Chinese tourists

[bencottrell]

Not complaining at all, as Chinese tourists have boosted our rental income hugely in July and August

Just wondering what the main Chinese "high season " months are...do they come steadily throughout the year or is it just during our rainy season?

[i claudius]

You must have really cheap short term rentals,that's all they ever want ,terrible tennants ,drunk,noisy and always being complained about by the Thais,and tight as a ducks bottom

[bencottrell]

very helpful answer, i claudius!

anyone have a more educated answer?

[WinnieTheKhwai]

You must have really cheap short term rentals,that's all they ever want ,terrible tennants ,drunk,noisy and always being complained about by the Thais,and tight as a ducks bottom

Not in my experience. Absolutely all our guests from China have been great. The only difference I see is that they're more likely to travel with a bigger group / extended family, so that's sometimes difficult to accommodate. But communications and overall attitude have been great, including leaving things as tidy or even more tidy and clean than Western guests, especially younger Western guests.

I think it actually depends more on the individual demographic than nationality or ethnicity. We get relatively a lot of guests who speak absolutely magnificent English, and work for major corporations in China, as well as young professionals.

As for a high season.. clearly around Chinese New Year and other official holidays (like May 1 / Labor Day) there is an increase, but overall they're travelling more evenly year-round that Westerners, who tend to stick to the traditional winter 'high' season, as well as the European holiday months (July/August).

Chinese tourists are an absolute blessing for tourism in Thailand. Note: specifically independent travellers. The stereotypical tour group troupe I'm not ecstatic about.. but then again group tours tend to attract people with a certain attitude the world over.

[topt]

very helpful answer, i claudius!

anyone have a more educated answer?

The main times for the Chinese to travel abroad are during the various China National holidays of which Chinese New Year (Jan/Feb depending on when it falls) is the longest followed by the Mid Autumn festival. Many businesses/factories close down for 3-4 weeks for Chinese New Year for example.

List here http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/china/ - but suggest you check against other sources.

Older (non working) Chinese of course can travel anytime and will depend on how good the package deals are at their end.

[Howitzer]

You must have really cheap short term rentals,that's all they ever want ,terrible tennants ,drunk,noisy and always being complained about by the Thais,and tight as a ducks bottom

You must have really cheap short term rentals,that's all they ever want ,terrible tennants ,drunk,noisy and always being complained about by the Thais,and tight as a ducks bottom

Not in my experience. Absolutely all our guests from China have been great. The only difference I see is that they're more likely to travel with a bigger group / extended family, so that's sometimes difficult to accommodate. But communications and overall attitude have been great, including leaving things as tidy or even more tidy and clean than Western guests, especially younger Western guests.

I think it actually depends more on the individual demographic than nationality or ethnicity. We get relatively a lot of guests who speak absolutely magnificent English, and work for major corporations in China, as well as young professionals.

As for a high season.. clearly around Chinese New Year and other official holidays (like May 1 / Labor Day) there is an increase, but overall they're travelling more evenly year-round that Westerners, who tend to stick to the traditional winter 'high' season, as well as the European holiday months (July/August).

Chinese tourists are an absolute blessing for tourism in Thailand. Note: specifically independent travellers. The stereotypical tour group troupe I'm not ecstatic about.. but then again group tours tend to attract people with a certain attitude the world over.

see the contrasts here. i claudius is the typical farang with the his "shit don't stink" attitude. As if farang don't complain and get drunk etc.

[tsk3009]

I lived in China two years. Typical Chinese can only travel three times a year, end of April/beginning of May, Chinese New Year (the longest holiday lasting 7 -10 days if I recall correctly), and the holiday in early October. The other two holiday periods are shorter than Chinese New Year. They get about 5 consecutive days off for each. The busiest holiday for vacation travel is the October holiday. For Chinese New Year, most Chinese take part in the largest annual human migration on the planet when they go to their hometowns from the cities.

[sanuk711]

very helpful answer, i claudius!

anyone have a more educated answer?

