How do u get a usa degree certifiefd in thailand?

[crickets]

My friends are trying to get there degree certified by the usa embassy who say they dont do it but immigration are insistant u can and must to get work permit. Any one have any advice. Thanks in advance.

[taxout]

No, the embassy can't certify a diploma or transcript.

You need to contact the college registrar and ask for a notarized copy of your diploma. Perhaps Immigration will accept that as a certified copy.

If not, then you must have the notarization legalized. This is a a complicated procedure, since Thailand does not accept the much simpler apostille procedure.

In short, you get a state official to certify the notary's signature, then the Thai embassy/consulate to certify the state official's signature. Obviously, getting these various signatures will take some time.

(I'm assuming here we're talking about a U.S. degree and Thai Immigration.)

Edited October 9, 2015 by taxout

[DP25]

They can't certify a degree. All they can do is notarize an affidavit. You friend can try writing an affidavit and getting it stamped and seeing if that's enough.

[CharlieH]

May be of more benefit posting this in the Teaching forum.

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[taxout]

Yes, it's ultimately a question of how fussy Immigration is. If they will accept a sworn statement by you that attached is a true and correct copy of your diploma, then you can have this sworn out at the embassy. Note that you have to prepare the affidavit ahead of time yourself, in proper form for a legal affidavit; the consul will not draft it for you.

Edited October 9, 2015 by taxout

[TerryLH]

From the OP, it doesn't look like it's immigration that wants the document. They told the poster that it's what was needed at the Labor Office to get a work permit.

I'd ask the employer to find out from the Labor Office what they want.

[MadMac]

Why would you have to certify a degree? It's just that. If someone asks you for such thing, tell him bullocks.

[Too]

Hello,

Which visa are your friends staying in Thailand on now?

What are they going to be in Thailand? Teachers? You

need a graduation certificate and academic transcript

from your university to apply for a Non-B for teaching.

If they don't have them with them now, they could have

their family member in the US go to their university to

get the documents and send the papers to them here

in Thailand. This is exactly what I did. It took me 3-4

weeks, though.

Edited October 10, 2015 by Too

[BudRight]

Dozens of companies provide education background checks for a small fee. Why doesn't the Ministry of Labor just contract with one and pass the cost (optionally of course) along to the applicant?

Oh...that makes sense. So no chance of doing that. Instead we'll require something irrelevant anyway that doesn't exist. Yeah good idea.

[Scott]

I am not sure which bureaucratic entity is wanting it, but you can have a sealed copy of your transcript, with the school seal stamped on the envelope sent to the appropriate agency (for a fee, of course). I believe this is the procedure that is used by the TCT.

[The manic]

Transcript?

[Scott]

Yes, the transcript shows that you have completed the requirements for the degree.

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.

[The manic]

Yes, the transcript shows that you have completed the requirements for the degree.

We issue Degree certificates in the UK. I have two degrees. One from the 70s and one from the 90s. I have no transcripts. What do they look like?

[Scott]

The transcript lists all the subjects you took, the number of credit hours and the grades received.

[Suradit69]

Why would you have to certify a degree? It's just that. If someone asks you for such thing, tell him bullocks.

From the US it's probably a transcript of record which includes the degree(s) earned, and insisting that it be verified/certified as true is fairly common especially these days when it's easy to produce fraudulent documents. Usually that's done by having the university send the transcript directly to the employer and the transcript would (probably) have a raised seal on each page.

When I was first employed in the UAE they wanted the transcript notarized or some such thing. As I recall I contacted the offices at the US universities responsible for issuing transcripts and each had someone in their office provide a notary seal in addition to the university raised seal and then sent it all directly to the correct office at the UAEU. Whatever they did apparently satisfied the UAE University's requirements. See item one in my post below with information from the State Dept.

1. Obtain from the registrar of the University an official true copy of the credentials. The registrar should then execute an affidavit attesting to the validity of the document before a notary public. Frequently the business offices of colleges and universities have notaries public.

Conversely, in another country they wanted to see the actual degree or a certified copy. In the US the degree certificate is usually regarded more as something to hang on a wall or file away, never to be seen again, whereas the transcript of record is what employers want to see.

Edited October 15, 2015 by Suradit69

[Suradit69]

To the O/P

You might also check this out: http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/abroad/legal-matters/academic-credentials.html

Authentication of American Academic Credentials for Use Abroad I. Colleges, Universities and Other Post-Secondary Institutions

1. Obtain from the registrar of the University an official true copy of the credentials. The registrar should then execute an affidavit attesting to the validity of the document before a notary public. Frequently the business offices of colleges and universities have notaries public.
2. Take the document, with the notarial certificate to the state Notary Public Administrator for authentication. If the country where the document will be used is a party to the Hague Apostille Convention, the state Notary Public Administrator will affix an Apostille certificate and no further authentication is necessary. See the Hague Conference on Private International Law Apostille Page for a current list of countries party to the treaty. The treaty is in force many countries throughout the world.
3. If the country is not a party to the Hague Apostille Convention, the state Notary Public Administrator will affix a state authentication certificate. You should then send the document to the Authentications Office of the Department of State, following the instruction on that office’s web page.
4. If necessary, obtain authentication of the U.S. Department of State seal at the foreign embassy in Washington, D.C. The embassy in Washington, DC of the country in which the document is to be used can tell you if this is required.

[csabo]

Why would you have to certify a degree? It's just that. If someone asks you for such thing, tell him bullocks.

maybe this is why...

http://www.diplomasandtranscripts.com

[gandalf12]

Why would you have to certify a degree? It's just that. If someone asks you for such thing, tell him bullocks.

Trouble is a lot of "degrees" have been bought and have no validity whatsoever. I have had to have my degree attested as being genuine and true. I did this through a lawyer in Bangkok who sent it to the authorities in the UK.

[mrwebb8825]

To the O/P

You might also check this out: http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/abroad/legal-matters/academic-credentials.html

Authentication of American Academic Credentials for Use Abroad I. Colleges, Universities and Other Post-Secondary Institutions

1. Obtain from the registrar of the University an official true copy of the credentials. The registrar should then execute an affidavit attesting to the validity of the document before a notary public. Frequently the business offices of colleges and universities have notaries public.
2. Take the document, with the notarial certificate to the state Notary Public Administrator for authentication. If the country where the document will be used is a party to the Hague Apostille Convention, the state Notary Public Administrator will affix an Apostille certificate and no further authentication is necessary. See the Hague Conference on Private International Law Apostille Page for a current list of countries party to the treaty. The treaty is in force many countries throughout the world.
3. If the country is not a party to the Hague Apostille Convention, the state Notary Public Administrator will affix a state authentication certificate. You should then send the document to the Authentications Office of the Department of State, following the instruction on that office’s web page.
4. If necessary, obtain authentication of the U.S. Department of State seal at the foreign embassy in Washington, D.C. The embassy in Washington, DC of the country in which the document is to be used can tell you if this is required.

seems like an awfully lot to help kids learn that the wheels on a bus do in fact, go round and round.

[Mencken]

I think it's more to weed out flunkies and losers.

We don't all teach pratom, in fact I question the man teaching in grades lower than pratom 6. It's not male and beyond weird.

I'd very much have that joker under the creeper microscope.

[crickets]

Apologies. The degree doesnt need to be certified just a form filled out saying that its not bullshit from you. Its called a statutory declaration in australia and a affidavit in england. Its all sorted out now and thanks for all your help.

[Scott]

The OP's question has been answered.

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