New Salary Requirements For The Extension Of Stay Based On Business Starting Oct 1st

[racefan]

It seems the answer to my concern below is obvious. But, only having had a retirement Visa in the past (now expired), I would appreciate anyone who understands the salary requirements confirming.

I have recently been attending a class to teach English. My objective was to teach part-time (therefore making little money) in order to do something worthwhile and relieve some retitrement boredom. Since I would be making little money, please confirm, I would not meet the requirements for a Non-Immigrant B Visa. And, since one is not allowed to work at all on a retirement Visa, it seems there is no way for me to be able to teach part-time. Therefore, I would have to leave Thailand and go to Cambodia which does not have any salary requirements in order to teach part-time (or some other country). Thanks to anyone who can confirm the above.

I am in full time employment with a Thai Law firm and have recently renewed my retirement visa as I have been assured that provided you can come up with the 100baht doctor's certficate, it is perfectly ok to work on a retirement visa.

Sounds crazy I know, but my work permit was issued on the strength of the retirement visa.

[wolfmanjack]

I have a friend from the UK who works in Thailand. He asked his employer about the minimum salary requirement (because he earns less than that) and they explained to him that they have to pay income tax in his name on the minimum salary, even if he earns less than this.

Has anyone else been told this? It would seem to make sense as it implies that the rule is designed to maximise the tax revenues for the government, rather than as a minimum wage protection for foreign workers.

I was working out tax with a Thai friend of mine who just got a new job at pretty close to 50k. His tax every month is going to be less than 4k. At 20k or 24k (as the previous posters said) the tax would be negligible.

TAXABLE INCOME = assessable income - deductions - allowances

In the most basic calculation, where the person just deducts 60k (exempt) and 30k (individual allowance) then the taxable income is 600k - 90k = 510k and total tax for the year is 44,500 or 3,708/month. The employer pays the tax to the government every month (PAYE), and should then pay you the rest of the money (46,292). If they don't, then their books will still show that it was paid and the money can be offset against revenue or used for other 'off the book' expenses (ahem!)

I saw another post about a teacher who claimed his colleagues earning the same as him (substantially less than 50k) were driving BMWs etc. I'm beginning to understand why!

I don't know where you are figuring your tax rate from. But here is the tax schedule. On 510,000 baht you pay 20% which is 102,000 per year or 8,500 per month. Not a small amount for someone that i actually only getting paid 30,000 per month.

Taxable Income Tax Rate (%) Tax Amount Accumulated Tax

0 - 50,000 Exempt - -

50,001 - 100,000 5 2,500 2,500

100,001 - 500,000 10 40,000 42,500

500,001 - 1,000,000 20 100,000 142,500

1,000,001 - 4,000,000 30 900,000 1,042,500

4,000,001 and over 37

[joefromdc]

I don't think teachers come into the equation maybe because they are frequently paid for by government

It's my understanding that foreign language teachers have different salary requirements than non-teaching positions. I'd have to ask my friend who owns an English language school, but I think the teacher salary requirement is (was?) between 30,000 and 40,000.

When the first change went into effect it looked like if his teachers were from the USA (and most are, his school is called the "American English School") he would have to pay them 60,000/month. He was a little worried until he learned that teachers were considered "special" and had the different requirements.

There was no way anyone would pay the average English teacher 60,000/month. If that had had been the case, only the richest of privately owned schools would still have any farang English teachers.

j.

[manjara]

I have a friend from the UK who works in Thailand. He asked his employer about the minimum salary requirement (because he earns less than that) and they explained to him that they have to pay income tax in his name on the minimum salary, even if he earns less than this.

Has anyone else been told this? It would seem to make sense as it implies that the rule is designed to maximise the tax revenues for the government, rather than as a minimum wage protection for foreign workers.

I was working out tax with a Thai friend of mine who just got a new job at pretty close to 50k. His tax every month is going to be less than 4k. At 20k or 24k (as the previous posters said) the tax would be negligible.

