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My girlfriend and I had a little agruement and her friend phoned her and she mentioned me as farang not her boyfriend? Do u think I'm over reacting by going over the top about this?

So "before the arguement " she call you Darling and " after the agruement "she mention you as Farang ( culture difference )cos she angry with you at that time . i think thats ok .

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My girlfriend and I had a little agruement and her friend phoned her and she mentioned me as farang not her boyfriend? Do u think I'm over reacting by going over the top about this?

So "before the arguement " she call you Darling and " after the agruement "she mention you as Farang ( culture difference )cos she angry with you at that time . i think thats ok .

And thats the question in a nushell, if she calls by your name, darling etc and then when she has a strop on starts referring to you as farang then it does seem obvious there is a negative, derogatory connotation to the word "farang"

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Lets turn this question around

According to thaivisa experts, Thais are the most racist and xenophobic people on the planet (TV posters words not mine) and they have derogatory names for people of various creeds and colors who are not Thai's, so if Farang is not intended as generalised disrespectful or derogatory term for the lilly whites, what is common generalised derogatory term used for the lilly whites then in Thailand ? Or are posters going to naively suggest the lilly whites are loved so much and are such hansum man there is no term given its the same lilly whites who state thais are so racist

Not me but I have heard Thaivisa experts call that term, "anget." I don't know what it means I'm only quoting the Thai Visa experts.

My experience has been that Farang get paid more than Thai people for almost every job where they compete so I can only think the Farang are more valuable to Thai people than Thais.

You mean "angrit" ? thats " English " so they are referring to nationality or the language itself not an all emcompassing general term for the lilly whites

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My girlfriend and I had a little agruement and her friend phoned her and she mentioned me as farang not her boyfriend? Do u think I'm over reacting by going over the top about this?

So "before the arguement " she call you Darling and " after the agruement "she mention you as Farang ( culture difference )cos she angry with you at that time . i think thats ok .

And thats the question in a nushell, if she calls by your name, darling etc and then when she has a strop on starts referring to you as farang then it does seem obvious there is a negative, derogatory connotation to the word "farang"

Given the situation in this instance I would have to agree.

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My girlfriend and I had a little agruement and her friend phoned her and she mentioned me as farang not her boyfriend? Do u think I'm over reacting by going over the top about this?

So "before the arguement " she call you Darling and " after the agruement "she mention you as Farang ( culture difference )cos she angry with you at that time . i think thats ok .

And thats the question in a nushell, if she calls by your name, darling etc and then when she has a strop on starts referring to you as farang then it does seem obvious there is a negative, derogatory connotation to the word "farang"

Given the situation in this instance I would have to agree.

Except that is not what the GF said.

The OP wrote, "My girlfriend and I had a little agruement and her friend phoned her and she mentioned me as farang not her boyfriend? Do u think I'm over reacting by going over the top about this?" Stop.

That is all the OP wrote.

The other stuff was made up by another poster.

Now what do you think?

The OP has not been back after he wrote the above.

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My girlfriend and I had a little agruement and her friend phoned her and she mentioned me as farang not her boyfriend? Do u think I'm over reacting by going over the top about this?

So "before the arguement " she call you Darling and " after the agruement "she mention you as Farang ( culture difference )cos she angry with you at that time . i think thats ok .

And thats the question in a nushell, if she calls by your name, darling etc and then when she has a strop on starts referring to you as farang then it does seem obvious there is a negative, derogatory connotation to the word "farang"
Given the situation in this instance I would have to agree.

Except that is not what the GF said.

The OP wrote, "My girlfriend and I had a little agruement and her friend phoned her and she mentioned me as farang not her boyfriend? Do u think I'm over reacting by going over the top about this?" Stop.

That is all the OP wrote.

The other stuff was made up by another poster.

Now what do you think?

The OP has not been back after he wrote the above.

I have no input regarding the OP,and what his GF wishes to call him over the phone is her business.

I was referring to whereby after becoming annoyed Thai people and in the above instance the girlfriend starts yelling Farang this and Farang that due to duress.

That to me would imply she was referring to him in a more derogatory manner than if she said to him for example will we eat Thai food tonight darling or Farang food.

There are IMO times and places whereby using Farang can be seen as a slur but not all the time.

