The enduring mystery of flight MH370

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The Enduring Mystery of Flight MH370
The discovery of a plane’s fragment—which could be part of the aircraft that disappeared in March 2014—may not bring closure to the victims’ families.
MATT SCHIAVENZA

WASHINGTON: -- In the 16 months since its disappearance on March 8, 2014, investigators still have not determined what happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. Finally, a promising lead has emerged. On Wednesday, a fragment of a plane’s wing measuring 9 feet by 3 feet washed ashore in Reunion Island, a French territory in the western Indian Ocean.

Investigators say the item—called a “flaperon”—is from a Boeing 777 aircraft, the same type of aircraft as the missing plane. If it’s confirmed to be from MH370, the flaperon would be the first piece of physical evidence discovered since the plane’s disappearance last spring with 239 people on board.

Warren Truss, the Deputy Prime Minister of Australia, said it was too early to judge whether the fragment belonged to plane. “But clearly we are treating this as a major lead,” he said. The flaperon—which contained a number written on its surface that may refer to the item’s maintenance—will be sent to an aviation office in Toulouse, France, for further investigation. Officials say it will be at least a week before the precise identity of the fragment is known.

Full story: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/07/the-enduring-mystery-of-mh-370/400082/

-- The Atlantic 2015-07-31

[Somtamnication]

Super sad for the families going through this "what happened" hell. Someone must know, surely.

[Oziex1]

If I put my tinfoil hat on for a moment i would say something like. Some one in Malaysia knows what happened and are keeping quiet, very quiet.

[lap82]

Must be terrible to live with such a question. I hope they can finally solve this enigma.

[pattayasnowman]

If I put my tinfoil hat on for a moment i would say something like. Some one in Malaysia knows what happened and are keeping quiet, very quiet.

Rubbish !

[pattayasnowman]

For a Very plausible explanation for the MH370 disappearance until if or when the aircraft and black boxes are found Details are here : http://www.iasa-intl.com/folders/mh370/An_MH370_Analysis-of-Likelihoods.htm

But to summarize it is based on two previous incidents :

1.A Destructive B777 oxygen-initiated cockpit fire accident at the departure gate at Cairo on 29 July 2011. (see attached photo)

2 The Helios 737 ghost-flight from Cyprus to Athens. B737 14 August 2005 MH370 suffered an airborne depressurization that could of been caused by the sort of oxy-blowtorch rupture of a pressurized hull - like the holing that was seen on SU-GBP This would be a self extinguishing fire lasting less then a minute once the Hull is breached but causing extensive damage to the flight-deck including circuit breakers accounting for the lost of VHF and the transponder. But apparently not the ACARS . The origination of the fire in the case of SU-GBP was an electrical short circuit in the stiffening wire of the FO Low pressure oxygen supply hose. In the case of MH370 This may have occurred if the Capt was about to leave the Flight Deck . The FO is required to put on the emergency Oxygen Mask. The FO would have been totally incapacitated by this. The Capt also would be in pretty bad shape both probable suffering sever lung searing and going into hypoxia due to the sudden decompression. The Capt or the surviving officer had probably enough time to instinctively perform a turn back and hearing the decompression alarms push the Yoke forward to descend. The descent to 10000ft would not have been completed due to the PF passing out due to hypoxia. On releasing the Yoke and the aircraft not being re-trimmed would climb back to its previous cruising altitude. Apparently the B777 can fly level wings for hrs even when not in Auto Pilot. So the aircraft now flew on as a ghost plane, all the passengers having peacefully succumbed hypoxia and an asphyxia death, until fuel depletion and crashing into the Southern Indian Ocean. The observed course changes are explained by the aircraft entering storm cells in the Malacca Straits and the southern Andaman Sea and being "spat out" in a new heading - courtesy of the B777 highly redundant and unique Active Flight Control System. After the Cairo SU-GBP incident the FAA issued an Airworthiness Directive for several Boeing aircraft for "Oxygen Hose Replacement " within 36 Months This AD is effective September 23, 2014. Subsequent to MHH370 disappearance A new AD effective June 5, 2014. was issued specifically for Boeing Company Model 777F series airplanes for "Oxygen Hose Replacement " SU-GBP Cairo on 29 July 2011