TAXABLE INCOME = assessable income - deductions - allowances

In the most basic calculation, where the person just deducts 60k (exempt) and 30k (individual allowance) then the taxable income is 600k - 90k = 510k and total tax for the year is 44,500 or 3,708/month. The employer pays the tax to the government every month (PAYE), and should then pay you the rest of the money (46,292). If they don't, then their books will still show that it was paid and the money can be offset against revenue or used for other 'off the book' expenses (ahem!)

I saw another post about a teacher who claimed his colleagues earning the same as him (substantially less than 50k) were driving BMWs etc. I'm beginning to understand why!

I don't know where you are figuring your tax rate from. But here is the tax schedule. On 510,000 baht you pay 20% which is 102,000 per year or 8,500 per month. Not a small amount for someone that i actually only getting paid 30,000 per month.

Taxable Income Tax Rate (%) Tax Amount Accumulated Tax

0 - 50,000 Exempt - -

50,001 - 100,000 5 2,500 2,500

100,001 - 500,000 10 40,000 42,500

500,001 - 1,000,000 20 100,000 142,500

1,000,001 - 4,000,000 30 900,000 1,042,500

4,000,001 and over 37

Wolfmanjack, don't attempt accountancy, it'll only make your head hurt!

You pay 20% on everything above 500,000, i.e. the 10k. For everything up to 500,000 the accumulated tax is 42,500. Add in 20% of 10k and you get 44,500.

If your school (or bar?) only pays you 30k/month then that should be the amount after tax has been paid (though it should be higher). You would not pay the tax, the company has to pay it and deduct it from your wage.

Is this really so hard to understand?!

[Tomissan]

I am in full time employment with a Thai Law firm and have recently renewed my retirement visa as I have been assured that provided you can come up with the 100baht doctor's certficate, it is perfectly ok to work on a retirement visa.

Sounds crazy I know, but my work permit was issued on the strength of the retirement visa.

Not all immigration offices are created equal, nor do they 'go by the book', no two are alike.

Nongkai Immigration: "No, you can not work or obtain a work permit if you hold a Retirement Visa".

Thai laws & regulations are like the weather, and at the moment it's raining, who knows what tomorrow will bring ?

The only consistant thing in LOS is in-consistancy.

and by the way...Americans & Japanese have to pay tax based on 'minimum salary' of 60k baht per month.

On that amount I pay 5% (3,000 baht per month tax). Perhaps not all tax office's are equal either.

Edited September 29, 2006 by Tomissan

[animatic]

He asked his employer about the minimum salary requirement (because he earns less than that) and they explained to him that they have to pay income tax in his name on the minimum salary, even if he earns less than this.

Has anyone else been told this? It would seem to make sense as it implies that the rule is designed to maximise the tax revenues for the government, rather than as a minimum wage protection for foreign workers.

This hit it right on the head.

As long as employers pay TAXES that match to the OFFICIAL numbers

all is OK.

But of course this keeps actual salaries low, and spending power in LOS

lower for each employed expat.

This is ironic, that the level for asians is so much lower,

because THEY are most likely to send money to their home country

to help the family. Thereby taking it out of Thailands economy.

While Anglo/Euro/N. American expats will spend it ALL in LOS,

except for a small % for travel and visa runs.

And in a few cases to help grown children back home,

who haven't got it together yet.

The disparty between asians and euro decended peoples,

would on the face of it reflect mean income in the home countries,

but it really, if read between the lines, seems racial prejudice....

Flat rate for ALL people would be fair. End of story.

[andy1308]

Hi,

The 20,000 baht limit for 'journalists working for Thailand newspapers' is also an interesting fact, considering it's almost impossible for a no-Thai national to be employed as a journalist here. There are ways around it, as we all know, but just an observation.

Andy.

[Martin]

QUOTE(dave_boo @ 2006-09-28 19:10:48)

...

My head hurts. Or like my tilak says "You think too much!"

Then 'manjara' in post #28:

Mine says that too! Perhaps that's the secret to living in Thailand; "Don't think too much, just do it, and sort out the problems later, or pretend they don't exist".

