webfact Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Thaksin could sue over stripping of police rank: WissanuANAPAT DEECHUAYTHE NATIONBANGKOK: -- FORMER prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra could file a lawsuit against the Royal Thai Police if he is dissatisfied with the government's decision to strip him of his police rank, Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam suggested yesterday.After meeting with all concern agencies on the matter, Justice Minister Paiboon Koomchaya recommended to the police chief on behalf of Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha that Thaksin be stripped of his rank over his conviction in 2008 of abuse of power while he was the premier.Paiboon's recommendation was advised by the Council of State.Wissanu said it was the council's duty to interpret the law only, not to actually order that Thaksin's rank be revoked.Pol Lt-General Pravut Thawornsiri, spokesman of the Royal Thai Police, yesterday remained tight-lipped following Thaksin's challenge to strip him of his rank quickly.He said national police chief General Somyot Poompanmuang had been waiting for Pol General Chaiya Siriampankul, chairman of the commission that looks into the revoking of ranks, to report the result of Tuesday's meeting at the Justice Ministry before taking further action.The meeting agreed that Thaksin's rank of police lieutenant colonel could be revoked as it met the criteria.The move to strip Thaksin of his rank began after the fugitive telecoms tycoon was convicted in a land-deal case in 2008 but fled the country to escape justice. The idea gained further impetus early this year when Thaksin commented of last year's coup during an interview in South Korea.In May, Somyot set up a panel to work on the case in May but little headway was made as Somyot was unsure whether the rank of a retired police officer could be revoked.Pravut said 636 police officers have had their ranks revoked but they were all active in the force at the time. Thaksin would be the first retired officer to have his rank revoked.Maj General Sansern Kaewkamnerd, the government's deputy spokesperson, said the prime minister was not worried about an impending lawsuit by Thaksin since he did not exert his influence in the case and simply let the law take its course."The prime minister has always stressed that the issue was sensitive and he did not want to apply any special power to finish the case, but let the law take its course, clearly and in a transparent manner," said Sansern.Prayut yesterday said the only sticking point in the case had been resolved. From now on, it would follow procedure with the concerned agencies submitting the case to him."Now, I can only wait for them," said Prayut.Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said he saw nothing wrong with the resolution of the meeting as it was based on legal interpretation, not feelings. He urged Thaksin's supporters to understand the point and stressed that the government did not wish to see a conflict arise as a result.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Thaksin-could-sue-over-stripping-of-police-rank-Wi-30266457.html-- The Nation 2015-08-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
american12bthai Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Thaksin can use his meat puppets to toy play his games, but in the end can people runnign form the law sue? cause i bet this will open a new door for thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Sick ! A convicted felon on the run may have his honorary police rank removed after a childish and unnecessary song and dance and people avoiding taking the decision yet Mr. T can sue if he's unhappy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Is it customary that a person holding a rank but convicted of a criminal offence after leaving service keeps his rank? If so, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Thaksin can use his meat puppets to toy play his games, but in the end can people runnign form the law sue? cause i bet this will open a new door for thailand. Unfortunately TIT, anything can happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 they may tell him if you want to sue you must be in Thailand.but he lost thai passport what can he do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seastallion Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Sick ! A convicted felon on the run may have his honorary police rank removed after a childish and unnecessary song and dance and people avoiding taking the decision yet Mr. T can sue if he's unhappy ! Let him sue. In person. But what legal grounds to sue if the stripping of his rank is lawful and proper? Edited August 12, 2015 by Seastallion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seastallion Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I'm not clear on "Thaksin could sue". Is it a statement of caution, or is it a confident invitation in the vein of "Come on, try it, just try it, I dare ya."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 they may tell him if you want to sue you must be in Thailand.but he lost thai passport what can he do He's got several others to choose from, not that he'll be in a hurry to come back until he can do so on his terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Presumably for the traditional Billion-Baht he usually seeks ? Oh well, I guess it's one way, to get rich after six months ! Amazing Thailand, as usual ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Guy's the OP suggests that Thaksin could sue if he wants to, Now according to other info I have heard (the missus) Thaksin has said if you want to take then go ahead, if this will help the people, no problem. Now remember this is first, others have had their ranks revoked while still in active service and NOT retired, much like impeaching a former PM and former MP's that do not hold office. Also just what has this achieved? They call again and again to stop talking about Mr T. and let him just disappear into the distance and become irrelevant, But the next day they put him back into the news, There seems to be a political will to keep him in the news, why? IMO the boogieman syndrome. Personally, let the rule of law be followed and be seen to be followed without bias, that is one of the major stumbling blocks that Thailand has, "All are equal in the eyes of the law, some are more equal"............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Is it customary that a person holding a rank but convicted of a criminal offence after leaving service keeps his rank? If so, why? From the article... Pravut said 636 police officers have had their ranks revoked but they were all active in the force at the time. Thaksin would be the first retired officer to have his rank revoked. So yes, it seems "customary". Can't answer the "why" part, but many, many, many, many Thai politicians, army, coup leaders, murderers, embezzlers with Royally-bestowed honorifics have done a runner over the last 100 years, waited out their Statute of Limitations, then returned, with titles and honors intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilymat Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 It sure is hard to understand things at times. Was he once a cop?. In this land of 2000 generals, he only has the 'rank' of Lt Colonel ?. Why does it matter to him anyway ?. I give up trying to understand the importance of this issue - to both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melovethai Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Thailand's public figure of corruption. The country is better moving forward and leaving all the crap behind, especially him and the Family. If he really looked after Thailand's interest he would still be here with all his merits. Thaksin mentioned take it away if it helps the people, no problem, so keep him away as it will help the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Guy's the OP suggests that Thaksin could sue if he wants to, Now according to other info I have heard (the missus) Thaksin has said if you want to take then go ahead, if this will help the people, no problem. Now remember this is first, others have had their ranks revoked while still in active service and NOT retired, much like impeaching a former PM and former MP's that do not hold office. Also just what has this achieved? They call again and again to stop talking about Mr T. and let him just disappear into the distance and become irrelevant, But the next day they put him back into the news, There seems to be a political will to keep him in the news, why? IMO the boogieman syndrome. Personally, let the rule of law be followed and be seen to be followed without bias, that is one of the major stumbling blocks that Thailand has, "All are equal in the eyes of the law, some are more equal"............... "Thaksin has said if you want to take then go ahead, if this will help the people, no problem." The usual obfuscation. The stripping of his rank has no relation with helping the people. It's just a consequence of his being a convict. In English I think that's called "trying to smile when you feel like crying" with a bit of trying to ignore the law thrown in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Sick ! A convicted felon on the run may have his honorary police rank removed after a childish and unnecessary song and dance and people avoiding taking the decision yet Mr. T can sue if he's unhappy ! Does he still get paid up until his rank is stripped maybe they will pay him a lump sum in compensation for loss of earnings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 It sure is hard to understand things at times. Was he once a cop?. In this land of 2000 generals, he only has the 'rank' of Lt Colonel ?. Why does it matter to him anyway ?. I give up trying to understand the importance of this issue - to both sides. Extreem loss of face resulting in......the lord knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 PM strips, deputy Pm says T. can sue. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksamuiguy Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 A convicted felon has no rights. I'd Go For It! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Sick ! A convicted felon on the run may have his honorary police rank removed after a childish and unnecessary song and dance and people avoiding taking the decision yet Mr. T can sue if he's unhappy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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