Phatbeets Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I'm a 32 yo French/German guy having a good life here in Germany but eventually wife and myself will move to Thailand in a couple of years. We are together since 8 years and married since 6 and in all honesty infidelity was and will never be a concern. I aint wasting my marriage for a quick f**ck. Village life is not for me and finding a job (before moving) in bkk should be no problem as I work in the Pharmaceutical industry since 10 years. Money evasion to the village would be limited. Been 11x to SEA and have seen a lot in Thailand so I know Thailand well and the Thai mentality. This year we have a pretty hot summer here in Europe and recently I noticed that with those temperatures the only thing I like to do after work is rocking the beer garden with friends. We have delicious craft beer here and all that but with those temperatures I'm not doing any other hobby like music or sport. I'm not drinking like an animal but still... So basically I'm kind of scarred to turn in to an old fat alcoholic fart way too early. Also drinking ~every day during holidays is one thing but I don't want to die of a liver cirrhosis in TH if you see what I mean. With those temperatures all year long and the booze being sold everywhere - How do you guys deal with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatbeets Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 * Thing Other things would be the euro turning to complete shit And heavy thunderstorms. I had a couple in Bkk and they scare the shit out of me. Thunder was so strong/loud I thought the whole house would get roasted by some lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Self control is how many of us deal with that problem, if you don't have self control you shouldn't come here, you'll need it for many aspects of life here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I love the thunderstorms! Amazing. Plus I dont see much problem with the health system in Thailand. A full check up for £100 isn't bad. We all have to die sometime anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 If you work here than it should be not a problem.no employer likes his staff pissed at work...though I limit myself to two beers on working days...off days- different story... Btw you're either French or German... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Any age is the wrong age to become an old fat alcoholic fart..... Some of us have managed not to tick 2 of those boxes..... Only 2 kinds of habits - good and bad..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 If you work here than it should be not a problem.no employer likes his staff pissed at work...though I limit myself to two beers on working days...off days- different story... Btw you're either French or German... To be honest cc with the way he uses English i am not sure he is German or a garlic eating surrender monkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneyboy Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 If you work here than it should be not a problem.no employer likes his staff pissed at work...though I limit myself to two beers on working days...off days- different story... Btw you're either French or German... To be honest cc with the way he uses English i am not sure he is German or a garlic eating surrender monkey I'd second that also . Bravo old chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzarella Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Sure...If you do like to drink...and cannot get busy with work or hobbies....having a lousy life here can make you an alcoholic, but the biggest problem may be if you like women. Even into a very happy marriage....will be too many opportunities for an active foreigner to get into cheating..and troubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 If you are the sort of person that is going to become an alchoholic old fart ,it does not matter where you live ,you will become one , mind you my drinking is becoming a problem ,the wife and i shared a can of chang again last night ,thats the second one this month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) If you expect to have a fulltime job and live in the city (away from the red light) I would not expect this to be a specific problem in Thailand. Finish work, retire to Thailand, bored to death out in the sticks or emblazed by redlight, no work, no hobby: that's a different situation. I finished work, retired to Thailand, live in the sticks One of the main hobbies: reading and posting on this forum Two large beers a day (in the evening). The liver is still working well. Self discipline is necessary! If this is the biggest worry you are ready to go (come). Edited July 26, 2015 by KhunBENQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partington Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 If you expect to have a fulltime job and live in the city (away from the red light) I would not expect this to be a specific problem in Thailand. Finish work, retire to Thailand, bored to death out in the sticks or emblazed by redlight, no work, no hobby: that's a different situation. I finished work, retired to Thailand, live in the sticks One of the main hobbies: reading and posting on this forum Two large beers a day (in the evening). The liver is still working well. Self discipline is necessary! If this is the biggest worry you are ready to go (come). Two large beers every day, (presuming you mean each bottle is 640ml of a 5% strength) is 6.4 UK units of alcohol per day: assuming seven days a week, that makes 44.8 units a week. The UK guidelines for a safe level of drinking are 21 units per week for men, with