Either way, attempting to impose rational, ordered structure on thai society is doomed to failure.

Just accept the rules, or pay who you have to to make them go away - simple!

It's either that, or you start to get through a lot of 'medicine'./End

It is a big change for us western-centrics, who have been drilled in "It is the same rules for all, at all times" to come to a culture that, basically, doesn't venerate rules; and even where it feels it should have a Rule Book and put something in it, writes 'with a rubber pen on rubber pages' and creates flexibility that responds to the 'right' pulls and pushes.

Many a newbie would be helped by having the above explained to him early on.

Knowing how your hosts think makes it more likely that you won't inadvertently become an unwelcome guest, because of 'inappropriate behaviour'.

[otherstuff1957]

Not all immigration offices are created equal, nor do they 'go by the book', no two are alike.

Thai laws & regulations are like the weather, and at the moment it's raining, who knows what tomorrow will bring ?

The only consistant thing in LOS is in-consistancy.

and by the way...Americans & Japanese have to pay tax based on 'minimum salary' of 60k baht per month.

On that amount I pay 5% (3,000 baht per month tax). Perhaps not all tax office's are equal either.

You're right when you say that not all tax office's are equal either... I'm an American and my taxes are about 2,200 per month!

[BPayette]

I have a friend from the UK who works in Thailand. He asked his employer about the minimum salary requirement (because he earns less than that) and they explained to him that they have to pay income tax in his name on the minimum salary, even if he earns less than this.

Has anyone else been told this? It would seem to make sense as it implies that the rule is designed to maximise the tax revenues for the government, rather than as a minimum wage protection for foreign workers.

I was working out tax with a Thai friend of mine who just got a new job at pretty close to 50k. His tax every month is going to be less than 4k. At 20k or 24k (as the previous posters said) the tax would be negligible.

TAXABLE INCOME = assessable income - deductions - allowances

In the most basic calculation, where the person just deducts 60k (exempt) and 30k (individual allowance) then the taxable income is 600k - 90k = 510k and total tax for the year is 44,500 or 3,708/month. The employer pays the tax to the government every month (PAYE), and should then pay you the rest of the money (46,292). If they don't, then their books will still show that it was paid and the money can be offset against revenue or used for other 'off the book' expenses (ahem!)

I saw another post about a teacher who claimed his colleagues earning the same as him (substantially less than 50k) were driving BMWs etc. I'm beginning to understand why!

I don't know where you are figuring your tax rate from. But here is the tax schedule. On 510,000 baht you pay 20% which is 102,000 per year or 8,500 per month. Not a small amount for someone that i actually only getting paid 30,000 per month.

Taxable Income Tax Rate (%) Tax Amount Accumulated Tax

0 - 50,000 Exempt - -

50,001 - 100,000 5 2,500 2,500

100,001 - 500,000 10 40,000 42,500

500,001 - 1,000,000 20 100,000 142,500

1,000,001 - 4,000,000 30 900,000 1,042,500

4,000,001 and over 37

Wolfmanjack, don't attempt accountancy, it'll only make your head hurt!

You pay 20% on everything above 500,000, i.e. the 10k. For everything up to 500,000 the accumulated tax is 42,500. Add in 20% of 10k and you get 44,500.

If your school (or bar?) only pays you 30k/month then that should be the amount after tax has been paid (though it should be higher). You would not pay the tax, the company has to pay it and deduct it from your wage.

Is this really so hard to understand?!

Wolfmanjack,

Manjara is correct. The tax table he lists above is the correct one.

[BPayette]

I have a friend from the UK who works in Thailand. He asked his employer about the minimum salary requirement (because he earns less than that) and they explained to him that they have to pay income tax in his name on the minimum salary, even if he earns less than this.

Has anyone else been told this? It would seem to make sense as it implies that the rule is designed to maximise the tax revenues for the government, rather than as a minimum wage protection for foreign workers.

I was working out tax with a Thai friend of mine who just got a new job at pretty close to 50k. His tax every month is going to be less than 4k. At 20k or 24k (as the previous posters said) the tax would be negligible.