It's much the same if I was driving down the road whereby someone cut me up badly and I yell <deleted>stupid Thais as opposed to <deleted> idiot.

It can become interpreted differently depending on the situation that it is being used in.

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So your here because you love thailand or you love thai puss I think it is because of the puss one thing you all have to lean thai women are with you for a good life and your money when you all understand that you will like it here more and I not get upset if I am called a farang not care but if my thai gf called me a farang I not like It I refer to her as her name if I am talking about her that is respect.

Congratulations to the guy who thinks every Thai woman is only with you for your money. Learn to broaden your social circles, if you can, which judging by your post you can't so enjoy hanging out with people who are trying to take advantage of you and relax in your ignorance is bliss bubble while those of us who bothered to learn the language and engage with the culture get on with our lives.

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I have no input regarding the OP,and what his GF wishes to call him over the phone is her business.

I was referring to whereby after becoming annoyed Thai people and in the above instance the girlfriend starts yelling Farang this and Farang that due to duress.

That to me would imply she was referring to him in a more derogatory manner than if she said to him for example will we eat Thai food tonight darling or Farang food.

There are IMO times and places whereby using Farang can be seen as a slur but not all the time.

It's much the same if I was driving down the road whereby someone cut me up badly and I yell <deleted> stupid Thais as opposed to <deleted>diot.

It can become interpreted differently depending on the situation that it is being used in.

Oh sorry I thought you were commenting on this thread and the topic that you quoted in your response.

My girlfriend and I had a little agruement and her friend phoned her and she mentioned me as farang not her boyfriend? Do u think I'm over reacting by going over the top about this?

So "before the arguement " she call you Darling and " after the agruement "she mention you as Farang ( culture difference )cos she angry with you at that time . i think thats ok .

And thats the question in a nushell, if she calls by your name, darling etc and then when she has a strop on starts referring to you as farang then it does seem obvious there is a negative, derogatory connotation to the word "farang"

Stoneyboy Given the situation in this instance I would have to agree.

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My girlfriend and I had a little agruement and her friend phoned her and she mentioned me as farang not her boyfriend? Do u think I'm over reacting by going over the top about this?

So "before the arguement " she call you Darling and " after the agruement "she mention you as Farang ( culture difference )cos she angry with you at that time . i think thats ok .

And thats the question in a nushell, if she calls by your name, darling etc and then when she has a strop on starts referring to you as farang then it does seem obvious there is a negative, derogatory connotation to the word "farang"

Do you think Itsmylife is quoting the OP? Because he has added the whole bottom paragraph which was not part of the OP.

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I just asked my wife about this. She says it shows a lack of respect. I would never call her "Asian girl" in a conversation. Only her name or refer to her as my wife. She does the same. Mutual respect.

You need to distinguish between nouns and adjectives.

Nouns

1. I hate farangs.

2. Why are farangs in Thailand so fat?

3. Do farangs whinge as much in their own countries as they do here in Thailand?

Adjectives

1. Do you like farang food?

2. What percentage of Thai girls has a farang boyfriend?

3. I had a farang teacher when I learned English at school.

Used as an adjective, the word is harmless. It's also generally innocuous when used as a noun. I've met several older men, however, whose (Isaan) wives referred to them as "the farang" or "the bakseedaa". This is disrespectful, but most elderly westerners married to Isaan women are too stupid to know or care.

If anything, this thread highlights those who can and who cannot speak Thai.

Why do I NEVER hear the word farang used on the news channels?

As yes, bakseeda, excellent observation.

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I just asked my wife about this. She says it shows a lack of respect. I would never call her "Asian girl" in a conversation. Only her name or refer to her as my wife. She does the same. Mutual respect.

You need to distinguish between nouns and adjectives.

Nouns

1. I hate farangs.

2. Why are farangs in Thailand so fat?

3. Do farangs whinge as much in their own countries as they do here in Thailand?

Adjectives

1. Do you like farang food?

2. What percentage of Thai girls has a farang boyfriend?

3. I had a farang teacher when I learned English at school.

Used as an adjective, the word is harmless. It's also generally innocuous when used as a noun. I've met several older men, however, whose (Isaan) wives referred to them as "the farang" or "the bakseedaa". This is disrespectful, but most elderly westerners married to Isaan women are too stupid to know or care.