Edited July 31, 2015 by Scott

[phantomfiddler]

The computers in France must be incredibly slow if, knowing the number on the flaperon, it will take a week to determine yeah or nay

[MaxYakov]

For what it's worth:

[khaosai]

For a Very plausible explanation for the MH370 disappearance until if or when the aircraft and black boxes are found Details are here : http://www.iasa-intl.com/folders/mh370/An_MH370_Analysis-of-Likelihoods.htm

But to summarize it is based on two previous incidents :

1.A Destructive B777 oxygen-initiated cockpit fire accident at the departure gate at Cairo on 29 July 2011. (see attached photo)

2 The Helios 737 ghost-flight from Cyprus to Athens. B737 14 August 2005 MH370 suffered an airborne depressurization that could of been caused by the sort of oxy-blowtorch rupture of a pressurized hull - like the holing that was seen on SU-GBP This would be a self extinguishing fire lasting less then a minute once the Hull is breached but causing extensive damage to the flight-deck including circuit breakers accounting for the lost of VHF and the transponder. But apparently not the ACARS . The origination of the fire in the case of SU-GBP was an electrical short circuit in the stiffening wire of the FO Low pressure oxygen supply hose. In the case of MH370 This may have occurred if the Capt was about to leave the Flight Deck . The FO is required to put on the emergency Oxygen Mask. The FO would have been totally incapacitated by this. The Capt also would be in pretty bad shape both probable suffering sever lung searing and going into hypoxia due to the sudden decompression. The Capt or the surviving officer had probably enough time to instinctively perform a turn back and hearing the decompression alarms push the Yoke forward to descend. The descent to 10000ft would not have been completed due to the PF passing out due to hypoxia. On releasing the Yoke and the aircraft not being re-trimmed would climb back to its previous cruising altitude. Apparently the B777 can fly level wings for hrs even when not in Auto Pilot. So the aircraft now flew on as a ghost plane, all the passengers having peacefully succumbed hypoxia and an asphyxia death, until fuel depletion and crashing into the Southern Indian Ocean. The observed course changes are explained by the aircraft entering storm cells in the Malacca Straits and the southern Andaman Sea and being "spat out" in a new heading - courtesy of the B777 highly redundant and unique Active Flight Control System. After the Cairo SU-GBP incident the FAA issued an Airworthiness Directive for several Boeing aircraft for "Oxygen Hose Replacement " within 36 Months This AD is effective September 23, 2014. Subsequent to MHH370 disappearance A new AD effective June 5, 2014. was issued specifically for Boeing Company Model 777F series airplanes for "Oxygen Hose Replacement " oxgen flare fire B777.jpgSU-GBP Cairo on 29 July 2011

The picture of that B777 with the hole in the fuselage is indeed a scary thought but the article itself has lots of inconsistencies in it.

Those turns were deliberate and in no way caused by being "spat out" by weather.

[MaxYakov]

For a Very plausible explanation for the MH370 disappearance until if or when the aircraft and black boxes are found Details are here : http://www.iasa-intl.com/folders/mh370/An_MH370_Analysis-of-Likelihoods.htm

But to summarize it is based on two previous incidents :

1.A Destructive B777 oxygen-initiated cockpit fire accident at the departure gate at Cairo on 29 July 2011. (see attached photo)