TAXABLE INCOME = assessable income - deductions - allowances

In the most basic calculation, where the person just deducts 60k (exempt) and 30k (individual allowance) then the taxable income is 600k - 90k = 510k and total tax for the year is 44,500 or 3,708/month. The employer pays the tax to the government every month (PAYE), and should then pay you the rest of the money (46,292). If they don't, then their books will still show that it was paid and the money can be offset against revenue or used for other 'off the book' expenses (ahem!)

I saw another post about a teacher who claimed his colleagues earning the same as him (substantially less than 50k) were driving BMWs etc. I'm beginning to understand why!

I don't know where you are figuring your tax rate from. But here is the tax schedule. On 510,000 baht you pay 20% which is 102,000 per year or 8,500 per month. Not a small amount for someone that i actually only getting paid 30,000 per month.

Taxable Income Tax Rate (%) Tax Amount Accumulated Tax

0 - 50,000 Exempt - -

50,001 - 100,000 5 2,500 2,500

100,001 - 500,000 10 40,000 42,500

500,001 - 1,000,000 20 100,000 142,500

1,000,001 - 4,000,000 30 900,000 1,042,500

4,000,001 and over 37

Wolfmanjack, don't attempt accountancy, it'll only make your head hurt!

You pay 20% on everything above 500,000, i.e. the 10k. For everything up to 500,000 the accumulated tax is 42,500. Add in 20% of 10k and you get 44,500.

If your school (or bar?) only pays you 30k/month then that should be the amount after tax has been paid (though it should be higher). You would not pay the tax, the company has to pay it and deduct it from your wage.

Is this really so hard to understand?!

Wolfmanjack,

Manjara is correct. The tax table he lists above is the correct one.

OOPS, sorry, got the names mixed up, Wolfmanjack is correct...

[manjara]

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I don't know where you are figuring your tax rate from. But here is the tax schedule. On 510,000 baht you pay 20% which is 102,000 per year or 8,500 per month. Not a small amount for someone that i actually only getting paid 30,000 per month.

Taxable Income Tax Rate (%) Tax Amount Accumulated Tax

0 - 50,000 Exempt - -

50,001 - 100,000 5 2,500 2,500

100,001 - 500,000 10 40,000 42,500

500,001 - 1,000,000 20 100,000 142,500

1,000,001 - 4,000,000 30 900,000 1,042,500

4,000,001 and over 37

Wolfmanjack, don't attempt accountancy, it'll only make your head hurt!

You pay 20% on everything above 500,000, i.e. the 10k. For everything up to 500,000 the accumulated tax is 42,500. Add in 20% of 10k and you get 44,500.

If your school (or bar?) only pays you 30k/month then that should be the amount after tax has been paid (though it should be higher). You would not pay the tax, the company has to pay it and deduct it from your wage.

Is this really so hard to understand?!

Wolfmanjack,

Manjara is correct. The tax table he lists above is the correct one.

OOPS, sorry, got the names mixed up, Wolfmanjack is correct...

Wolfmanjack's table is the correct one (and it's the same as I used), but his calculation is wrong. As in most countries, the stepped rate applies only to the taxable income above the threshold!

As 2 people have now effectively 'corrected' me, I'm beginning to think I could be wrong, except that Sunbelt has been paying my tax on this basis every month!

Can someone who is a qualified tax accountant confirm, I know I'm right, but in a democracy, that doesn't matter, I need to be in the majority!

[wolfmanjack]

I have a friend from the UK who works in Thailand. He asked his employer about the minimum salary requirement (because he earns less than that) and they explained to him that they have to pay income tax in his name on the minimum salary, even if he earns less than this.

Has anyone else been told this? It would seem to make sense as it implies that the rule is designed to maximise the tax revenues for the government, rather than as a minimum wage protection for foreign workers.

I was working out tax with a Thai friend of mine who just got a new job at pretty close to 50k. His tax every month is going to be less than 4k. At 20k or 24k (as the previous posters said) the tax would be negligible.

