Anti-Yingluck govt protest: Big C grenade attackers jailed for life

[waitforusalso]

You may be right that there have been more violence perpetrated by people associated with the red shirts, but removing a legally elected government and installing a junta really does invite the crazies out of the wood work.

But it seems the reds have far more crazies waiting IN the woodwork. And in far too many of these instances of political violence, the perpetrators allege they were paid by those with positions in, or connections to members of, Thaksinist governments.

Interesting that this event was caused by the removal of Thaksin in 2006. That suppressed rage must finally have got to be too much, right?

Maybe, or maybe it's because they are the ones who are subjected to injustice after injustice. The yellows by and large get what they want with the assistance of the boys with the guns. The yellow's certainly got pretty nasty @ Laksi and with the Srivichai warriors in 2008. Who knows what lengths they would go to if the governments they elected were removed 4 times and they were shot at by soldiers.

[robblok]

You may be right that there have been more violence perpetrated by people associated with the red shirts, but removing a legally elected government and installing a junta really does invite the crazies out of the wood work.

But it seems the reds have far more crazies waiting IN the woodwork. And in far too many of these instances of political violence, the perpetrators allege they were paid by those with positions in, or connections to members of, Thaksinist governments.

Interesting that this event was caused by the removal of Thaksin in 2006. That suppressed rage must finally have got to be too much, right?

Maybe, or maybe it's because they are the ones who are subjected to injustice after injustice. The yellows by and large get what they want with the assistance of the boys with the guns. The yellow's certainly got pretty nasty @ Laksi and with the Srivichai warriors in 2008. Who knows what lengths they would go to if the governments they elected were removed 4 times and they were shot at by soldiers.

They reds have been power most of the time.. so they get by large what they want.. certainly in the last 10 years. Stop telling porkies.

[Si Thea01]

I find this a bit strange - they confessed to doing it but are appealing the verdict of guilty

"The court first condemned all of them to death but commuted their sentence by one-thirds to life as a benefit of their confession.

The defendants’ lawyer said that he would appeal the verdict to the Appeals Court."

Maybe they want the death sentence to stand

Also no mention of who paid them to do this and who supplied the grenade launcher

Not appealing a guilty verdict, they already confessed ,so they have admmitted guilt. The are appeallng the severity (length) of the sentence. Given the way Thai law works, I don't believe the court will revert to the death sentence. Don't know about the others involved, no mention of that anywhere. Maybe some one else can enlighten you.

[little mary sunshine]

Finally, justice!!

[MZurf]

You may be right that there have been more violence perpetrated by people associated with the red shirts, but removing a legally elected government and installing a junta really does invite the crazies out of the wood work.

But it seems the reds have far more crazies waiting IN the woodwork. And in far too many of these instances of political violence, the perpetrators allege they were paid by those with positions in, or connections to members of, Thaksinist governments.

Interesting that this event was caused by the removal of Thaksin in 2006. That suppressed rage must finally have got to be too much, right?

Was that an actual or retorical question? When you finally have a say in the running of the country only to have it snatched away from you again by the elites then, yes, I can see this being a situation that might make extremists act.

Very much like the idiotic policies of Thaksin down south escalating the whole situation from very occational to widespread bloodshed.

Yes, Thaksin. Unlike you I'm not enamoured with any side (something I have to repeat ad nauseum since some junta lovers cannot grasp this concept).

[lildragon]

Good. You have taken away two young lives that had their whole lives a head of them and ruined the lives of those siblings and the other poor lady that died.

Scum, rot in hell for the rest of your miserable lives.

[halloween]

You may be right that there have been more violence perpetrated by people associated with the red shirts, but removing a legally elected government and installing a junta really does invite the crazies out of the wood work.

But it seems the reds have far more crazies waiting IN the woodwork. And in far too many of these instances of political violence, the perpetrators allege they were paid by those with positions in, or connections to members of, Thaksinist governments.

