peru among Thai nationals.-- NNT 2015-07-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Wonder how much that little trip cost the tax payers ? regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lissos Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Income is used for the conservation of the site and also benefits other Peruvian ancient remains beyond the boundary of Machu Picchu. 'Is' it though? After all, much of Koh Samet is supposed to be a national park and has been suckling the cash cow of foreign tourists for years via its so called 'rangers' but I don't believe a f**** g word of it, based in what I and others have seen there. Now it has been nearly twenty years since I visited Machu Picchu but I have heard it has become more and more regulated and expensive to visit 'supposedly' because of us visiting it. It is difficult to know if money goes straight into people's pockets in Lima and Bangkok, or actually gets spent on what they claim it is spent on. One thing is for sure, over the last twenty years or so there has been a 'model' of ring fencing historical sites and charging foreigners an entry fee which bears no resemblance to the local economy whatsoever. Countries who haven't, simply haven't cottoned on yet. I suspect it is 'this' the Thai Culture Minister has 'eyed' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Wouldn't a few emails and a Google search have elicited the same information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Wonder how much that little trip cost the tax payers ? regards Worgeordie Well at least he didn't pack a pistol in his carry on bags! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnacarta Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I think the chicken is comimg home to roost.With all the quangoes going abroad at the tax payers expense,when will they wake up to being treated as uneducated imbiceles.Never is a very big word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Somehow, I don't think Thailand has anything in the same league as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 They actually admitted they took a sponsored freebie to machu pichu? Have they never heard of email? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 The Thai reported that The Cultural Office of Cusco "cooperate" with the private an public sector. Right here is the catch 22 for THais. Thais do not "cooperate." There is no Thai comprehension of cooperate. The Thai equivalent of cooperate is money changing hans without concern for strategy, goals, mutual understanding without Thai interpretation later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Machu-Picchu-Peru-728x490.jpg Somehow, I don't think Thailand has anything in the same league as this. Nana Plaza ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razer Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 After reading some of these moronic comments I ask ... Why do I bother? When I first moved here in 2007 I read an article saying that most of the college educated office workers in BKK were first generation off the farm. Thais have always thought of themselves as the center of the Asian universe ... the most advanced ... the most cultured ... the best... AND ... Never mind looking at successful management models in other countries. Now Thailand is changing ... more educated ... better traveled ... Looking at successful models outside Thailand not only for historical sites but for preservation of natural resources and education is a smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Bet they did not get further than Each year, Machu Picchu has earned over THB1,400m from entrance fees. Aaah, new Benz's all around!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Some keywords to note here - 'well managed', 'conservation', 'developing roads', 'city planning' Focus your attention on these words instead of the 1400MIL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 So they want to copy the annihilation of a culture? They did that with the 100 "Chinese" men last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 After reading some of these moronic comments I ask ... Why do I bother? When I first moved here in 2007 I read an article saying that most of the college educated office workers in BKK were first generation off the farm. Thais have always thought of themselves as the center of the Asian universe ... the most advanced ... the most cultured ... the best... AND ... Never mind looking at successful management models in other countries. Now Thailand is changing ... more educated ... better traveled ... Looking at successful models outside Thailand not only for historical sites but for preservation of natural resources and education is a smart move. Razer, really ... how can you be so naive after 8 years here. This was a junket, a perk of the job with a few snappy PR type comments thrown in to try to give the trip some kind of legitimacy. The net result in terms of benefits to Thailand will be zero. Ask yourself this question: Why was it necessary to send a delegation to such an exotic locale to learn about its management techniques when the answers are already here in this country, and only require a bit of common sense to envisage and enact? It's not rocket science we are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammygood Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 do they also charge tourists 10 - 20x more than locals ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kannikapor88 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Imagine hoards of chinese tourists in a place like Machu Picchu, spitting and kicking but thats what you have now Thailand so deal with it ... ha-ha-ha ... BTW Thai authorities are not able to maintain anything - too mutt Money going to mia noi and what not ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 After reading some of these moronic comments I ask ... Why do I bother? When I first moved here in 2007 I read an article saying that most of the college educated office workers in BKK were first generation off the farm. Thais have always thought of themselves as the center of the Asian universe ... the most advanced ... the most cultured ... the best... AND ... Never mind looking at successful management models in other countries. Now Thailand is changing ... more educated ... better traveled ... Looking at successful models outside Thailand not only for historical sites but for preservation of natural resources and education is a smart move. Moronic? Perhaps. Poorly thought out? Perhaps. Your views have merit and are thought provoking for sure. For some, the thought pattern is limited to the use of vulgarities, negative slurs and juvenile obfuscation. They too have value in that they magnify the narrow mindedness of the poster. Keep posting my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) After reading some of these moronic comments I ask ... Why do I bother? When I first moved here in 2007 I read an article saying that most of the college educated office workers in BKK were first generation off the farm. Thais have always thought of themselves as the center of the Asian universe ... the most advanced ... the most cultured ... the best... AND ... Never mind looking at successful management models in other countries. Now Thailand is changing ... more educated ... better traveled ... Looking at successful models outside Thailand not only for historical sites but for preservation of natural resources and education is a smart move. Razer, really ... how can you be so naive after 8 years here. This was a junket, a perk of the job with a few snappy PR type comments thrown in to try to give the trip some kind of legitimacy. The net result in terms of benefits to Thailand will be zero. Ask yourself this question: Why was it necessary to send a delegation to such an exotic locale to learn about its management techniques when the answers are already here in this country, and only require a bit of common sense to envisage and enact? It's not rocket science we are talking about. A junket? Who paid for it? How much was paid? Was it cost shared between both countries? Was it a reciprocal visit? What accredited report states the net results and benefits? What is common sense in this instance? Who decides what that is? A Thai or a non-stakeholder? Seems to be rife with unanswered questions and I certainly am not qualified or informed enough to answer them. I have been coming to Thailand since 1993 and have lived here full-time since 2013. I am still naive and unable to determine who shares that title with me. Edited July 16, 2015 by Benmart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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