New trend of young, educated Thai women with farang husbands emerges: researcher

[lostoday]

I found it easier to date girls back home than here in Thailand. I dont frequent girlie bars, do my experience is that western women are more available.

Are you a heterosexual single male living in Thailand?

[Roadman]

One of the big reasons Western men like Thai women is they are available and weight and height proportionate Western women are not available to them. Also there is not an age prejudice in Thailand young vs old and anywhere near the absolute hatred of old age in the West.

Which is a long-winded way of saying "they can't get laid back home".

Rubbish. The freezing cold climate where I used to live contained no black haired, black eyed, cute 47kg petite Asian women that I adore. The closest to that to get laid by would be a 130 kg Fijian in a Swandri, gumboots and your granddad's long johns, who would not look out of place in the All Black scrum front row. And believe you me with such a Fijian beauty it would not be you doing the laying.

[OKOK23]

Puggaddon, I know that you are intelligent! Of course you are allowed to talk nonsense from time to time!

Lol I can't deny

I really talk nonsense sometime

And I really aware of it

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[SoiBiker]

I dont frequent girlie bars...

Then prepare yourself for the gamut of weird assumptions people will make here - you must be gay, you must be a religious fanatic, you must be married to a 20-stone farang monster, and many more besides.

[fang37]

Potential partner.

Reasonable education is quite acceptable.

As they get more & more educated, my experience -

TOO assertive - no - aggressive.

Too demanding in all ways.

Cooking, housekeeping - sorry, must keep my beauty treatment appointment!

This is why Thailand is home for me - a superior blend.

[micmichd]

One of the big reasons Western men like Thai women is they are available and weight and height proportionate Western women are not available to them. Also there is not an age prejudice in Thailand young vs old and anywhere near the absolute hatred of old age in the West.

Which is a long-winded way of saying "they can't get laid back home".

At least not by the kind of women that are attractive to them.

A Farang woman above the age of 35 is an old woman to me, and I don't like old women too much. A Thai lady might still be a young woman at the age of 40+ because Thai ladies don't lose their female shape so early. Hope it rremains that way.

Edited August 2, 2015 by micmichd

[SoiBiker]

One of the big reasons Western men like Thai women is they are available and weight and height proportionate Western women are not available to them. Also there is not an age prejudice in Thailand young vs old and anywhere near the absolute hatred of old age in the West.

Which is a long-winded way of saying "they can't get laid back home".

At least not by the kind of women that are attractive to them.

A Farang woman above the age of 35 is an old woman to me, and I don't like old women too much. A Thai lady might still be a young woman at the age of 40+ because Thai ladies don't lose their female shape so early. Hope it rremains that way.

You've made your feelings about farang women perfectly (and repeatedly) clear, so I guess there's little purpose in pointing out what a ridiculous generalisation that is, or how there are plenty of hot farang women over 35 (and plenty of unattractive Thai women under that age).

Typical simplistic Thaivisa thinking.

[micmichd]

One of the big reasons Western men like Thai women is they are available and weight and height proportionate Western women are not available to them. Also there is not an age prejudice in Thailand young vs old and anywhere near the absolute hatred of old age in the West.

Which is a long-winded way of saying "they can't get laid back home".

At least not by the kind of women that are attractive to them.

A Farang woman above the age of 35 is an old woman to me, and I don't like old women too much. A Thai lady might still be a young woman at the age of 40+ because Thai ladies don't lose their female shape so early. Hope it rremains that way.

You've made your feelings about farang women perfectly (and repeatedly) clear, so I guess there's little purpose in pointing out what a ridiculous generalisation that is, or how there are plenty of hot farang women over 35 (and plenty of unattractive Thai women under that age).

Typical simplistic Thaivisa thinking.

Maybe only a matter of taste.

But I've been judged and prosecuted for my taste by Farang women, and that makes a difference.

Edited August 2, 2015 by micmichd

[SoilSpoil]

I dont frequent girlie bars...

Then prepare yourself for the gamut of weird assumptions people will make here - you must be gay, you must be a religious fanatic, you must be married to a 20-stone farang monster, and many more besides.

Yes I realize that, but dont care of course. Unless you're from a Muslim country, its rather difficult to deny that Thai women and society is rather conservative. Thai women are mostly traditional and more promiscuous. Western women are easier to approach and are more liberal to dating and sex. Again: I don't frequent prostitues, nor do I condem those who do. Just my personal experience having lived in both Europe and Asia in my prime years.

http://www.salon.com/2014/02/19/the_12_most_sexually_satisfied_countries_in_the_world_partner/

[SoiBiker]

I dont frequent girlie bars...