the advisory that you go at least two consecutive days a week without drinking. Not saying this as a criticism, just pointing out that current UK views on adverse health effects of alcohol would class that level of drinking as" heavy", ie more than twice the recommended " safe" level. Of course other developed countries have different recommendation levels, both higher and lower, suggesting hard and fast evidence for "safe" levels is lacking. Looking at all current western countries' recommendations suggests an average of around 30 per week is probably OK. Boredom coupled with hot weather and lots of free time does tend to increase any existing propensity to drink, which I admit I do have. The way I control it is write down every unit I drink. I deliberately limit myself to that 30 units a week, and when I get to that point I stop drinking for long enough to bring the weekly consumption average down to 30 again. This means always getting at least three to four consecutive non drinking days in a row-another heath benefit. It's a bit obsessive but it works for my temperament: when you can see the spreadsheet in front of you it's hard to pretend to yourself that you're not overdoing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatbeets Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 Self control is how many of us deal with that problem, if you don't have self control you shouldn't come here, you'll need it for many aspects of life here. Well that's obviously the best answer I can get overthought I was looking for more details about how you avoid drinking too regularly. What outdoor sport do guys do? I would hate to register to a gym center just because of the AC. If you work here than it should be not a problem.no employer likes his staff pissed at work...though I limit myself to two beers on working days...off days- different story... Btw you're either French or German... Nope I have both nationalities its not common but during a short period it was possible. 2 Beers a day during the week sounds right down my alley and I guess this still OK right? More people limit them-self to 2 Beers a day? If you work here than it should be not a problem.no employer likes his staff pissed at work...though I limit myself to two beers on working days...off days- different story... Btw you're either French or German... To be honest cc with the way he uses English i am not sure he is German or a garlic eating surrender monkey Soutpeel must be mad cause he obviously is the kind of useless drunk f**cktard with a fat gut that I don't want to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Nweever drrink dore 5 cloxks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Nweever drrink dore 5 cloxks... Funny but true, never before 6pm, a good rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatbeets Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 partington that's interesting but it sounds like a little too much management. The main motivation for me to come to Thailand is to enjoy the second part of my life even more than I would here and this includes some kind of "laissez faire". I think taking a day off every second day is an achievable plan and I hope I will able to stick to it. I also agree with NickJ. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 come to thailand at 32, forget about your pension, your health, your future and your childrens future really great idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatbeets Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 Beside my state pension I Pay in 6 different private pensions since starting working 10 years ago. I already own my condo. This post is about my health Like I already wrote as a business analyst in the pharmaceutical industry I believe I could find a decent job in bkk in just about a couple of weeks. I have no kids. any other smart comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 If you can't walk past a bar without stopping for a drink, you're likely to end up as a drunk wherever you live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 finding a job (before moving) in bkk should be no problem as I work in the Pharmaceutical industry since 10 years. What makes you think pharmaceutical companies in BKK are looking to hire farangs off the street, even those with relevant experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatbeets Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 My company delivers large MES projects and process automation. All those are doing business in Thailand and are or were our customers Pfizer Sanofi GlaxoSmithKline Merck and Novartis I worked and still work for 3 of those companies in long term projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatbeets Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 "Altogether, there are 714 pharmaceutical companies with operations in Thailand. Almost 80 percent are Thai companies. Leading Thai drug manufacturers include Greater Pharma, Siam Pharmaceutical, Biolab and Thai Meiji. The Government Pharmaceutical Organization (GPO), under the Ministry of Public Health (MPH), is another major manufacturer. It produces about 300 pharmaceutical products, many of which are sold through public hospitals" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 All of that and those things yet you ask at the outset, how do expats manage not to drink everyday! Some part of the story doesn't quite make sense, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatbeets Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 Its a discussion board right? Are there only great intellectual discussion threads on the front page? Im not an alcoholic and my self control is not that