If anything, this thread highlights those who can and who cannot speak Thai.

Why do I NEVER hear the word farang used on the news channels?

As yes, bakseeda, excellent observation.

New trend of young, educated Thai women with farang husbands emerges: researcher

http://news.thaivisa.com/thailand/new-trend-of-young-educated-thai-women-with-farang-husbands-emerges-researcher/109615/

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I just asked my wife about this. She says it shows a lack of respect. I would never call her "Asian girl" in a conversation. Only her name or refer to her as my wife. She does the same. Mutual respect.

You need to distinguish between nouns and adjectives.

Nouns

1. I hate farangs.

2. Why are farangs in Thailand so fat?

3. Do farangs whinge as much in their own countries as they do here in Thailand?

Adjectives

1. Do you like farang food?

2. What percentage of Thai girls has a farang boyfriend?

3. I had a farang teacher when I learned English at school.

Used as an adjective, the word is harmless. It's also generally innocuous when used as a noun. I've met several older men, however, whose (Isaan) wives referred to them as "the farang" or "the bakseedaa". This is disrespectful, but most elderly westerners married to Isaan women are too stupid to know or care.

If anything, this thread highlights those who can and who cannot speak Thai.

Why do I NEVER hear the word farang used on the news channels?

As yes, bakseeda, excellent observation.

New trend of young, educated Thai women with farang husbands emerges: researcher

http://news.thaivisa.com/thailand/new-trend-of-young-educated-thai-women-with-farang-husbands-emerges-researcher/109615/

Haven't we already had a whole thread on that? And what does it have to do with the topic at hand anyway?

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You need to distinguish between nouns and adjectives.

Nouns

1. I hate farangs.

2. Why are farangs in Thailand so fat?

3. Do farangs whinge as much in their own countries as they do here in Thailand?

Adjectives

1. Do you like farang food?

2. What percentage of Thai girls has a farang boyfriend?

3. I had a farang teacher when I learned English at school.

Used as an adjective, the word is harmless. It's also generally innocuous when used as a noun. I've met several older men, however, whose (Isaan) wives referred to them as "the farang" or "the bakseedaa". This is disrespectful, but most elderly westerners married to Isaan women are too stupid to know or care.

If anything, this thread highlights those who can and who cannot speak Thai.

Why do I NEVER hear the word farang used on the news channels?

As yes, bakseeda, excellent observation.

New trend of young, educated Thai women with farang husbands emerges: researcher

http://news.thaivisa.com/thailand/new-trend-of-young-educated-thai-women-with-farang-husbands-emerges-researcher/109615/

Haven't we already had a whole thread on that? And what does it have to do with the topic at hand anyway?

The poster that I was responding to wrote, "Why do I NEVER hear the word farang used on the news channels" So I quoted him a news channel with the word Farang.

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Note the word 'hear', not 'read'.

The operative word above was news not heard or read. The poster was making a point that the news media does not use the word Farang.

And of course he was wrong as demonstrated by our very own news media

New trend of young, educated Thai women with farang husbands emerges: researcher

http://news.thaivisa...earcher/109615/

Posted

Note the word 'hear', not 'read'.

The operative word above was news not heard or read. The poster was making a point that the news media does not use the word Farang.

And of course he was wrong as demonstrated by our very own news media

New trend of young, educated Thai women with farang husbands emerges: researcher

http://news.thaivisa...earcher/109615/

The operative word was 'channel', not 'article'.

But we're just wasting electrons yet again.

Posted

Note the word 'hear', not 'read'.

The operative word above was news not heard or read. The poster was making a point that the news media does not use the word Farang.

And of course he was wrong as demonstrated by our very own news media

New trend of young, educated Thai women with farang husbands emerges: researcher

http://news.thaivisa...earcher/109615/

The operative word was 'channel', not 'article'.

But we're just wasting electrons yet again.

No the operative word was news. Irrelevant if channel or article or skywriting.

The point the man was trying to make was that the news media don't use the word Farang and he is in error.

Posted

Note the word 'hear', not 'read'.

The operative word above was news not heard or read. The poster was making a point that the news media does not use the word Farang.

And of course he was wrong as demonstrated by our very own news media

New trend of young, educated Thai women with farang husbands emerges: researcher

http://news.thaivisa...earcher/109615/

The operative word was 'channel', not 'article'.