Then prepare yourself for the gamut of weird assumptions people will make here - you must be gay, you must be a religious fanatic, you must be married to a 20-stone farang monster, and many more besides.

Yes I realize that, but dont care of course. Unless you're from a Muslim country, its rather difficult to deny that Thai women and society is rather conservative. Thai women are mostly traditional and more promiscuous. Western women are easier to approach and are more liberal to dating and sex. Again: I don't frequent prostitues, nor do I condem those who do. Just my personal experience having lived in both Europe and Asia in my prime years.

http://www.salon.com/2014/02/19/the_12_most_sexually_satisfied_countries_in_the_world_partner/

I think you make some interesting points. Plus I can't imagine a date with someone I couldn't have a decent conversation with.

[nontabury]

Lostoday, I know you mean well and you did your time butwellwe the younger savvy lads wish to see the stigma pass.

You served, great mate; you're not the only one.

......no longer "a country for old men".

I understand what you are saying. The change is not yours or ours to make. Thai women have not changed since the French and Portuguese sailing ships arrived here in the 1500's. I was here in the 1960's and it was the same as today. The old guys were cooler then as they were real adventurous types because the health care and infrastructure was much different.

You want Thai girls to have the same nice reputation as Western girls with none of the feminist bad habits and not at war with the male species like they are in the West. I'm afraid you can't have both.

When I first got here Thailand's women had no more a bad reputation than women from Taiwan, Japan, Korea, or Singapore. The other countries changed - Thailand didn't.

Western girls have a nice reputation?

Then, why do so many Western men prefer Thai girls?

Maybe Farangs think that Thai ladies are more submissive than the emancipated crowd they are used to in their home countries.

"Thai" means "free", and free women are not submissive, not at all. Why should they?

Only a small proportion of farang men prefer Thai women. However, for some reason they seem to think everyone else does too.

From my personal observations, I guess about 97% of straight Farang men who are actually in Thailand, prefer a Thai female rather than a Farang female.

Another thing that I have noticed is that out of the full Farang couples living here, a very large percentage of the relationships fail due to the husband going astray.

[MaeJoMTB]

there are plenty of hot farang women over 35 (and plenty of unattractive Thai women under that age).

Typical simplistic Thaivisa thinking.

Just out of interest, how much does your weigh?

(the one you live with, mum or partner, either's weight will do)

[MaeJoMTB]

I guess about 97% of straight Farang men who are actually in Thailand, prefer a Thai female rather than a Farang female.

Not me, same rules for everyone, available for sex, under 35 years old and under 50Kg.

Race, nationality (and if I'm honest gender) not that important.

[JesseLeeOver]

" “Before I conducted this research, I thought that Thai women marry white men from economic necessity, but after I studied the situation, I changed my mind,” said Supichaya, who studied the trend through match-making websites, targeting Thai women and white men. "

I hope her research included more than the above. Perhaps it was but was not reported in this article - quite possible with the very poor state of Thai reporting and journalism.

If it didn't include one on one interviews and focus group interviews and cross group discussions then by most university standards it wouldn't pass.

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As a different angle, within the last 5 years or so i've had maybe 10 to 15 Thai female MBA students ask me how they could meet nice farang men, their own age. In most cases going to bars etc., not within their scope of activities at all.

In 99% of these cases the Thai ladies speak advanced English, very pleasant, like to discuss more wordly things, pretty much open to listen and learn, want to politely express their own thoughts. Not the 'up to you' approach.

At one of my Unis here in Bangkok there are currently 2 young Thai men, MBA students, seriously dating female MBA exchange students from Europe (one from Germany, one from England). Money is not a drawcard in either direction. Both of the Thai men come from comfortable, not rich, families and have good employment

In the last 5 years I've been to 2 such weddings. In both cases Thai lady and western man.

In most of the above cases the Thai parents are initially concerned but after a few meetings with the foreign partner they are quite happy. In one case of marriage the Thai parents and the western parents have become close friends and now visit each other about twice per year.

My Thai wife, 27-years-old, is a medical doctor working on her three-year program to be a specialist. Her friends, plural, (Chinese looking and not) frequently joke around with me asking me about any eligible farangs. As mentioned above, my wife's parents were weary of me, but I would imagine that's pretty normal despite me being an American. Anyway, it is what it is.

[SoiBiker]

Lostoday, I know you mean well and you did your time butwellwe the younger savvy lads wish to see the stigma pass.

You served, great mate; you're not the only one.

......no longer "a country for old men".

I understand what you are saying. The change is not yours or ours to make. Thai women have not changed since the French and Portuguese sailing ships arrived here in the 1500's. I was here in the 1960's and it was the same as today. The old guys were cooler then as they were real adventurous types because the health care and infrastructure was much different.