What's the point of printing anything positive about Chinese tourist when you have Loons" like i claudius--who have no input to the tourist industry posting crap like that---I also have many hotel owner friends who are more than grateful for the influx of them. They get up in the morning a tour bus is waiting for them---& they go look at Thailand--they detour Soi Cowboy or Pattaya soi 6 which means they are very bad for the people that i claudius hangs around with---still rated with Mastercard? visa etc as being one of the higher end tourist------- & defiantly still waiting for a creditable link to say there not....

Note* i claudius...that doesn't mean what the girl with the sick buffalo in the bar is telling you they are .ไม่ใจกว้าง......... give me a link to show what bad spenders they are.................................

[fey]

dunno, i never see them. i think they stay in the room most of the time or go around in groups led by a guide and don't seem to converse with people outside the group.

[Brit_Doggie]

All year no high or low.

In nakula where they visit by the coach load neither do I see drunken or rowdy yes they want something for nothing but don't we all haggle those who have lived in Thailand a number of years, and no they don't spend nights in cheap premises but stay in the better hotels and get pampered at massage parlours and eat in large groups all good for the income of Thailand, 1 classic example marked price of 900 baht for leather bag you give discount as in calculator wrenched from hand showing discount of 100 baht and low and behold 100 baht tops and maybe a freebie thrown in, I love em make me smile daily but one of these days I swear I gonna give em that discount then take a pic of em laying on a stretcher caused by shock.

[NanLaew]

I lived in China two years. Typical Chinese can only travel three times a year, end of April/beginning of May, Chinese New Year (the longest holiday lasting 7 -10 days if I recall correctly), and the holiday in early October. The other two holiday periods are shorter than Chinese New Year. They get about 5 consecutive days off for each. The busiest holiday for vacation travel is the October holiday. For Chinese New Year, most Chinese take part in the largest annual human migration on the planet when they go to their hometowns from the cities.

So, what you are saying is the current plane loads of Chinese visitors aren't 'typical'?

[fey]

I lived in China two years. Typical Chinese can only travel three times a year, end of April/beginning of May, Chinese New Year (the longest holiday lasting 7 -10 days if I recall correctly), and the holiday in early October. The other two holiday periods are shorter than Chinese New Year. They get about 5 consecutive days off for each. The busiest holiday for vacation travel is the October holiday. For Chinese New Year, most Chinese take part in the largest annual human migration on the planet when they go to their hometowns from the cities.

So, what you are saying is the current plane loads of Chinese visitors aren't 'typical'?

Go read the paragraph again. Do it now.

[tsk3009]

I lived in China two years. Typical Chinese can only travel three times a year, end of April/beginning of May, Chinese New Year (the longest holiday lasting 7 -10 days if I recall correctly), and the holiday in early October. The other two holiday periods are shorter than Chinese New Year. They get about 5 consecutive days off for each. The busiest holiday for vacation travel is the October holiday. For Chinese New Year, most Chinese take part in the largest annual human migration on the planet when they go to their hometowns from the cities.

So, what you are saying is the current plane loads of Chinese visitors aren't 'typical'?

Mind you the country has 1.4 billion people. Also, add to that that the dream of all Chinese is to get rich and travel the world. I know I worked with over 3,000 adult students and they all say the same thing. Also, the largest grossing Chinese movie of all time is "Lost in Thailand," which takes place partly in Chiang Mai. So it's kind of like Mecca for Chinese aspiring travelers or "The Beach" to backpackers of yesteryears.

[h90]

You must have really cheap short term rentals,that's all they ever want ,terrible tennants ,drunk,noisy and always being complained about by the Thais,and tight as a ducks bottom

I just saw a group that bought everything that is expensive in a shop......

[tsk3009]

You must have really cheap short term rentals,that's all they ever want ,terrible tennants ,drunk,noisy and always being complained about by the Thais,and tight as a ducks bottom

I just saw a group that bought everything that is expensive in a shop......

iclaudius has a point. Chinese are an interesting dichotomy. They are super frugal and tight in business and in buying everyday things, but then they'll go to Macau and stay in lavish hotels and blow money. They'll buy expensive and often tacky clothing and accessories (I might add) as long as it has LV or Chanel or whatever is most prestigious.