Interesting that this event was caused by the removal of Thaksin in 2006. That suppressed rage must finally have got to be too much, right?

Was that an actual or retorical question? When you finally have a say in the running of the country only to have it snatched away from you again by the elites then, yes, I can see this being a situation that might make extremists act.

Very much like the idiotic policies of Thaksin down south escalating the whole situation from very occational to widespread bloodshed.

Yes, Thaksin. Unlike you I'm not enamoured with any side (something I have to repeat ad nauseum since some junta lovers cannot grasp this concept).

My power has been snatched away (8 years ago, but returned since). I think I'll get my M-79 from under the bed and kill some people protesting about the corruption of the government I support, and a few (very) innocent bystanders. Welcome to democracy, red shirt style.

[MZurf]

You may be right that there have been more violence perpetrated by people associated with the red shirts, but removing a legally elected government and installing a junta really does invite the crazies out of the wood work.

But it seems the reds have far more crazies waiting IN the woodwork. And in far too many of these instances of political violence, the perpetrators allege they were paid by those with positions in, or connections to members of, Thaksinist governments.

Interesting that this event was caused by the removal of Thaksin in 2006. That suppressed rage must finally have got to be too much, right?

Was that an actual or retorical question? When you finally have a say in the running of the country only to have it snatched away from you again by the elites then, yes, I can see this being a situation that might make extremists act.

Very much like the idiotic policies of Thaksin down south escalating the whole situation from very occational to widespread bloodshed.

Yes, Thaksin. Unlike you I'm not enamoured with any side (something I have to repeat ad nauseum since some junta lovers cannot grasp this concept).

My power has been snatched away (8 years ago, but returned since). I think I'll get my M-79 from under the bed and kill some people protesting about the corruption of the government I support, and a few (very) innocent bystanders. Welcome to democracy, red shirt style.

Yes, that incident defines the whole red shirt movement. Anything and everything the reds so or say is defined by this atrocity.

Again, Halloween hits the nail on the head!!!

[AleG]

But it seems the reds have far more crazies waiting IN the woodwork. And in far too many of these instances of political violence, the perpetrators allege they were paid by those with positions in, or connections to members of, Thaksinist governments.

Interesting that this event was caused by the removal of Thaksin in 2006. That suppressed rage must finally have got to be too much, right?

Maybe, or maybe it's because they are the ones who are subjected to injustice after injustice. The yellows by and large get what they want with the assistance of the boys with the guns. The yellow's certainly got pretty nasty @ Laksi and with the Srivichai warriors in 2008. Who knows what lengths they would go to if the governments they elected were removed 4 times and they were shot at by soldiers.

People that would fire a grenade into busy road killing three (including two children) don't have the faintest shadow of a right to invoke injustice against them as an excuse for their actions.

[robblok]

But it seems the reds have far more crazies waiting IN the woodwork. And in far too many of these instances of political violence, the perpetrators allege they were paid by those with positions in, or connections to members of, Thaksinist governments.

Interesting that this event was caused by the removal of Thaksin in 2006. That suppressed rage must finally have got to be too much, right?

Was that an actual or retorical question? When you finally have a say in the running of the country only to have it snatched away from you again by the elites then, yes, I can see this being a situation that might make extremists act.

Very much like the idiotic policies of Thaksin down south escalating the whole situation from very occational to widespread bloodshed.

Yes, Thaksin. Unlike you I'm not enamoured with any side (something I have to repeat ad nauseum since some junta lovers cannot grasp this concept).

My power has been snatched away (8 years ago, but returned since). I think I'll get my M-79 from under the bed and kill some people protesting about the corruption of the government I support, and a few (very) innocent bystanders. Welcome to democracy, red shirt style.

Yes, that incident defines the whole red shirt movement. Anything and everything the reds so or say is defined by this atrocity.

Again, Halloween hits the nail on the head!!!