But we're just wasting electrons yet again.

No the operative word was news. Irrelevant if channel or article or skywriting.

The point the man was trying to make was that the news media don't use the word Farang and he is in error.

You are one strange individual. I think most people would associate the term news channel with television.

I can't believe I got sucked in.

OB and out

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The operative word above was news not heard or read. The poster was making a point that the news media does not use the word Farang.

And of course he was wrong as demonstrated by our very own news media

New trend of young, educated Thai women with farang husbands emerges: researcher

http://news.thaivisa...earcher/109615/

The operative word was 'channel', not 'article'.

But we're just wasting electrons yet again.

No the operative word was news. Irrelevant if channel or article or skywriting.

The point the man was trying to make was that the news media don't use the word Farang and he is in error.

You are one strange individual. I think most people would associate the term news channel with television.

I can't believe I got sucked in.

OB and out

Fair point. Sometimes you have to stop feeding them.

Posted

You mean when she introduces me as her "Keenok Farang" boyfriend it's not Thai for "Love of her Life Foreigner"?

Why not just introduce her as,"This is my first wife" Keeps em on their toes!

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The operative word above was news not heard or read. The poster was making a point that the news media does not use the word Farang.

And of course he was wrong as demonstrated by our very own news media

New trend of young, educated Thai women with farang husbands emerges: researcher

http://news.thaivisa...earcher/109615/

The operative word was 'channel', not 'article'.

But we're just wasting electrons yet again.

No the operative word was news. Irrelevant if channel or article or skywriting.

The point the man was trying to make was that the news media don't use the word Farang and he is in error.

You are one strange individual. I think most people would associate the term news channel with television.

I can't believe I got sucked in.

OB and out

I'd post a news reader saying Farang on TV but I don't know how to capture it on my computer monitor. Seemed easier to post a trusted news source like Thai Visa using the word Farang proving the same point.

Posted

What was the sentence she used. Without that no one can give you a definitive answer.wai2.gif

I can answer, if my gf called me 'the farang' ( she wouldnt do,thats why she's my gf) she would be EX gf...i don't care what context it was said...end of. She has a name, and I have a name, if they havent got the respect to use it, then i don't respect them.
Posted

What was the sentence she used. Without that no one can give you a definitive answer.wai2.gif

I can answer, if my gf called me 'the farang' ( she wouldnt do,thats why she's my gf) she would be EX gf...i don't care what context it was said...end of. She has a name, and I have a name, if they havent got the respect to use it, then i don't respect them.
The quicker people understand and not just dismiss people as sensitive or whatever and not just be nasty &lt;deleted&gt; the quicker a wrongs righted.

rijit

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What was the sentence she used. Without that no one can give you a definitive answer.wai2.gif

I can answer, if my gf called me 'the farang' ( she wouldnt do,thats why she's my gf) she would be EX gf...i don't care what context it was said...end of. She has a name, and I have a name, if they havent got the respect to use it, then i don't respect them.
The quicker people understand and not just dismiss people as sensitive or whatever and not just be nasty <deleted> the quicker a wrongs righted.

rijit

I M O...:angry:

rijit

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What was the sentence she used. Without that no one can give you a definitive answer.wai2.gif

I can answer, if my gf called me 'the farang' ( she wouldnt do,thats why she's my gf) she would be EX gf...i don't care what context it was said...end of. She has a name, and I have a name, if they havent got the respect to use it, then i don't respect them.
The quicker people understand and not just dismiss people as sensitive or whatever and not just be nasty the quicker a wrongs righted.

rijit

I M O...:angry:

rijit

Should i leave the country.....555555555

Are you trying to tell me I should stick with a girl who refers to me as 'the farang'? Not sure...

I think i am old enough now to decide for myself.

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What was the sentence she used. Without that no one can give you a definitive answer.wai2.gif

I can answer, if my gf called me 'the farang' ( she wouldnt do,thats why she's my gf) she would be EX gf...i don't care what context it was said...end of. She has a name, and I have a name, if they havent got the respect to use it, then i don't respect them.

Depends on whether Farang was used as an adjective or noun as has been discussed many times in this thread. Rather than repeat the many examples I would suggest you look above.

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