webfact Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Transport Ministry confident to resolve aviation safety problemsBANGKOK: -- The new permanent secretary of the Ministry of Transport was confident that Thailand's aviation safety standards will not be downgraded as it now has resolved several points observed by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA).This was expressed by the new permanent secretary of the Transport Ministry who took up the position today as the FAA will be carrying out an intensive assessment of the country’s aviation safety standards which is scheduled for October 26.Chatchai Thipsunavee, the permanent secretary of the Ministry of Transport, stated that the ministry with the cooperation from the Royal Thai Air Force would be able to solve the problems within the country’s civil aviation industry.He said that the country was making preparations to meet the FAA inspection scheduled for October 26.The FAA had listed 35 improvements to be made which included an increased number of civil aviation specialists and putting in place secondary security fallbacks.After completing the FAA inspection, he stated that the Thai civil aviation industry will then have to pass International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) assessment.Overall, Mr. Chatchai stated that he was confident that Thailand’s safety standard position will not be reduced from its past standing as 1st tier in international aviation industry to unfavourable 2nd tier nation. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/transport-ministry-confident-to-resolve-aviation-safety-problems -- Thai PBS 2015-10-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterjackson Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 If they had Aviation Safety as a priority, it wouldn't have come to this. Again, Thailand shows it's all about money. Only react when forced to do so. Proactive is obviously a word missing from the Thai vocabulary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDan Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 "...Thailand’s safety standard position will not be reduced from its past standing as 1st tier in international aviation industry to unfavourable 2nd tier nation" They do have a way with words. Info share: LoS is ALREADY red-flagged! Someone should inform the good Secretary that he's now trying to play catch up. I'm trying to link the info directly from the ICAO website, but the graph is not loading. Sure wish we had a single internet gateway instead of the individual ISPs blocking selective information... http://www.icao.int/safety/pages/usoap-results.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Jones Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Overall, Mr. Chatchai stated that he was confident that Thailand’s safety standard position will not be reduced from its past standing as 1st tier in international aviation industry to unfavourable 2nd tier nation. As mentioned Thailand is already underachivers when it come to Aviation safety (and all other safety) and I have no doubt that Mr. Chatchai will be sadly disappointed to get his arse kicked by both FAA and ICAO ... bye bye Thai Airways ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 So they have suddenly hired enough internationally qualified staff? These staff are sufficiently competent in the language of international aviation (English)? These are the basic fails of the previous inspections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 If they haven't actually done anything yet, can I suggest they shut up and get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigermonkey Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 So they have suddenly hired enough internationally qualified staff? These staff are sufficiently competent in the language of international aviation (English)? These are the basic fails of the previous inspections. It is obvious that the DCA has no intention of seeking "internationally qualified staff". Thais need no help from outside since Thais are the world's best at all such things, and the Thai military are the best in Thailand. "Chatchai Thipsunavee, the permanent secretary of the Ministry of Transport, stated that the ministry with the cooperation from the Royal Thai Air Force would be able to solve the problems within the country’s civil aviation industry." In reality, the RTAF knows virtually nothing about civll aviation. However, we don't need to worry about their command of English; all Thai students are taught English from an early age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casindonet Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 And if they are downgraded, it will be the fault of all the pesky farangs who do not understand thainess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcmjc Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 BANGKOK: -- The new permanent secretary of the Ministry of Transport was confident that Thailand's aviation safety standards will not be downgraded as it now has resolved several points observed by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). This was expressed by the new permanent secretary of the Transport Ministry who took up the position today as the FAA will be carrying out an intensive assessment of the country’s aviation safety standards which is scheduled for October 26. Chatchai Thipsunavee, the permanent secretary of the Ministry of Transport, stated that the ministry with the cooperation from the Royal Thai Air Force would be able to solve the problems within the country’s civil aviation industry. He said that the country was making preparations to meet the FAA inspection scheduled for October 26. The FAA had listed 35 improvements to be made which included an increased number of civil aviation specialists and putting in place secondary security fallbacks.After completing the FAA inspection, he stated that the Thai civil aviation industry will then have to pass International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) assessment. Overall, Mr. Chatchai stated that he was confident that Thailand’s safety standard position will not be reduced from its past standing as 1st tier in international aviation industry to unfavourable 2nd tier nation. Job done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean in udon Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 It's always 'confident to resolve', '80% completed', 