webfact Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Don't judge charter based on just a few provisions: PMTHE NATIONAt a press conference in Parliament yesterday, National Reform Council member Sira Jenjaka holds out the Bt1.7 million that he earned in 11 months as salary and allowances, saying he would return the sum if the NRC rejects the draft charterBANGKOK: -- PRIME MINISTER Prayut Chan-o-cha has dropped a hint that he wants Thais to accept the final draft of a new constitution that the National Reform Council will vote on this Sunday.If the NRC votes to endorse the charter draft, a national referendum will be held around early next year."I have set the rules as if I am preparing this food for you to eat but you choose not to eat. If you want new food to eat, you can find it elsewhere,'' Prayut said.He said the fate of the charter was not dependent on him giving an order but on Thais' vision for the country and whether they could learn to live together."Do you want to live amid political conflicts as before?'' he said."Has anyone said after an election is held, 'The country will be peaceful. There will not be protests, street massacres and bomb attacks?' Has anyone guaranteed elected governments can solve these problems,'' he said.He said the public had to be assured there would not be deadly incidents of civil unrest during the administration of future elected governments."An elected government should answer to society in terms of how it can stop such incidents from repeating and what reforms it is planning to do. Do not quarrel over whether we should reject or accept the charter draft,'' he said.The PM urged people not to rush to the conclusion that the whole charter must be undemocratic if they perceive a few of its provisions to be undemocratic."Do not single out a few provisions as undemocratic because that is not the democratic way. But was evil and maliciousness rife when the country had a fully-fledged democratic constitution?'' he said.Meanwhile, Privy Council chief General Prem Tinsulanonda said yesterday that he wished the new charter had included a provision that required all Thais to pay back the debt of gratitude to the country.Prem - speaking before 117 Muslim students from the four southern border provinces taking part in the project "Thai youth with the same heart" - said all Thais, regardless of their religion, had a duty to pay the motherland a debt of gratitude.He said all the previous charters had failed to state that a sense of gratitude to the country was a duty for all Thais. "The easy thing that you can do right now to pay back the country is being a good and moral person and do not cause trouble,'' he said.Also yesterday, National Reform Council members known to be opponents of the charter draft denied that the junta had lobbied them to vote it down.NRC member Seree Suwanpanont said the National Council for Peace and Order had shown its stance in support of the charter draft so it did not make sense that they would want the NRC to vote down the charter.He said among the NRC members who opposed the charter, there was only one military official, Major Anan Vacharotai. He said only the NRC members who supported the charter had been lobbying for their colleagues to back it.Pongthep Thepkanchana, legal adviser to the Pheu Thai Party, said the NRC voting down the charter would be best for the country.He said if the NRC did that, the country could get back on the democratic path sooner and save Bt3 billion on holding a plebiscite.If the NRC rejects the charter, the junta would select a new |committee that would have 180 days to write a new charter.In a related development, the red-shirt United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) sent representatives to seek approval from the NCPO to hold a press conference to express its views on the charter draft.UDD spokesman Thanawut Wichaidit yesterday said the alliance wanted to show its stance on the charter and would not cause any turmoil.He said there would not be a large crowd, only UDD leaders such as Jatuporn Prompan, Nuttawut Saikuar, Weerakan Musikapong and Thida and Weng Tojirakarn.He said the alliance had followed the rules set by the government and the NCPO. He hoped it would be allowed to hold the press conference at the Intercontinental Hotel - the same place that Suthep Thaugsuban of the rival People's Democratic Reform Committe met the press to back the charter draft earlier this week.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Dont-judge-charter-based-on-just-a-few-provisions--30268101.html-- The Nation 2015-09-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunMoo Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 What is it with Thai-people, and those cash? - Put them away, you look like a unprofessional fool!Not even in most corrupt African and middle-eastern states, does lawmakers and keepers, juggle bundles of cash around on press-conferences. It's totally misplaced, and a damn freakshow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 And this type of fool is providing future direction for the country. If there was ever any doubt, this clown confirms its just all about money. Cold hard cash and getting your share! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 "Bt1.7 million that he earned in 11 months as salary and allowances," Gesus, that's a hell of a wad for 11 months of doing very little! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always18 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 So very Thai..................."Don't judge the Charter by it's substance and content, only by it's shiny outward appearance". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 "Don't judge charter based on just a few provisions: PM" In a contract, every word is hugely important. By belittling the charter in such a way, belittles himself, the Junta and the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoristheBlade Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 money, money and more money... When will these idotic 'Thai Buddhist's" ever learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Don't reject charter because of a few sentences such as "army can take over whenever it wants for whatever reason they want" and "special oversight committee that answers to no one but power elite can negate any bill they don't like and dissolve parliament to boot". Can't understand why anyone would object to those safeguards..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Don't reject charter because of a few sentences such as "army can take over whenever it wants for whatever reason they want" and "special oversight committee that answers to no one but power elite can negate any bill they don't like and dissolve parliament to boot". Can't understand why anyone would object to those safeguards..... Exactly. The key quotes from Mr. Prime Minister: "Has anyone said after an election is held, 'The country will be peaceful. There will not be protests, street massacres and bomb attacks?' Has anyone guaranteed elected governments can solve these problems,'' he said. He said the public had to be assured there would not be deadly incidents of civil unrest during the administration of future elected governments. The pitch is simple. Only the Army can guarantee peace in the streets. Therefore, allow us to have ultimate authority. The Charter says: Section 2. Thailand adopts a democratic regime of government with the King as Head of State. For accuracy, Section 2 should be amended to: Section 2. Thailand adopts a democratic regime of government, controlled by a military appointed committee, with the King as Head of State. Edited September 4, 2015 by phoenixdoglover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) The problem is that nearly 95% of the people have no understanding of the charter draft.A poll revealed that 61.0% of them have no understanding of the charter draft, while 34.4% have little understanding on only some issues.There is indeed still a considerable need for explanations, clarifications and for discussions.A Pros and Cons TV broadcast / discussion would be good, but only with honest people who have no criminal records.Excluded should be all persons which a have criminal records. b running free on bail. c were already banned from parliament in the past. d against are corruption or crime cases opened. There is absolutely no need to give those old ugly faces a platform again. Edited September 4, 2015 by tomacht8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 "Sira Jenjaka holds out the Bt1.7 million that he earned in 11 months as salary and allowances,..." What he does not show the Thai people are the income tax receipts he received for payment of tax on his reasonably good salary. Assuming, of course, he is a taxpayer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 He sounds like a wizard counjouring up a potion. Be gone evil ways.... Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Of course the five additional family members on staff pull down what, 45k per month each. (I think the NRC salary is 130 k per month). Money well spent. What an embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 "Do not single out a few provisions as undemocratic because that is not the democratic way." said the democratic soldier.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 "all Thais, regardless of their religion, had a duty to pay the motherland a debt of gratitude." I don't think conquered and colonialized Malay-Thais see Thailand as their MOTHERLAND. And asking a Malay-Thai to show a debt of gratitude towards a Buddhist government is insensitive if not offensive to the Muslim faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 "Has anyone said after an election is held, 'The country will be peaceful. There will not be protests, street massacres and bomb attacks?' Has anyone guaranteed elected governments can solve these problems,'' he said. He said the public had to be assured there would not be deadly incidents of civil unrest during the administration of future elected governments.An elected government should answer to society in terms of how it can stop such incidents from repeating and what reforms it is planning to do. Do not quarrel over whether we should reject or accept the charter draft,'' he said." While in the other hand: military Junta prevented all violence, bombing, falling economy and of course it is new for them, not like they have made coup after coup and failed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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