It spoke volumes that during the red-shirt meeting when they announced about the attack on Trat (children were killed there too) a large portion of the reds cheered and only Tida was smart enough to stop it to prevent an even worse PR disaster. But its all on record, that does not mean all red-shirts are bad but it certainly is not an incident reds and violence and many support it.

Unless cheering means something else for those guys.. like an expression of grief.

I am not saying the majority of red-shirts support violence.. but the cheering and all the violent attacks do show a pattern.

As others pointed out they were still in power when this all happened.. so you cant blame the coup.

[cookee68]

how do you commute death by one third and come up with life

[rubl]

Was that an actual or retorical question? When you finally have a say in the running of the country only to have it snatched away from you again by the elites then, yes, I can see this being a situation that might make extremists act.

Very much like the idiotic policies of Thaksin down south escalating the whole situation from very occational to widespread bloodshed.

Yes, Thaksin. Unlike you I'm not enamoured with any side (something I have to repeat ad nauseum since some junta lovers cannot grasp this concept).

My power has been snatched away (8 years ago, but returned since). I think I'll get my M-79 from under the bed and kill some people protesting about the corruption of the government I support, and a few (very) innocent bystanders. Welcome to democracy, red shirt style.

Yes, that incident defines the whole red shirt movement. Anything and everything the reds so or say is defined by this atrocity.

Again, Halloween hits the nail on the head!!!

Seems he did

Chaturon of fame in other 'hot' topic said in April, 2010

"""Street politics is going to play a greater role again," says Chaturon. "The Red Shirt movement has already shown that street politics is crucial to change and I believe that if (Pheu Thai) wins, they will be there to protect that government, even during the process of constitutional amendment."""

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/red-shirts-to-colour-thailands-future/story-e6frg6so-1225854707517

[AleG]

It spoke volumes that during the red-shirt meeting when they announced about the attack on Trat (children were killed there too) a large portion of the reds cheered and only Tida was smart enough to stop it to prevent an even worse PR disaster. But its all on record, that does not mean all red-shirts are bad but it certainly is not an incident reds and violence and many support it.

Unless cheering means something else for those guys.. like an expression of grief.

I am not saying the majority of red-shirts support violence.. but the cheering and all the violent attacks do show a pattern.

As others pointed out they were still in power when this all happened.. so you cant blame the coup.

I think it's relevant to point out that meeting was of Red Shirt local leaders; the people that, presumably, serve as an example to follow by the rest of the hoi polloi.

[robblok]

It spoke volumes that during the red-shirt meeting when they announced about the attack on Trat (children were killed there too) a large portion of the reds cheered and only Tida was smart enough to stop it to prevent an even worse PR disaster. But its all on record, that does not mean all red-shirts are bad but it certainly is not an incident reds and violence and many support it.

Unless cheering means something else for those guys.. like an expression of grief.

I am not saying the majority of red-shirts support violence.. but the cheering and all the violent attacks do show a pattern.

As others pointed out they were still in power when this all happened.. so you cant blame the coup.

I think it's relevant to point out that meeting was of Red Shirt local leaders; the people that, presumably, serve as an example to follow by the rest of the hoi polloi.

Not to mention that representatives of the PTP government were there too, too bad that Tida was smart enough to see the PR problems else much more would have been exposed.

[djjamie]

Lets hope these people spend the rest of their lives in jail understanding that the red cause is a cause associated with death and lawlessness.

Thank goodness you will never see Suthep supporters killing innocent kids in front of shopping centres nor cheering the deaths of innocent lives at the =hands of terrorists. .

That is why he endeared so many more supporters to his protests I suppose.

But you did see Suthep supporters shooting down a 70 year old man, in cold blood, among others; not to mention the 'disappeared'. You have no credibility until you accept that violence is wrong no matter which side is the perpetrator. Selective memory in matters such as these serves no useful purpose.