'committee convened to....' One day, I hope to read a headline that something has actually been achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thhMan Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 If they had Aviation Safety as a priority, it wouldn't have come to this. Again, Thailand shows it's all about money. Only react when forced to do so. Proactive is obviously a word missing from the Thai vocabulary. So is "sorry" and "my fault" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegee Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Instead of resolve, solve, irradicate, cure, etc. isn't it about time the Thai dreamers learned the word 'improve'? These babies are so concerned with saving face you'd think they'd be more cautious realistic. Instead they spout absolutes they can't possibly live up to and lose more face for the world to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutha289 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 "...Thailand’s safety standard position will not be reduced from its past standing as 1st tier in international aviation industry to unfavourable 2nd tier nation" They do have a way with words. Info share: LoS is ALREADY red-flagged! Someone should inform the good Secretary that he's now trying to play catch up. I'm trying to link the info directly from the ICAO website, but the graph is not loading. Sure wish we had a single internet gateway instead of the individual ISPs blocking selective information... http://www.icao.int/safety/pages/usoap-results.aspx Attached is a screen shot of the graph that DirtyDan mentions with the information for Operations / Oversight highlighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutha289 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 "...Thailand’s safety standard position will not be reduced from its past standing as 1st tier in international aviation industry to unfavourable 2nd tier nation" They do have a way with words. Info share: LoS is ALREADY red-flagged! Someone should inform the good Secretary that he's now trying to play catch up. I'm trying to link the info directly from the ICAO website, but the graph is not loading. Sure wish we had a single internet gateway instead of the individual ISPs blocking selective information... http://www.icao.int/safety/pages/usoap-results.aspx Attached is a screen shot of the graph that DirtyDan mentions with the information for Operations / Oversight highlighted. And Thailand is indeed red flagged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 If they had Aviation Safety as a priority, it wouldn't have come to this. Again, Thailand shows it's all about money. Only react when forced to do so. Proactive is obviously a word missing from the Thai vocabulary. There is only one type of safety,....... Face safety until the doctors scream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckmandon Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 "...Thailand’s safety standard position will not be reduced from its past standing as 1st tier in international aviation industry to unfavourable 2nd tier nation" They do have a way with words. Info share: LoS is ALREADY red-flagged! Someone should inform the good Secretary that he's now trying to play catch up. I'm trying to link the info directly from the ICAO website, but the graph is not loading. Sure wish we had a single internet gateway instead of the individual ISPs blocking selective information... http://www.icao.int/safety/pages/usoap-results.aspx Attached is a screen shot of the graph that DirtyDan mentions with the information for Operations / Oversight highlighted. Mai ben rai. Good enough for Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 So if this was scheduled for Oct 26.. And the results would be released 'within one month'... Is the silence not a little strange ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) Talk about timing.. Hours later the FAA downgrade Thailand. EDIT bangkok post.. cant link... FAA downgrades Thai aviation Edited December 1, 2015 by LivinLOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-o-cha, when asked about Davies' comments, didn't exactly give the envoy a helping hand. "It's up to him [Davies]. Next time don't send anyone to talk about trade with me then," he said. I think this is whats called a 'raise'.. Nice diplomacy there Uncle.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 http://linkis.com/uk.reuters.com/artic/S3SYa One that this forum allows linking too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodknock Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 latest news, FAA downgrades Thai. Aviation to cat.2 from cat.1. wow, what is PM going to do!! who is he going to blame!! what happens when countries will not allow Thai. airlines to land. there goes the trourist!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dru2 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 latest news, FAA downgrades Thai. Aviation to cat.2 from cat.1. wow, what is PM going to do!! who is he going to blame!! what happens when countries will not allow Thai. airlines to land. there goes the trourist!! It's not just this government, nor indeed the one before - not that I am excusing either of them. It's symptomatic of a deep malaise that goes back many years and will, I expect, see a similar outcome for the Thai fishing industry. It's not Prayuth. It's not Yingluck. It's not Abhisit nor indeed Thaksin. It's a general inability to recognize or acknowledge the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 latest news, FAA downgrades Thai. Aviation to cat.2 from cat.1. wow, what is PM going to do!! who is he going to blame!! what happens when countries will not allow Thai. airlines to land. there goes the trourist!! With a Category 2 rating, Thailand’s carriers can continue existing service to the United States. They will not be allowed to establish new service to the United States. Source FAA Press release 2015 Dec. 01st http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=19814 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Is the cunning plan fly in 26 million tourists then stop all flights out kinda Merkel plan for more people, or perhaps there is a more intelligent master plan so discreet its neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Wahahaha ..... Mega fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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