148.240 Thais work overseas

[webfact]

JOBS
148.240 Thais work overseas
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- At the end of June, a number of 148,240 Thai workers have been working overseas, according to the Labour Ministry.

The top five destinations are Taiwan (59,021 workers), Malaysia (38,824), Singapore(36,000), Israel (25,824) and South Korea (22,825).

As of June, a number of 12,628 people registered for open job positions, 77.4 per cent being male labourers. In the month, 1,107 workers completed the job-search process and sent overseas.

According to deputy permanent secretary for labour Arak Prommanee, these workers enjoyed a sharp decrease in expenses when seeking overseas jobs through the ministry. For example, to reach Israel, now they pay only Bt76.500 each while job placement agencies usually charge Bt300,000.

Thai workers in June repatriated income worth Bt6.7 billion to Thailand. The sum showed a 6.6 per cent decrease from Bt7.19 billion in the same month last year.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/148-240-Thais-work-overseas-30266445.html


-- The Nation 2015-08-12

[clockman]

Makes you wonder!

[Jingthing]

I had thought much more.

[Misterwhisper]

How about Thai hookers and "massage therapists" that can be found practically everywhere from Argentina to Zimbabwe? Do they use the ministry's job placement assistance, too? if so, the figure of 148,240 seems way, way, way too low. Singapore alone has that many.

[DP25]

I had thought much more.

Well, it's nothing compared to the 10 million Filipinos that work abroad, but it is more than 148,240

The top five destinations are Taiwan (59,021 workers), Malaysia (38,824), Singapore(36,000), Israel (25,824) and South Korea (22,825).

The top 5 add up to 182,494

Edited August 12, 2015 by DP25

[puukao]

Many Thais own restaurants in America. Many making TENS of thousands a month...

while the only job expats can get is a 900 dollar a month gig teaching English...

LOL

[Thian]

Thai pay 300.000 baht to an agency to find them a job abroad?

yeah right......

To reach Israel they pay 76.000......Pay for what? For the ticket?

[ratcatcher]

Many Thais own restaurants in America. Many making TENS of thousands a month...

while the only job expats can get is a 900 dollar a month gig teaching English...

LOL

Would it be fair to say that the Thai restaurant owners making tens of thousands of dollars a month have either citizenship or green cards as opposed to the farangs resident in Thailand merely having permission to abide in the Kingdom one year at a time?

Mangoes and durian.

[Soutpeel]

Many Thais own restaurants in America. Many making TENS of thousands a month...

while the only job expats can get is a 900 dollar a month gig teaching English...

LOL

Would it be fair to say that the Thai restaurant owners making tens of thousands of dollars a month have either citizenship or green cards as opposed to the farangs resident in Thailand merely having permission to abide in the Kingdom one year at a time?

Mangoes and durian.

I think it also fair to say there are some very high paying jobs for farangs in Thailand if you have the skills/knowlege/ experience they are looking for

The 900 USD/m jobs are typically for people with no marketable skills and are desperate to stay in Thailand at all costs

[slapout]

There are quite a number of Thai's who have overstayed their visa in the US which was issued to travel to see family, friend, help set up/build a temple, go to school of some sort etc.

I know a couple who got caught out on overstay, returned to Thailand, change name, get new pasport and got caught when they applied for visa under new name.(denied) there are probably some who made it but the vetting is getting tougher every time another one screws /cheats the system. .

They are there own worst enemy when it comes to international travel to many countries, but try to explain that to them after being raised in the thai system of thumbing your nose at authority , rules and laws of the land.

[Soutpeel]

Thai pay 300.000 baht to an agency to find them a job abroad?

yeah right......

To reach Israel they pay 76.000......Pay for what? For the ticket?

I dont know if the 300k quoted is 100% correct but i do know some people pay considerable amounts of cash to agents to get them jobs oversea's its not just the cost of tickets, it the cost of visa/WP and obviously a big profit for the agent

To put thing in comparison, when i went to work in the US for a couple of years it cost the company all told nearly 15k USD to get everything set up + cost of air ticket etc and that was back in 2000, so could 300k Thb be believable ? Yes it could

[BuddhistVirus]

'148.240 Thais work overseas'

The top five destinations are Taiwan (59,021 workers), Malaysia (38,824), Singapore(36,000), Israel (25,824) and South Korea (22,825).