TAXABLE INCOME = assessable income - deductions - allowances

In the most basic calculation, where the person just deducts 60k (exempt) and 30k (individual allowance) then the taxable income is 600k - 90k = 510k and total tax for the year is 44,500 or 3,708/month. The employer pays the tax to the government every month (PAYE), and should then pay you the rest of the money (46,292). If they don't, then their books will still show that it was paid and the money can be offset against revenue or used for other 'off the book' expenses (ahem!)

I saw another post about a teacher who claimed his colleagues earning the same as him (substantially less than 50k) were driving BMWs etc. I'm beginning to understand why!

I don't know where you are figuring your tax rate from. But here is the tax schedule. On 510,000 baht you pay 20% which is 102,000 per year or 8,500 per month. Not a small amount for someone that i actually only getting paid 30,000 per month.

Taxable Income Tax Rate (%) Tax Amount Accumulated Tax

0 - 50,000 Exempt - -

50,001 - 100,000 5 2,500 2,500

100,001 - 500,000 10 40,000 42,500

500,001 - 1,000,000 20 100,000 142,500

1,000,001 - 4,000,000 30 900,000 1,042,500

4,000,001 and over 37

Wolfmanjack, don't attempt accountancy, it'll only make your head hurt!

You pay 20% on everything above 500,000, i.e. the 10k. For everything up to 500,000 the accumulated tax is 42,500. Add in 20% of 10k and you get 44,500.

You are right. I missed the accumalated tax part. I only looked at the tax rate and the Tax Amount Column. Not hard to understand if the website would have listed that in english.

If your school (or bar?) only pays you 30k/month then that should be the amount after tax has been paid (though it should be higher).

The amount I actualy get paid is less than the "30K/month" after the income tax and social insurance is deducted. I do have to file a tax return at the end of the year though.

You would not pay the tax, the company has to pay it and deduct it from your wage.

The comapny does not pay my tax. They withold from my salary it for the thai government but I am the one actually paying the tax since it is deducted from my wages.

Is this really so hard to understand?!

[PuaSai]

Other Asian Countries not listed, South America, East Europe, Central America, Mexico, Turkey, Russia, South Africa

35,000 Baht/month

Does anybody know which countries are in the category if "East Europe"? (e.g. I'm from Hungary, am I an Easter European? Some from different countries would say this, but some others would say that it is Middle-Europe.)

You're Eastern European based on Hungary.

[manjara]

Wolfmanjack, don't attempt accountancy, it'll only make your head hurt!

You pay 20% on everything above 500,000, i.e. the 10k. For everything up to 500,000 the accumulated tax is 42,500. Add in 20% of 10k and you get 44,500.

You are right. I missed the accumalated tax part. I only looked at the tax rate and the Tax Amount Column. Not hard to understand if the website would have listed that in english.

If your school (or bar?) only pays you 30k/month then that should be the amount after tax has been paid (though it should be higher).

The amount I actualy get paid is less than the "30K/month" after the income tax and social insurance is deducted. I do have to file a tax return at the end of the year though.

You would not pay the tax, the company has to pay it and deduct it from your wage.

The comapny does not pay my tax. They withold from my salary it for the thai government but I am the one actually paying the tax since it is deducted from my wages.

....

In my company, the actual tax money is submitted on a monthly basis from the company to the Thai government. Also, the social fund payments are not deducted from the employee wage, but paid in addition (maybe that's just my company?). Obviously the money is credited to the individual's tax account, but the individual does not physically pay the money. Semantics though, and I'm glad we are in agreement on the tax calculation now.

Of course, once you start earning a basic western level salary (say 150k baht a month), then the tax amounts are significantly higher. Almost 30k out of 150k.

If a company pays a farang less than the 50k - tax, but pays tax at the 50k rate, then where is the money going? It is in the books as having been paid to the farang, but it can then be pocketed by whoever makes the payments (or shared among several people).

That poor English school owner who only pays himself 50k too, yet somehow lives in a 15 million baht house and drives a Merc? Perhaps these schools are not as unprofitable as people think?