[NanLaew]

I lived in China two years. Typical Chinese can only travel three times a year, end of April/beginning of May, Chinese New Year (the longest holiday lasting 7 -10 days if I recall correctly), and the holiday in early October. The other two holiday periods are shorter than Chinese New Year. They get about 5 consecutive days off for each. The busiest holiday for vacation travel is the October holiday. For Chinese New Year, most Chinese take part in the largest annual human migration on the planet when they go to their hometowns from the cities.

So, what you are saying is the current plane loads of Chinese visitors aren't 'typical'?

Go read the paragraph again. Do it now.

I was aksing tsk... not you. He has lived there for a couple of years whereas I worked there for over 8 years. Trying to suss out why so many can visit Thailand outwith their traditional holiday slots.

[NanLaew]

I lived in China two years. Typical Chinese can only travel three times a year, end of April/beginning of May, Chinese New Year (the longest holiday lasting 7 -10 days if I recall correctly), and the holiday in early October. The other two holiday periods are shorter than Chinese New Year. They get about 5 consecutive days off for each. The busiest holiday for vacation travel is the October holiday. For Chinese New Year, most Chinese take part in the largest annual human migration on the planet when they go to their hometowns from the cities.

So, what you are saying is the current plane loads of Chinese visitors aren't 'typical'?

Mind you the country has 1.4 billion people. Also, add to that that the dream of all Chinese is to get rich and travel the world. I know I worked with over 3,000 adult students and they all say the same thing. Also, the largest grossing Chinese movie of all time is "Lost in Thailand," which takes place partly in Chiang Mai. So it's kind of like Mecca for Chinese aspiring travelers or "The Beach" to backpackers of yesteryears.

That is interesting. When I worked there, I was way out in the boonies and they thought the whole world was China and I must be an ethnic minority Chinese since I looked different and didn't speak Han.

I wonder if their vacations are structured the same way as most of the low-budget Russian tour packages were before that market went to the wall Those unfortunates are probably still paying back the finance packages that allowed them to come over; if their tour companies haven't gone bust already.

[speedtripler]

You must have really cheap short term rentals,that's all they ever want ,terrible tennants ,drunk,noisy and always being complained about by the Thais,and tight as a ducks bottom

If these Chinese are tight, what does that say about the Russians who won't buy a beer if its higher than 7/11 price and even worse, the Indians who share a coca cola between 6?

[NanLaew]

You must have really cheap short term rentals,that's all they ever want ,terrible tennants ,drunk,noisy and always being complained about by the Thais,and tight as a ducks bottom

If these Chinese are tight, what does that say about the Russians who won't buy a beer if its higher than 7/11 price and even worse, the Indians who share a coca cola between 6?

Those were the financed package tour Russians and have been long gone. The Indians are legendary for sharing stuff... even from the coconut bar.

[i claudius]

very helpful answer, i claudius!

anyone have a more educated answer?

Sorry does the truth hurt?

[i claudius]

very helpful answer, i claudius!

anyone have a more educated answer?

What's the point of printing anything positive about Chinese tourist when you have Loons" like i claudius--who have no input to the tourist industry posting crap like that---I also have many hotel owner friends who are more than grateful for the influx of them. They get up in the morning a tour bus is waiting for them---& they go look at Thailand--they detour Soi Cowboy or Pattaya soi 6 which means they are very bad for the people that i claudius hangs around with---still rated with Mastercard? visa etc as being one of the higher end tourist------- & defiantly still waiting for a creditable link to say there not....

Note* i claudius...that doesn't mean what the girl with the sick buffalo in the bar is telling you they are .ไม่ใจกว้าง......... give me a link to show what bad spenders they are.................................

Actually i do know what i am talking about ,my wife is in the rental and sales buisness ,with a reputable company ,and the complaints they have about the Chinese are constant ,and mainly from Thai clients ,so dont bother with your stupid comments about bar girls and sick buffelo ,it just shows off your ignorance.