Top five alone total 182,494?

[ratcatcher]

'148.240 Thais work overseas'

The top five destinations are Taiwan (59,021 workers), Malaysia (38,824), Singapore(36,000), Israel (25,824) and South Korea (22,825).

Top five alone total 182,494?

Funny that, post #5 said the same thing. Calculators must be synced.

[djjamie]

I have 4 Thai mechanics working for me in South Sudan. I pay them $100usd a day or 10 times the minimum wage of Thailand give or take.

South Sudan is full of Thai's actually mainly in the vehicle repair industry.

Should see the amount of Thai business men that get on the flight at Addis, Ethiopia. I would say the flight is 30% Thai citizens.

[Fat Haggis]

That's a pretty good daily rate young man, it's more than the average worker in the UK earns, prior to doing private security I was making about the same.

I'm a firm believer in a fair wage for a fair days work, got to take care of your assets indeed.

[AlQaholic]

HR export, hadn't thought about that before, but it is potentially a big thing as most of the moneys earned goes back into the Thai economy.

[micmichd]

There are various profit models for the agents.

They can want a fee for getting a job (a contract), they can want a fee for the working permit, and/or they can take a part of the worker's income. Some get you a flat, and you'll probably be charged for this service, too. Plus the cost for a visa, plus the ticket.

Once you're abroad, you might face a tax & social security bureaucracy that even a native couldn't cope with, so you need a specialist for this.

So, the "transaction costs" might well add up to 300kb per year, depending on the country where the immigrant works. There are Thai communities in some countries (eg in Holland), guess it's very helpful to get in contact with those. And, of course, contact with natives in these countries (Farangs) might be helpful, too.

[fred Kubasa]

I believe there are over 200.000 in the US alone and they should be fined/jailed/deported same as US ex-pats are treated

in Thailand.

[Soutpeel]

I believe there are over 200.000 in the US alone and they should be fined/jailed/deported same as US ex-pats are treated

in Thailand.

You mean fined thb THB 20k ($600) and let back in ?

I agreed US expats in Thailand who overstay should be fined, jailed and deported and declared PNG.for at least 10 years

Edited August 13, 2015 by Soutpeel

[micmichd]

I believe there are over 200.000 in the US alone and they should be fined/jailed/deported same as US ex-pats are treated

in Thailand.

You mean fined thb THB 20k ($600) and let back in ?

I agreed US expats in Thailand who overstay should be fined, jailed and deported and declared PNG.for at least 10 years

Guess you would not say so if you knew the situation of some expats here.

Some are freelancers for international companies and conly stay in Thailand with their families / gfs in between two jobs. There's always the risk that something not foreseeable might happen and you have a small delay. Then you do overstay, pay your fee, and that's it.

Fortunately Thai immigration is more liberal than some Farang hard-core law and order fetishists here.

Wish you good luck if you ever need an overstay because of an accident.

Edited August 13, 2015 by micmichd

[wabothai]

probably more than a million folks.

The given figure needs interpretation.

Edited August 13, 2015 by wabothai

[Soutpeel]

I believe there are over 200.000 in the US alone and they should be fined/jailed/deported same as US ex-pats are treated

in Thailand.

You mean fined thb THB 20k ($600) and let back in ?

I agreed US expats in Thailand who overstay should be fined, jailed and deported and declared PNG.for at least 10 years

Guess you would not say so if you knew the situation of some expats here.

Some are freelancers for international companies and conly stay in Thailand with their families / gfs in between two jobs. There's always the risk that something not foreseeable might happen and you have a small delay. Then you do overstay, pay your fee, and that's it.

Fortunately Thai immigration is more liberal than some Farang hard-core law and order fetishists here.

Wish you good luck if you ever need an overstay because of an accident.

I think the sarcasm in my post went right over your head me thinks

But to answer your last point, if i do happen to end up in an accident the company i work will do what needs to be done so would say highly unlikely i would end up on overstay as i have a plan in place

Fact is no one ever "needs" to overstay people end up in that situation due to lack of planning

Edited August 13, 2015 by Soutpeel

[Jimlove]

I believe there are over 200.000 in the US alone and they should be fined/jailed/deported same as US ex-pats are treated

in Thailand.

