What snakes are these?

[JakeSully]

Came across these 2.. one while I was walking back at night from a bar Soi Bukhao and the other while I was putting my laundry out in Pattaya..

Are they dangerous/ venomous?

[pigeonjake]

1st ones a rat snake,

dont know about the other cant see it,

rats snakes are ok

[JakeSully]

Looks a bit similar to this Daboia (russel's viper) but I'm no expert:

[tolsti]

I think the second one is a copperhead racer (rat snake) given the body shape change in reaction to that cat.

http://www.siam-info.com/english/snales_common.html

[JakeSully]

That cat saved my life if that thing was venomous.

It jumped on me and I backed up and saw there was a snake there that I was about to put my foot next to.

[Craig krup]

I don't know why people get all romantic about venomous reptiles. The acid test question is, "If it didn't exist would you invent it?" The Tasmanian Tiger became extinct years ago. Some eejit reckoned he could recreate it from recovered DNA and a related host. Why!!! It was a bloody awful animal with no redeeming qualities at all. Snakes can't see properly, they can't hear and there's probably nothing that it's like to be a snake (paraphrasing Nagel's remark about bats). So given that they probably don't really have self-conscious existence, given that a cat is a vastly superior pest controller and given that if you get bitten by a venomous snake it could fudge up your whole life why do people feel this "like, man" obligation to pretend that they're anything but a nuisance? Nobody would invent mosquitoes, would they? Would you honestly invent snakes? If you think the patterns are nice couldn't you use that as wallpaper on your computer, rather than insisting on having living landmines lying around. Thais apparently go mental and kill snakes on sight. There's a reason for that. For hundreds of years people have been seriously injured by them, so the cultural practice of giving them the good news became established.

[kannot]

I don't know why people get all romantic about venomous reptiles. The acid test question is, "If it didn't exist would you invent it?" The Tasmanian Tiger became extinct years ago. Some eejit reckoned he could recreate it from recovered DNA and a related host. Why!!! It was a bloody awful animal with no redeeming qualities at all. Snakes can't see properly, they can't hear and there's probably nothing that it's like to be a snake (paraphrasing Nagel's remark about bats). So given that they probably don't really have self-conscious existence, given that a cat is a vastly superior pest controller and given that if you get bitten by a venomous snake it could fudge up your whole life why do people feel this "like, man" obligation to pretend that they're anything but a nuisance? Nobody would invent mosquitoes, would they? Would you honestly invent snakes? If you think the patterns are nice couldn't you use that as wallpaper on your computer, rather than insisting on having living landmines lying around. Thais apparently go mental and kill snakes on sight. There's a reason for that. For hundreds of years people have been seriously injured by them, so the cultural practice of giving them the good news became established.

"some" people also are a waste of time, especially with their condemnation of various insects, reptiles, snakes etc............I mean would you invent a human on a planet that was doing just fine?

[steven100]

are you sure they're not cobras ....

[LennyW]

The top picture is an Indo-Chinese Rat snake, one of the most frequently seen snakes in Thailand and harmless unless you are a frog, rat, mouse etc.

The second picture is a Copperhead Racer also known as a Radiated Rat Snake, again harmless but it will strike repeatedly if frightened or cornered, that can be very scary!!

[Craig krup]

I don't know why people get all romantic about venomous reptiles. The acid test question is, "If it didn't exist would you invent it?" The Tasmanian Tiger became extinct years ago. Some eejit reckoned he could recreate it from recovered DNA and a related host. Why!!! It was a bloody awful animal with no redeeming qualities at all. Snakes can't see properly, they can't hear and there's probably nothing that it's like to be a snake (paraphrasing Nagel's remark about bats). So given that they probably don't really have self-conscious existence, given that a cat is a vastly superior pest controller and given that if you get bitten by a venomous snake it could fudge up your whole life why do people feel this "like, man" obligation to pretend that they're anything but a nuisance? Nobody would invent mosquitoes, would they? Would you honestly invent snakes? If you think the patterns are nice couldn't you use that as wallpaper on your computer, rather than insisting on having living landmines lying around. Thais apparently go mental and kill snakes on sight. There's a reason for that. For hundreds of years people have been seriously injured by them, so the cultural practice of giving them the good news became established.

"some" people also are a waste of time, especially with their condemnation of various insects, reptiles, snakes etc............I mean would you invent a human on a planet that was doing just fine?

Well, at the risk of sounding like Immanuel Kant the planet wasn't doing "just fine" until we came along. The planet wasn't "doing" anything until there were creatures on it who were self-conscious, able to distinguish right from wrong, conceive of morality....

Read what I sad. Snakes probably don't have a meaningful existence. The great apes probably do have interior lives, so eating chimps is probably wrong in the same way that eating people is wrong. You can argue about dogs - they have a left gaze bias when they look at human faces, which seems to indicate that they're reading emotions. But while you wouldn't stand on a sleeping person you can stand on the moon - people move, and so does the moon, but the moon isn't a person. So given that there's - to repeat - nothing that it's like to be a snake, their existence isn't - in and of itself - a "good". They're objects, not subjects, and not the kind of objects that you'd choose to have lying around.

[incidentally, if you're more than smart enough to understand science, and are looking for a new challenge, try philosophy ].

[JakeSully]

The top picture is an Indo-Chinese Rat snake, one of the most frequently seen snakes in Thailand and harmless unless you are a frog, rat, mouse etc.

The second picture is a Copperhead Racer also known as a Radiated Rat Snake, again harmless but it will strike repeatedly if frightened or cornered, that can be very scary!!

Are you sure the 2nd isn't a viper?

Brownish in color.. r

[LennyW]

The top picture is an Indo-Chinese Rat snake, one of the most frequently seen snakes in Thailand and harmless unless you are a frog, rat, mouse etc.

The second picture is a Copperhead Racer also known as a Radiated Rat Snake, again harmless but it will strike repeatedly if frightened or cornered, that can be very scary!!

Are you sure the 2nd isn't a viper?

Brownish in color.. r

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