You want Thai girls to have the same nice reputation as Western girls with none of the feminist bad habits and not at war with the male species like they are in the West. I'm afraid you can't have both.

When I first got here Thailand's women had no more a bad reputation than women from Taiwan, Japan, Korea, or Singapore. The other countries changed - Thailand didn't.

Western girls have a nice reputation?

Then, why do so many Western men prefer Thai girls?

Maybe Farangs think that Thai ladies are more submissive than the emancipated crowd they are used to in their home countries.

"Thai" means "free", and free women are not submissive, not at all. Why should they?

Only a small proportion of farang men prefer Thai women. However, for some reason they seem to think everyone else does too.

From my personal observations, I guess about 97% of straight Farang men who are actually in Thailand, prefer a Thai female rather than a Farang female.

Another thing that I have noticed is that out of the full Farang couples living here, a very large percentage of the relationships fail due to the husband going astray.

I guess it depends where you hang out. If you spend time in places where farang men go to meet Thai women - or where they set up home with them - then of course those are the men you'll meet. Amongst the people I know here, the figure is a lot lower.

I doubt you've surveyed that significant a number of people with failed farang relationships in Thailand, so I'm going to take your second claim with a considerable pinch of salt.

I really don't get this attitude. You fancy Thai women - good for you. But why try and make out that all men do, when it's simply not the case. It's ok for us to have different tastes, surely?

[SoiBiker]

there are plenty of hot farang women over 35 (and plenty of unattractive Thai women under that age).

Typical simplistic Thaivisa thinking.

Just out of interest, how much does your weigh?

(the one you live with, mum or partner, either's weight will do)

I don't know, I've never weighed her. I know some guys here like to quote their partner's weight every time they mention them, but I've always found that a little odd.

My mum's been dead for 25 years, by the way...

Edited August 2, 2015 by SoiBiker

[micmichd]

Lostoday, I know you mean well and you did your time butwellwe the younger savvy lads wish to see the stigma pass.

You served, great mate; you're not the only one.

......no longer "a country for old men".

I understand what you are saying. The change is not yours or ours to make. Thai women have not changed since the French and Portuguese sailing ships arrived here in the 1500's. I was here in the 1960's and it was the same as today. The old guys were cooler then as they were real adventurous types because the health care and infrastructure was much different.

You want Thai girls to have the same nice reputation as Western girls with none of the feminist bad habits and not at war with the male species like they are in the West. I'm afraid you can't have both.

When I first got here Thailand's women had no more a bad reputation than women from Taiwan, Japan, Korea, or Singapore. The other countries changed - Thailand didn't.

Western girls have a nice reputation?

Then, why do so many Western men prefer Thai girls?

Maybe Farangs think that Thai ladies are more submissive than the emancipated crowd they are used to in their home countries.

"Thai" means "free", and free women are not submissive, not at all. Why should they?

Only a small proportion of farang men prefer Thai women. However, for some reason they seem to think everyone else does too.

From my personal observations, I guess about 97% of straight Farang men who are actually in Thailand, prefer a Thai female rather than a Farang female.

Another thing that I have noticed is that out of the full Farang couples living here, a very large percentage of the relationships fail due to the husband going astray.

I guess it depends where you hang out. If you spend time in places where farang men go to meet Thai women - or where they set up home with them - then of course those are the men you'll meet. Amongst the people I know here, the figure is a lot lower.

I doubt you've surveyed that significant a number of people with failed farang relationships in Thailand, so I'm going to take your second claim with a considerable pinch of salt.

I really don't get this attitude. You fancy Thai women - good for you. But why try and make out that all men do, when it's simply not the case. It's ok for us to have different tastes, surely?

It should be oK to have different tastes, but the reality is if you tell some women in the West about Thailand, all that comes into their mind is ladyboys and underage sex, and they build up a strategy on this.

Guess Puddagong was right. Farang women definitely hate Thai ladies when they take away Farang men, their source of income and career. And many Farang men follow them, because they have the public moral on their side.

[SoiBiker]

It should be oK to have different tastes, but the reality is if you tell some women in the West about Thailand, all that comes into their mind is ladyboys and underage sex, and they build up a strategy on this.

Guess Puddagong was right. Farang women definitely hate Thai ladies when they take away Farang men, their source of income and career. And many Farang men follow them, because they have the public moral on their side.

The farang women I know here have Thai female friends. I don't know anyone who lost their man to a Thai woman.