2 The Helios 737 ghost-flight from Cyprus to Athens. B737 14 August 2005 MH370 suffered an airborne depressurization that could of been caused by the sort of oxy-blowtorch rupture of a pressurized hull - like the holing that was seen on SU-GBP This would be a self extinguishing fire lasting less then a minute once the Hull is breached but causing extensive damage to the flight-deck including circuit breakers accounting for the lost of VHF and the transponder. But apparently not the ACARS . The origination of the fire in the case of SU-GBP was an electrical short circuit in the stiffening wire of the FO Low pressure oxygen supply hose. In the case of MH370 This may have occurred if the Capt was about to leave the Flight Deck . The FO is required to put on the emergency Oxygen Mask. The FO would have been totally incapacitated by this. The Capt also would be in pretty bad shape both probable suffering sever lung searing and going into hypoxia due to the sudden decompression. The Capt or the surviving officer had probably enough time to instinctively perform a turn back and hearing the decompression alarms push the Yoke forward to descend. The descent to 10000ft would not have been completed due to the PF passing out due to hypoxia. On releasing the Yoke and the aircraft not being re-trimmed would climb back to its previous cruising altitude. Apparently the B777 can fly level wings for hrs even when not in Auto Pilot. So the aircraft now flew on as a ghost plane, all the passengers having peacefully succumbed hypoxia and an asphyxia death, until fuel depletion and crashing into the Southern Indian Ocean. The observed course changes are explained by the aircraft entering storm cells in the Malacca Straits and the southern Andaman Sea and being "spat out" in a new heading - courtesy of the B777 highly redundant and unique Active Flight Control System. After the Cairo SU-GBP incident the FAA issued an Airworthiness Directive for several Boeing aircraft for "Oxygen Hose Replacement " within 36 Months This AD is effective September 23, 2014. Subsequent to MHH370 disappearance A new AD effective June 5, 2014. was issued specifically for Boeing Company Model 777F series airplanes for "Oxygen Hose Replacement " oxgen flare fire B777.jpgSU-GBP Cairo on 29 July 2011

I have to say that Nefertiti was pretty hot!

Since the cause of the SU-GPB oxygen system fire was not actually determined, it was probably because one or both of the crew was smoking in the cockpit, IMHO. It is well known that free oxygen and a source of hydrocarbons, such as that used to lubricate the cockpit window crank, is an extremely flammable condition (this possibility was considered in the final report, below).

It's a bit overdone and inclusive but here is the SU-GPB Final Report for those with severe insomnia.

Occam's razor should be applied liberally to your MH 370 hypothesis. BTW, I wonder if either of the flight deck crew smoked.

Edited July 31, 2015 by MaxYakov

[cookee68]

Just more mystery to the on going mystery, and was this found anywhere near where they are searching, and why is it not in the hands of the malay government, did they not own the plane

[pattayasnowman]

I have to say that Nefertiti was pretty hot!

Since the cause of the SU-GPB oxygen system fire was not actually determined, it was probably because one or both of the crew was smoking in the cockpit, IMHO. It is well known that free oxygen and a source of hydrocarbons, such as that used to lubricate the cockpit window crank, is an extremely flammable condition (this possibility was considered in the final report, below).

It's a bit overdone and inclusive but here is the SU-GPB Final Report for those with severe insomnia.

Occam's razor should be applied liberally to your MH 370 hypothesis. BTW, I wonder if either of the flight deck crew smoked.

Yes window grease was considered and dismissed - from the final report SU-GPB

"It was found that at the flash points of the approved greases were at least 200°F above the highest theoretical temperature for this compartment. Further, the flash point was not affected by oxygen concentration"

[MaxYakov]

I have to say that Nefertiti was pretty hot!

Since the cause of the SU-GPB oxygen system fire was not actually determined, it was probably because one or both of the crew was smoking in the cockpit, IMHO. It is well known that free oxygen and a source of hydrocarbons, such as that used to lubricate the cockpit window crank, is an extremely flammable condition (this possibility was considered in the final report, below).

It's a bit overdone and inclusive but here is the SU-GPB Final Report for those with severe insomnia.

Occam's razor should be applied liberally to your MH 370 hypothesis. BTW, I wonder if either of the flight deck crew smoked.

Yes window grease was considered and dismissed - from the final report SU-GPB

"It was found that at the flash points of the approved greases were at least 200°F above the highest theoretical temperature for this compartment. Further, the flash point was not affected by oxygen concentration"

Yeah, right! The theoretical temperature. Cigarettes burn at 700C (1,292F) give or ake and you know the culprit, if there is one, is not going to admit to one last drag before takeoff.

[Scott]

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