The deadly deeds of the red shirts are well known and accounted for thus why I did not give links. For instance the killing of kids by the reds (whose supporters strongly denied the reds did it until proven otherwise) was referring to this article and the cheering of terrorism is widely known yet conveniently overlooked by red supporters. Most importantly red supporters defend the actions of their peers stating "The PDRC made us do it" or "When backed into a corner we have no choice". Another words defending killing and death and terrorism.

Show me the link to the PDRC supporter killing a 70 year old man and I will show you not a single supporter defending it nor cheering the killing of the innocent person. In fact I will never defend this and support a sentence befitting the crime. I will not denounce the judge nor throw sh*t at his court house for jailing him or calling him guilty.

Yet reds do.

I am not a troll. I state facts and relay information that some hate to admit to. So much so that the only reply to my posts seem to be to attack me personally instead of addressing my post.

Thank you my friend for at least showing some form of intelligence by addressing what I discussed as opposed to attacking me which as mentioned previously is a red shirt trait.

[brewsterbudgen]

Lets hope these people spend the rest of their lives in jail understanding that the red cause is a cause associated with death and lawlessness.

Thank goodness you will never see Suthep supporters killing innocent kids in front of shopping centres nor cheering the deaths of innocent lives at the =hands of terrorists. .

That is why he endeared so many more supporters to his protests I suppose.

But you did see Suthep supporters shooting down a 70 year old man, in cold blood, among others; not to mention the 'disappeared'. You have no credibility until you accept that violence is wrong no matter which side is the perpetrator. Selective memory in matters such as these serves no useful purpose.

The deadly deeds of the red shirts are well known and accounted for thus why I did not give links. For instance the killing of kids by the reds (whose supporters strongly denied the reds did it until proven otherwise) was referring to this article and the cheering of terrorism is widely known yet conveniently overlooked by red supporters. Most importantly red supporters defend the actions of their peers stating "The PDRC made us do it" or "When backed into a corner we have no choice". Another words defending killing and death and terrorism.

Show me the link to the PDRC supporter killing a 70 year old man and I will show you not a single supporter defending it nor cheering the killing of the innocent person. In fact I will never defend this and support a sentence befitting the crime. I will not denounce the judge nor throw sh*t at his court house for jailing him or calling him guilty.

Yet reds do.

I am not a troll. I state facts and relay information that some hate to admit to. So much so that the only reply to my posts seem to be to attack me personally instead of addressing my post.

Thank you my friend for at least showing some form of intelligence by addressing what I discussed as opposed to attacking me which as mentioned previously is a red shirt trait.

You're not a troll, but even you must admit your posts are somewhat biased! Unfortunately one-sided views on both sides are part of the problem.

[waitforusalso]

Show me the link to the PDRC supporter killing a 70 year old man and I will show you not a single supporter defending it nor cheering the killing of the innocent person. In fact I will never defend this and support a sentence befitting the crime. I will not denounce the judge nor throw sh*t at his court house for jailing him or calling him guilty.

PDRC’s Hero of the Month

T-shirts of the “popcorn gunman” sold openly in Bangkok. Mr. Vivat Yodprasit, 24, a native of Phitsanulok was caught and in March admitted to being the “popcorn gunman” hired by the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC). While we frown upon violence, the supporters of PDRC a treated Vivat as a “hero” – proving they rely on violence to derail democracy in Thailand.

https://thailandnewsworth.wordpress.com/2014/05/03/pdrcs-hero-of-the-month/

Akaew Sae-Liew, a 72-year-old street vendor, was shot on his neck by gunmen, believably to be affiliated with the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), during a confrontation between the red shirts and anti-election PDRC guards at Lak Si Intersection on 1 February.

http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/4362

They should come because popcorn vendors have made popcorn for them," Suthep said, referring to the gunmen at the clash between the red shirts and PDRC protesters before election day. The clash saw some gunmen covering their rifles with popcorn bags.

"Natthawut Saikuar and Jatuporn Promphan should really come … I don't know these popcorn vendors but I really love them."