It's a shame that you and your girlfriend experienced prejudice - but it's equally wrong for you to be prejudiced because of this, and let that prejudice blind you to the truth. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[micmichd]

It should be oK to have different tastes, but the reality is if you tell some women in the West about Thailand, all that comes into their mind is ladyboys and underage sex, and they build up a strategy on this.

Guess Puddagong was right. Farang women definitely hate Thai ladies when they take away Farang men, their source of income and career. And many Farang men follow them, because they have the public moral on their side.

The farang women I know here have Thai female friends. I don't know anyone who lost their man to a Thai woman.

It's a shame that you and your girlfriend experienced prejudice - but it's equally wrong for you to be prejudiced because of this, and let that prejudice blind you to the truth. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Good for Thai ladies to make friends with Farang women. Personal contacts usually prevent prejudices.

I'm aware that I generalize, too. But those women in Germany had more than 2 years to excuse themselves. None of them did, they still insist that the common image of Thai women with Farang men is right.

[tonbridgebrit]

It should be oK to have different tastes, but the reality is if you tell some women in the West about Thailand, all that comes into their mind is ladyboys and underage sex, and they build up a strategy on this.

Guess Puddagong was right. Farang women definitely hate Thai ladies when they take away Farang men, their source of income and career. And many Farang men follow them, because they have the public moral on their side.

The farang women I know here have Thai female friends. I don't know anyone who lost their man to a Thai woman.

It's a shame that you and your girlfriend experienced prejudice - but it's equally wrong for you to be prejudiced because of this, and let that prejudice blind you to the truth. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Good for Thai ladies to make friends with Farang women. Personal contacts usually prevent prejudices.

I'm aware that I generalize, too. But those women in Germany had more than 2 years to excuse themselves. None of them did, they still insist that the common image of Thai women with Farang men is right.

Thai ladies have Farang lady friends ? Well, this is sometimes to do with Thai ladies catering for lesbian farang ladies. The Thai lady might be a lesbian herself, or maybe not.

And indeed, lesbian farang ladies with Thai lady friends, there is a growing number of these couples.

[SoiBiker]

It should be oK to have different tastes, but the reality is if you tell some women in the West about Thailand, all that comes into their mind is ladyboys and underage sex, and they build up a strategy on this.

Guess Puddagong was right. Farang women definitely hate Thai ladies when they take away Farang men, their source of income and career. And many Farang men follow them, because they have the public moral on their side.

The farang women I know here have Thai female friends. I don't know anyone who lost their man to a Thai woman.

It's a shame that you and your girlfriend experienced prejudice - but it's equally wrong for you to be prejudiced because of this, and let that prejudice blind you to the truth. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Good for Thai ladies to make friends with Farang women. Personal contacts usually prevent prejudices.

I'm aware that I generalize, too. But those women in Germany had more than 2 years to excuse themselves. None of them did, they still insist that the common image of Thai women with Farang men is right.

Thai ladies have Farang lady friends ? Well, this is sometimes to do with Thai ladies catering for lesbian farang ladies. The Thai lady might be a lesbian herself, or maybe not.

And indeed, lesbian farang ladies with Thai lady friends, there is a growing number of these couples.

Oh please. Not everything is about sex. Some of you guys need to get your minds out of the gutter now and then.

[micmichd]

What comes next?

"All emancipated women are lesbians / perverts", or what?

[SoilSpoil]

It should be oK to have different tastes, but the reality is if you tell some women in the West about Thailand, all that comes into their mind is ladyboys and underage sex, and they build up a strategy on this.

Guess Puddagong was right. Farang women definitely hate Thai ladies when they take away Farang men, their source of income and career. And many Farang men follow them, because they have the public moral on their side.

The farang women I know here have Thai female friends. I don't know anyone who lost their man to a Thai woman.

It's a shame that you and your girlfriend experienced prejudice - but it's equally wrong for you to be prejudiced because of this, and let that prejudice blind you to the truth. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Good for Thai ladies to make friends with Farang women. Personal contacts usually prevent prejudices.

I'm aware that I generalize, too. But those women in Germany had more than 2 years to excuse themselves. None of them did, they still insist that the common image of Thai women with Farang men is right.

Thai ladies have Farang lady friends ? Well, this is sometimes to do with Thai ladies catering for lesbian farang ladies. The Thai lady might be a lesbian herself, or maybe not.

And indeed, lesbian farang ladies with Thai lady friends, there is a growing number of these couples.

It's pretty obvious in which dimension of Thailand you live and think. I can assure you that I live in another reality of this country. As I stated before, living in Thailand is like looking in a mirror, it doesn't lie to you as you choose to see who you are.

[nontabury]

Lostoday, I know you mean well and you did your time butwellwe the younger savvy lads wish to see the stigma pass.