[fish fingers]

and even worse, the Indians who share a coca cola between 6?

after they've shared the walking street ladyboy

[NanLaew]

very helpful answer, i claudius!

anyone have a more educated answer?

What's the point of printing anything positive about Chinese tourist when you have Loons" like i claudius--who have no input to the tourist industry posting crap like that---I also have many hotel owner friends who are more than grateful for the influx of them. They get up in the morning a tour bus is waiting for them---& they go look at Thailand--they detour Soi Cowboy or Pattaya soi 6 which means they are very bad for the people that i claudius hangs around with---still rated with Mastercard? visa etc as being one of the higher end tourist------- & defiantly still waiting for a creditable link to say there not....

Note* i claudius...that doesn't mean what the girl with the sick buffalo in the bar is telling you they are .ไม่ใจกว้าง......... give me a link to show what bad spenders they are.................................

Actually i do know what i am talking about ,my wife is in the rental and sales buisness ,with a reputable company ,and the complaints they have about the Chinese are constant ,and mainly from Thai clients ,so dont bother with your stupid comments about bar girls and sick buffelo ,it just shows off your ignorance.

Ignorance? Actually, all you are talking about is what your wife claims her Thai clients complain about. There's nothing wrong with quoting anecdotal stories but you are the one claiming them as first-hand experience in this instance.

[i claudius]

very helpful answer, i claudius!

anyone have a more educated answer?

What's the point of printing anything positive about Chinese tourist when you have Loons" like i claudius--who have no input to the tourist industry posting crap like that---I also have many hotel owner friends who are more than grateful for the influx of them. They get up in the morning a tour bus is waiting for them---& they go look at Thailand--they detour Soi Cowboy or Pattaya soi 6 which means they are very bad for the people that i claudius hangs around with---still rated with Mastercard? visa etc as being one of the higher end tourist------- & defiantly still waiting for a creditable link to say there not....

Note* i claudius...that doesn't mean what the girl with the sick buffalo in the bar is telling you they are .ไม่ใจกว้าง......... give me a link to show what bad spenders they are.................................

Actually i do know what i am talking about ,my wife is in the rental and sales buisness ,with a reputable company ,and the complaints they have about the Chinese are constant ,and mainly from Thai clients ,so dont bother with your stupid comments about bar girls and sick buffelo ,it just shows off your ignorance.

Ignorance? Actually, all you are talking about is what your wife claims her Thai clients complain about. There's nothing wrong with quoting anecdotal stories but you are the one claiming them as first-hand experience in this instance.

That's because they are,unlike your experiences

[MaeJoMTB]

What's the point of printing anything positive about Chinese tourist when you have Loons" like i claudius--who have no input to the tourist industry posting crap like that---I also have many hotel owner friends who are more than grateful for the influx of them. They get up in the morning a tour bus is waiting for them---& they go look at Thailand--they detour Soi Cowboy or Pattaya soi 6 which means they are very bad for the people that i claudius hangs around with---still rated with Mastercard? visa etc as being one of the higher end tourist------- & defiantly still waiting for a creditable link to say there not....

Note* i claudius...that doesn't mean what the girl with the sick buffalo in the bar is telling you they are .ไม่ใจกว้าง......... give me a link to show what bad spenders they are.................................

Actually i do know what i am talking about ,my wife is in the rental and sales buisness ,with a reputable company ,and the complaints they have about the Chinese are constant ,and mainly from Thai clients ,so dont bother with your stupid comments about bar girls and sick buffelo ,it just shows off your ignorance.

Ignorance? Actually, all you are talking about is what your wife claims her Thai clients complain about. There's nothing wrong with quoting anecdotal stories but you are the one claiming them as first-hand experience in this instance.

That's because they are,unlike your experiences

@IClaudius

As you don't speak Thai, how can you claim first hand, or do her Thai clients all speak to her in English?

There is a middle man (woman) in there somewhere.

I have no horse in this race,

Don't care 1 way or the other about the Chinese.

But you do seem to be claiming impossible knowledge.