I just wish thais would be treated as shitty in other immigrations as foreigners are here - In my homecountry a thai married to a national would get same rights as the nationals incl. free healthcare etc. but TiT (can just get out right ... haha)

[ikke]

'148.240 Thais work overseas'

The top five destinations are Taiwan (59,021 workers), Malaysia (38,824), Singapore(36,000), Israel (25,824) and South Korea (22,825).

Top five alone total 182,494?

yeah, but none of this countries is overseas .....

Remember the Gen. his first overseas trip was to Myanmar....

[Nice Boyd]

Thai pay 300.000 baht to an agency to find them a job abroad?

yeah right......

To reach Israel they pay 76.000......Pay for what? For the ticket?

I dont know if the 300k quoted is 100% correct but i do know some people pay considerable amounts of cash to agents to get them jobs oversea's its not just the cost of tickets, it the cost of visa/WP and obviously a big profit for the agent

To put thing in comparison, when i went to work in the US for a couple of years it cost the company all told nearly 15k USD to get everything set up + cost of air ticket etc and that was back in 2000, so could 300k Thb be believable ? Yes it could

my GF sister is paying 230,000 baht to go work in Japan , flight is extra

[Soutpeel]

I believe there are over 200.000 in the US alone and they should be fined/jailed/deported same as US ex-pats are treated

in Thailand.

I just wish thais would be treated as shitty in other immigrations as foreigners are here - In my homecountry a thai married to a national would get same rights as the nationals incl. free healthcare etc. but TiT (can just get out right ... haha)

Foreigners are not treated shitty in Thaiand in comparsion with some places i have lived and and worked in over the years your delusional or naive, but unlike some thais who have ended up in servitude in some contries,

you do have a choice if your feeling hard done by in Thailand you can always get on a plane and go somewhere else

Edited August 13, 2015 by Soutpeel

[micmichd]

I believe there are over 200.000 in the US alone and they should be fined/jailed/deported same as US ex-pats are treated

in Thailand.[/quote?

I just wish thais would be treated as shitty in other immigrations as foreigners are here - In my homecountry a thai married to a national would get same rights as the nationals incl. free healthcare etc. but TiT (can just get out right ... haha)

In "my home" country my Thai gf and me would have no rights at all.

Edited August 13, 2015 by micmichd

[MartinBangkok]

So Taiwan is the place to find a sexy and at the same time intelligent Thai lady. (she knows where the business is good)

[Walter Travolta]

I believe there are over 200.000 in the US alone and they should be fined/jailed/deported same as US ex-pats are treated

in Thailand.

Think you need to sort out the Mexicans first living in those so called safe cities like SF where that poor girl was shot dead by the illegal immigrant who had been deported around 6 times and spent time in the shovel?

Im not having a go at Americans, Im having a go at the dix who are in charge of running the country

A bit like the UK where Europeans are taking day trips to the UK and registering with a GP (doctor), going home and claiming medical attention via the NHS at the cost of the British taxpayer to the tune of £800m a year!!! Beggars belief that people who 'run' countries have less common sense than a spoon

[MW72]

I have 4 Thai mechanics working for me in South Sudan. I pay them $100usd a day or 10 times the minimum wage of Thailand give or take.

South Sudan is full of Thai's actually mainly in the vehicle repair industry.

Should see the amount of Thai business men that get on the flight at Addis, Ethiopia. I would say the flight is 30% Thai citizens.

That's a hell of a good wage. I know companies are paying Filipinos and Indians anywhere between $600 - $1,000 a month for mechanics, electricians etc in Afghanistan. Not good T&Cs either. Work 7 days a week, 182 days on 21 off.

I once had a chat with the son of a woman who owns an employment agency in BKK. He told me they find Thais struggle abroad as a lot of them get home sick and they are very particular about there diet. They had people in Libya and Saudi at the time and he said that they insisted a Thai chef was sent out to feed the workers. I have never worked with Thais before but I am surprised I haven't come across more. As another poster pointed out there are over 10 million Filipinos working overseas and sending the money back home to be invested in their economy.