bad as I cold turkey stopped smoking a while ago but I thought that it was a legit topic and made this post as I was curious to hear about the routine of others. No big deal imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Self control is how many of us deal with that problem, if you don't have self control you shouldn't come here, you'll need it for many aspects of life here. Well that's obviously the best answer I can get overthought I was looking for more details about how you avoid drinking too regularly. What outdoor sport do guys do? I would hate to register to a gym center just because of the AC. If you work here than it should be not a problem.no employer likes his staff pissed at work...though I limit myself to two beers on working days...off days- different story... Btw you're either French or German... Nope I have both nationalities its not common but during a short period it was possible. 2 Beers a day during the week sounds right down my alley and I guess this still OK right? More people limit them-self to 2 Beers a day? If you work here than it should be not a problem.no employer likes his staff pissed at work...though I limit myself to two beers on working days...off days- different story... Btw you're either French or German... To be honest cc with the way he uses English i am not sure he is German or a garlic eating surrender monkey Soutpeel must be mad cause he obviously is the kind of useless drunk f**cktard with a fat gut that I don't want to be. Wrong.Soutie is a hard working and pleasant chap including the natural inborn dislike of Frenchs therefore state that you are German and don't mention the French part...just kidding( I mean the second part) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Beside my state pension I Pay in 6 different private pensions since starting working 10 years ago. I already own my condo. This post is about my health Like I already wrote as a business analyst in the pharmaceutical industry I believe I could find a decent job in bkk in just about a couple of weeks. I have no kids. any other smart comments? </p> Listen to Bikey or his mate Cypress Hill( should be here soon) that's are wise folks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrilled Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 There is A good chance that you wouldn't be able to work at A Pharmacy.It would be taking A job away from A Thai.Theres very few jobs that the Thai government will allow A foreigner to do. You might do like many farang so do.Go to The Mall hangout and drink coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatbeets Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 ^ "work at A Pharmacy" uh nah its not that at all. And like I mentioned I would definitely try to get hired from here b4 moving. Anyway can we get back on topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelmsman Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 If you expect to have a fulltime job and live in the city (away from the red light) I would not expect this to be a specific problem in Thailand. Finish work, retire to Thailand, bored to death out in the sticks or emblazed by redlight, no work, no hobby: that's a different situation. I finished work, retired to Thailand, live in the sticks One of the main hobbies: reading and posting on this forum Two large beers a day (in the evening). The liver is still working well. Self discipline is necessary! If this is the biggest worry you are ready to go (come). Two large beers every day, (presuming you mean each bottle is 640ml of a 5% strength) is 6.4 UK units of alcohol per day: assuming seven days a week, that makes 44.8 units a week. The UK guidelines for a safe level of drinking are 21 units per week for men, with the advisory that you go at least two consecutive days a week without drinking. Not saying this as a criticism, just pointing out that current UK views on adverse health effects of alcohol would class that level of drinking as" heavy", ie more than twice the recommended " safe" level. Of course other developed countries have different recommendation levels, both higher and lower, suggesting hard and fast evidence for "safe" levels is lacking. Looking at all current western countries' recommendations suggests an average of around 30 per week is probably OK. Boredom coupled with hot weather and lots of free time does tend to increase any existing propensity to drink, which I admit I do have. The way I control it is write down every unit I drink. I deliberately limit myself to that 30 units a week, and when I get to that point I stop drinking for long enough to bring the weekly consumption average down to 30 again. This means always getting at least three to four consecutive non drinking days in a row-another heath benefit. It's a bit obsessive but it works for my temperament: when you can see the spreadsheet in front of you it's hard to pretend to yourself that you're not overdoing it. At the house all our time is spent outside in the shade. Going to the store for a couple of beers to drink at home is just so easy. Then folks stop by and I pour a glass for them. They stay for awhile so of course we get a few more. I stay in Thailand for 2 months and I go back to sea where I drink very little. It's the atmosphere and weather of Thailand that makes having a beer so agreeable. I understand when I stay here permamently I'll have to curb my beer intake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantiSuk Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 French/German guy with 1st class vernacular English. Many congrats or troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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