[Howitzer]

I lived in China two years. Typical Chinese can only travel three times a year, end of April/beginning of May, Chinese New Year (the longest holiday lasting 7 -10 days if I recall correctly), and the holiday in early October. The other two holiday periods are shorter than Chinese New Year. They get about 5 consecutive days off for each. The busiest holiday for vacation travel is the October holiday. For Chinese New Year, most Chinese take part in the largest annual human migration on the planet when they go to their hometowns from the cities.

So, what you are saying is the current plane loads of Chinese visitors aren't 'typical'?

Mind you the country has 1.4 billion people. Also, add to that that the dream of all Chinese is to get rich and travel the world. I know I worked with over 3,000 adult students and they all say the same thing. Also, the largest grossing Chinese movie of all time is "Lost in Thailand," which takes place partly in Chiang Mai. So it's kind of like Mecca for Chinese aspiring travelers or "The Beach" to backpackers of yesteryears.

That is interesting. When I worked there, I was way out in the boonies and they thought the whole world was China and I must be an ethnic minority Chinese since I looked different and didn't speak Han.

I wonder if their vacations are structured the same way as most of the low-budget Russian tour packages were before that market went to the wall Those unfortunates are probably still paying back the finance packages that allowed them to come over; if their tour companies haven't gone bust already.

You cannot blame them for thinking you were an ethnic minority. This means you're asian and look east asian. China has a lot of ethnic groups in it. In fact it doesn't lose out to the US in terms of ethnic groups just that places like NYC attract people the world over but it isn't the case in many parts of the US this is the same for China. Anyway the only difference for china is that their ethnic minorities just happen to look kind of chinese that's all.

[NanLaew]

So, what you are saying is the current plane loads of Chinese visitors aren't 'typical'?

Mind you the country has 1.4 billion people. Also, add to that that the dream of all Chinese is to get rich and travel the world. I know I worked with over 3,000 adult students and they all say the same thing. Also, the largest grossing Chinese movie of all time is "Lost in Thailand," which takes place partly in Chiang Mai. So it's kind of like Mecca for Chinese aspiring travelers or "The Beach" to backpackers of yesteryears.

That is interesting. When I worked there, I was way out in the boonies and they thought the whole world was China and I must be an ethnic minority Chinese since I looked different and didn't speak Han.

I wonder if their vacations are structured the same way as most of the low-budget Russian tour packages were before that market went to the wall Those unfortunates are probably still paying back the finance packages that allowed them to come over; if their tour companies haven't gone bust already.

You cannot blame them for thinking you were an ethnic minority. This means you're asian and look east asian. China has a lot of ethnic groups in it. In fact it doesn't lose out to the US in terms of ethnic groups just that places like NYC attract people the world over but it isn't the case in many parts of the US this is the same for China. Anyway the only difference for china is that their ethnic minorities just happen to look kind of chinese that's all.

But there's no Asian genetics in me. I am born and bred in Scotland; more Sean Connery than Jackie Chan. This was where no gweilo had gone before but the assumption of the locals that China is the whole world and me and my US born, caucasian, multi-lingual interpreter (10 years at Beijing Language Institute) must be from a part of China that they hadn't been to yet. Telling them that we were Scottish and American got the old "Shénme?" and vacant looks?

Jim (the interpreter) had fun with an old lady at a watermelon stand where they were happily chatting away in local dialect. She asked him where I was from since I was so quiet. Jim said that I had fallen from the sky just outside the village and they stopped and picked me up in the truck. "That was nice of you" was her only response.

[richard10365]

About the OP....you can find the statistics you need here.

http://www.tourism.go.th/home/listcontent/11/221/276

[BeefSlapper]

I dont find chinese useful at all.

They just follow flag in groups in pattaya and dont go in any business at all. They follow flag in walking street and dont get in to clubs bars and agogos for example, when u go to WS u will see like 7 groups following flags, so say per day theres 500-700 of them but none spend any money apart 711. They got everything organized, guide takes them to preselected places to eat etc.

They exchange money with guide too.

[metisdead]

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