10 farang teachers being paid 30k each, but submitting tax for 50k, would mean around 160k of 'slush' money that can be extracted from the company into the owners pocket, tax free (except the small tax paid on behalf of the farangs).

[wolfmanjack]

Wolfmanjack, don't attempt accountancy, it'll only make your head hurt!

You pay 20% on everything above 500,000, i.e. the 10k. For everything up to 500,000 the accumulated tax is 42,500. Add in 20% of 10k and you get 44,500.

You are right. I missed the accumalated tax part. I only looked at the tax rate and the Tax Amount Column. Not hard to understand if the website would have listed that in english.

If your school (or bar?) only pays you 30k/month then that should be the amount after tax has been paid (though it should be higher).

The amount I actualy get paid is less than the "30K/month" after the income tax and social insurance is deducted. I do have to file a tax return at the end of the year though.

You would not pay the tax, the company has to pay it and deduct it from your wage.

The comapny does not pay my tax. They withold from my salary it for the thai government but I am the one actually paying the tax since it is deducted from my wages.

....

In my company, the actual tax money is submitted on a monthly basis from the company to the Thai government. Also, the social fund payments are not deducted from the employee wage, but paid in addition (maybe that's just my company?). Obviously the money is credited to the individual's tax account, but the individual does not physically pay the money. Semantics though, and I'm glad we are in agreement on the tax calculation now.

Of course, once you start earning a basic western level salary (say 150k baht a month), then the tax amounts are significantly higher. Almost 30k out of 150k.

If a company pays a farang less than the 50k - tax, but pays tax at the 50k rate, then where is the money going? It is in the books as having been paid to the farang, but it can then be pocketed by whoever makes the payments (or shared among several people).

That poor English school owner who only pays himself 50k too, yet somehow lives in a 15 million baht house and drives a Merc? Perhaps these schools are not as unprofitable as people think?

10 farang teachers being paid 30k each, but submitting tax for 50k, would mean around 160k of 'slush' money that can be extracted from the company into the owners pocket, tax free (except the small tax paid on behalf of the farangs).

The social insurance is supposed to be a copayment of 5% paid by the employer and 5% paid by the employee. Your company probably pays the 5% that is supposed to be deducted from your salary for you and considers it a fringe benefit.

You are quite right about the differance in what goes on the books and what actually gets paid to the employee. As long as the employee signs the docs saying he got the 50,000 per month, the owner of the company can pocket the money at a lower tax rate than they would normally pay. Or tax free if the workers make less than the minimum income for tax.

[mitrapaap]

As there isn't any "Middle-Europe" in the list but only "Europe" and "East Europe" I think it's a safe bet that Hungary falls into the East Europe category.

But they could mean Europe = European Union, then Hungary belongs to the same category as Sweden, Switzerland, Germany; what would definitely be very strange because there is still a huge gap between the old part of EU and the new-comers.

Guys, don't make a mess. Europe has been divided for decades and everybody somehow familiar with geography knows which countries used to belong to western and which to eastern europe. And no matter that the walls and obstacles have fallen, east and west are geographical terms that have not changed.

[Sunbelt Asia]

I've had a valid work permit for the past 6 years - as a teacher I've quite got close to 50k a month!!

Teachers are exempt from the minimum salary requirement for the extension of stay based on business.

Wolfmanjack's table is the correct one (and it's the same as I used), but his calculation is wrong. As in most countries, the stepped rate applies only to the taxable income above the threshold!

As 2 people have now effectively 'corrected' me, I'm beginning to think I could be wrong, except that Sunbelt has been paying my tax on this basis every month!

Can someone who is a qualified tax accountant confirm, I know I'm right, but in a democracy, that doesn't matter, I need to be in the majority!