You served, great mate; you're not the only one.

......no longer "a country for old men".

I understand what you are saying. The change is not yours or ours to make. Thai women have not changed since the French and Portuguese sailing ships arrived here in the 1500's. I was here in the 1960's and it was the same as today. The old guys were cooler then as they were real adventurous types because the health care and infrastructure was much different.

You want Thai girls to have the same nice reputation as Western girls with none of the feminist bad habits and not at war with the male species like they are in the West. I'm afraid you can't have both.

When I first got here Thailand's women had no more a bad reputation than women from Taiwan, Japan, Korea, or Singapore. The other countries changed - Thailand didn't.

Western girls have a nice reputation?

Then, why do so many Western men prefer Thai girls?

Maybe Farangs think that Thai ladies are more submissive than the emancipated crowd they are used to in their home countries.

"Thai" means "free", and free women are not submissive, not at all. Why should they?

Only a small proportion of farang men prefer Thai women. However, for some reason they seem to think everyone else does too.

From my personal observations, I guess about 97% of straight Farang men who are actually in Thailand, prefer a Thai female rather than a Farang female.

Another thing that I have noticed is that out of the full Farang couples living here, a very large percentage of the relationships fail due to the husband going astray.

I guess it depends where you hang out. If you spend time in places where farang men go to meet Thai women - or where they set up home with them - then of course those are the men you'll meet. Amongst the people I know here, the figure is a lot lower.

I doubt you've surveyed that significant a number of people with failed farang relationships in Thailand, so I'm going to take your second claim with a considerable pinch of salt.

I really don't get this attitude. You fancy Thai women - good for you. But why try and make out that all men do, when it's simply not the case. It's ok for us to have different tastes, surely?

No I don't hang out where Farang men go to meet Thai women, ie have not been in a bar for 18 months,much prefare to spend my time with my wife and children.As for you mentioning my second claim, it was not a claim but an observation of my many yrs in Thailand, if you wish to disregard it,up to you.

[zierf1]

What is this nonsense?! My wife is a traditional girl from Isaan. She does not have this upper class snob attitude. She is a simple lady. What man wants to marry a rich snob??? All he is going to get is ridiculous income requirements($50k minimum, etc) like we do in the West. I'll have none of it.

Edited August 2, 2015 by zierf1

[huawei]

What is this nonsense?! My wife is a traditional girl from Isaan. She does not have this upper class snob attitude. She is a simple lady. What man wants to marry a rich snob??? All he is going to get is ridiculous income requirements($50k minimum, etc) like we do in the West. I'll have none of it.

How can you be traditional and marry a foreigner..that's an oxymoron.

[micmichd]

It should be oK to have different tastes, but the reality is if you tell some women in the West about Thailand, all that comes into their mind is ladyboys and underage sex, and they build up a strategy on this.

Guess Puddagong was right. Farang women definitely hate Thai ladies when they take away Farang men, their source of income and career. And many Farang men follow them, because they have the public moral on their side.

The farang women I know here have Thai female friends. I don't know anyone who lost their man to a Thai woman.

It's a shame that you and your girlfriend experienced prejudice - but it's equally wrong for you to be prejudiced because of this, and let that prejudice blind you to the truth. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Good for Thai ladies to make friends with Farang women. Personal contacts usually prevent prejudices.

I'm aware that I generalize, too. But those women in Germany had more than 2 years to excuse themselves. None of them did, they still insist that the common image of Thai women with Farang men is right.

Thai ladies have Farang lady friends ? Well, this is sometimes to do with Thai ladies catering for lesbian farang ladies. The Thai lady might be a lesbian herself, or maybe not.

And indeed, lesbian farang ladies with Thai lady friends, there is a growing number of these couples.

Bisexual maybe?

[lostoday]

I dont frequent girlie bars...

Then prepare yourself for the gamut of weird assumptions people will make here - you must be gay, you must be a religious fanatic, you must be married to a 20-stone farang monster, and many more besides.

You cut the quote to change its meaning. The whole quote was, "I found it easier to date girls back home than here in Thailand. I dont frequent girlie bars, do my experience is that western women are more available."

I find people who profess these weird ideas like, "it was easier to date girls back home" there is always a fly in the ointment or something not kosher about them.

In This case I'll bet you the above poster is an old married guy.

Edited August 2, 2015 by lostoday

[SoiBiker]

I think he's right - it is easier to date girls back home.

It's just easier to pay them to have sex with you here.

[MaeJoMTB]

I think he's right - it is easier to date girls back home.

It's just easier to pay them to have sex with you here.

I'm just interested in the sex.

A date is just wasting time (and money) I would rather spend with my mates.