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Suthep-warns-red-shirt-leaders-of-popcorn-vendors-30227329.html

[MZurf]

Show me the link to the PDRC supporter killing a 70 year old man and I will show you not a single supporter defending it nor cheering the killing of the innocent person. In fact I will never defend this and support a sentence befitting the crime. I will not denounce the judge nor throw sh*t at his court house for jailing him or calling him guilty.

PDRC’s Hero of the Month

T-shirts of the “popcorn gunman” sold openly in Bangkok. Mr. Vivat Yodprasit, 24, a native of Phitsanulok was caught and in March admitted to being the “popcorn gunman” hired by the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC). While we frown upon violence, the supporters of PDRC a treated Vivat as a “hero” – proving they rely on violence to derail democracy in Thailand.

https://thailandnewsworth.wordpress.com/2014/05/03/pdrcs-hero-of-the-month/

Akaew Sae-Liew, a 72-year-old street vendor, was shot on his neck by gunmen, believably to be affiliated with the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), during a confrontation between the red shirts and anti-election PDRC guards at Lak Si Intersection on 1 February.

http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/4362

They should come because popcorn vendors have made popcorn for them," Suthep said, referring to the gunmen at the clash between the red shirts and PDRC protesters before election day. The clash saw some gunmen covering their rifles with popcorn bags.

"Natthawut Saikuar and Jatuporn Promphan should really come … I don't know these popcorn vendors but I really love them."

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Suthep-warns-red-shirt-leaders-of-popcorn-vendors-30227329.html

This doesn't count as the "right" side did it. You have to understand that it's only despicable when the reds do it!!

[rubl]

Show me the link to the PDRC supporter killing a 70 year old man and I will show you not a single supporter defending it nor cheering the killing of the innocent person. In fact I will never defend this and support a sentence befitting the crime. I will not denounce the judge nor throw sh*t at his court house for jailing him or calling him guilty.

PDRC’s Hero of the Month

T-shirts of the “popcorn gunman” sold openly in Bangkok. Mr. Vivat Yodprasit, 24, a native of Phitsanulok was caught and in March admitted to being the “popcorn gunman” hired by the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC). While we frown upon violence, the supporters of PDRC a treated Vivat as a “hero” – proving they rely on violence to derail democracy in Thailand.

https://thailandnewsworth.wordpress.com/2014/05/03/pdrcs-hero-of-the-month/

Akaew Sae-Liew, a 72-year-old street vendor, was shot on his neck by gunmen, believably to be affiliated with the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), during a confrontation between the red shirts and anti-election PDRC guards at Lak Si Intersection on 1 February.

http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/4362

They should come because popcorn vendors have made popcorn for them," Suthep said, referring to the gunmen at the clash between the red shirts and PDRC protesters before election day. The clash saw some gunmen covering their rifles with popcorn bags.

"Natthawut Saikuar and Jatuporn Promphan should really come … I don't know these popcorn vendors but I really love them."

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Suthep-warns-red-shirt-leaders-of-popcorn-vendors-30227329.html

This doesn't count as the "right" side did it. You have to understand that it's only despicable when the reds do it!!

Oh, but this does count. The chap is apprehended, charged, maybe jailed or bailed awaiting the court case to start.

Of course his coming to the rescue of unarmed anti-government protesters who were being hunted and shot at by red-shirts doesn't justify his actions. Even the near nightly shots fired by 'unknowns' and the more than hundred grenades dropped on the anti-government protesters still don't justify his actions.

Such actions need to be condemned, such people charged, their paymasters equally charged.

[spidermike007]

This is very good news. It is rare indeed when a Thai judge does the right thing. They do appear to be a cowardly lot. Anytime someone throws a grenade into a crowd, they have to bear the consequences. The fact that they confessed, and are still appealing the verdict says alot about who these tiny men are. What did they expect? The kind of sentence most judges would have handed out? A ten year suspended sentence, perhaps? No, not this time. Time to pay the piper. Hope they are able to find some nice friends in prison. Time to become a girlfriend, boys.