Personal Income Tax ( Government Web site)

Taxable Income Tax Rate (%) Tax Amount Accumulated Tax

0 - 80,000 (before 2004) Exempt - -

0 - 100,000 (2004 onwards) Exempt - -

100,001 - 500,000 10 40,000 40,000

500,001 - 1,000,000 20 100,000 140,000

1,000,001 - 4,000,000 30 900,000 1,040,000

4,000,001 and over 37

Above is the correct chart and as you can see on 4 million Baht its not 1,200,000 Baht accumulated tax based on 30% tax, it's 1,040,000 Baht. As only at the next level are you charged the higher tax.

www.sunbeltasiagroup.com

[Sunbelt Asia]

I have a Work Permit and I am English but my salary is only 20,000 a month. How can this be. Can someone clarify please :-)

Thanks to sunbelt asia and the thaivisa guys for all the help!

Three ways...

1. You have a work permit and you do not have a extension of stay based on business. ( You have a multiple entry visa and do 90 day visa runs, married to a Thai or have a investment visa)

2. You are a teacher.

3. You have a extension of stay based on business but the company makes up your tax difference.

have recently been attending a class to teach English. My objective was to teach part-time (therefore making little money) in order to do something worthwhile and relieve some retitrement boredom. Since I would be making little money, please confirm, I would not meet the requirements for a Non-Immigrant B Visa. And, since one is not allowed to work at all on a retirement Visa, it seems there is no way for me to be able to teach part-time.

Teachers are exempt from the requirement. Even if you did another job, you can get a work permit and do 90 day visa runs and be legal.

have work permit too and working in the hospital. my salary 24.000 per month. I am very confused with this information. that's mean they will cancel my working permit. Could someone please clarify for me, thank you....

They won't cxl your work permit. The WP is not affected, its only the long term visa ( extension of stay based on business)

The salary requirements are used for normal extensions of stay by Immigration; not for work permits. I also believe there are exceptions made for teachers/journalists and others by Immigration.

Correct!

www.sunbeltasiagroup.com

[GreatMaleOne]

Oh...the dosh is here alright....

just avoid their minefields.

100K Baht plus a month......cn do.

HUggz & believe.

Rubbish

If that were the case then Thai employers of foreigners would have annual pay rises enforced on them by government - it simply doesn't happen. It's also not witten into the law anywhere, that your salary has to increment annually. This is Thailand, not Euroland.

I am agree with you... but...... I am owner of a (small) company since 5 years, then I have also to show every year to the immigration division that I have increased salary (few hundred bath) to all my employes. >>> Nam man paeng, as they like to say !!!!!!!!!!

That increase applies to your employees, not to you, and is in accordance with the minimum salary laws - if immigration is insisting you adjust salaries upwards every year, then stop being Kee Niaow and pay them above the minimum salary to begin with

[PeaceBlondie]

Sunbelt, I think you already answered this, but I'd appreciate a verification.

I always understood that on a retirement visa, I can't get a work permit (to teach English, half time). Are you saying that teachers are exempt merely from the minimum salaries, or are you saying that teachers can get a WP to work on a retirement visa?

Thanks.

[alainbkk]

Oh...the dosh is here alright....

just avoid their minefields.

100K Baht plus a month......cn do.

HUggz & believe.

Rubbish

If that were the case then Thai employers of foreigners would have annual pay rises enforced on them by government - it simply doesn't happen. It's also not witten into the law anywhere, that your salary has to increment annually. This is Thailand, not Euroland.

I am agree with you... but...... I am owner of a (small) company since 5 years, then I have also to show every year to the immigration division that I have increased salary (few hundred bath) to all my employes. >>> Nam man paeng, as they like to say !!!!!!!!!!

That increase applies to your employees, not to you, and is in accordance with the minimum salary laws - if immigration is insisting you adjust salaries upwards every year, then stop being Kee Niaow and pay them above the minimum salary to begin with

Guys,

I think they is a misunderstanding! It is not the problem to increase few hundred bath staff salaries if they gave a good work, and at the company we do it every year with 500-1000 of bath per staff. I just do not really understand why the immigration interfere with my staff salary and it is not to them to justified this increase because the rise of petrol. That's it.

GAZ Chiang Mai, your mention to my attention as "Kee Niaow" was not justified of course, so next time just thinking before to insult people. We can be fair instead to talk rubbish...