Can it REALLY be genuine if she won't French kiss?

[phuketruski]

In my experience of Thai ladies, if they know how to kiss like that then they have been with a few (many?) "ferangs" as nearly all Thai females I have encountered do not do that, some will try it, but its not the norm for them,

Thais "sniff" kiss as the norm in my experience.

Personally, if I met a Thai female, and she stuck her tongue down my throat, I'd drop her like a bad habit, as the mileage on the clock is way too high for my taste, and her background would be very questionable to me.

roland the rat it correct , Thai and Cambod alike do no kiss, they prefer to smell you.

many times thai bird walk up to me and sniff my hair and tshirt then comment if im clean or dirty

[RolandRat]

Just curious here, but if this "french kissing" is so much "the norm" in Thai society as was stated by some, then how come it is never EVER seen in any Thai movies, Tv shows, soaps etc ???/ Surely something that is so much "the norm" would be included. We often see the heads meet as if to "suggest" that may happen, but it could equally change to a "sniff".

I still maintain, and is my opinion that for the "majority" of the Thai population "french kissing" is NOT normal practice, but something they have acquired in recent years or been introduced to by a western partner.

[theguyfromanotherforum]

Jeez. My wife is from PHS and met me just as she graduated. Never had a boyfriend in her life. A Frenchie is innate to a woman. <deleted>.

If she ain't doing it, she ain't interested in you.

"Jeez"

So if I have been French kissed in a BJ bar it is then safe to assume (by your narrow minded assumption) your wife is not who she says she is.

[MaeJoMTB]

"If you force a French kiss on her in private.....you may face rape charges....."

Dear Umbanda,

If a Thai girl goes somewhere 'private' with you,it is assumed by Thai law, that she has already consented to sex.

You can kiss her privates or anywhere else.

[MaeJoMTB]

Sniff kiss is the accepted tradition here → shows intimacy & respect....And that might be after seeing each other for awhile....

The Thais by and large are a non kissing society - just as they also are a non hugging society.....

Any gal that is quick with her tongue has been experiencing and is aggressive in western ways....You have to wonder/worry about how/why they've come know/employ the western "triggers"......

Ridiculous but largely consistent with the observations of older men in Thailand whose younger partners generally can't bring themselves to exchange saliva with them.

Total nonsense to suggest that a Thai woman who can French kiss will have learned this from foreign men.

Next we'll be told that Thai women who have sex out of wedlock will have learned that from farangs

French kissing is ABSOLUTELY the norm among young couples here.

Go to a Thai bar or club with lots of young folks - then come back and tell us that sniff-kissing is the norm.

555,

Some of these old dudes are amazing.

They take up with some Thai woman who only wants their money, then make up silly excuses for totally explainable behaviour, and try to tell us it's the norm.

If she won't have your tongue in her mouth, it's because you revolt her.

I was totally surprised by some of the places Thai girls have stuck their tongues .....

Not to mention the places they invited me to stick my tongue!

Sniff-kissing is what I do with my Thai daughter.

[eaglesflight]

In Thailand...and with a good girl?

If you force a French kiss on her in private.....you may face rape charges.....

If you do it in public.... you will be jailed and tortured without charges...

If you do it in front of her family.... you will be cremated against your will...

Why would you want to french kiss a girl in front of her family? I didn't even do that in England.

[JLCrab]

Thanks for the info from Mr. Top Dog that, if she won't French Kiss, she doesn't really love me. That way, if I decide to call it quits after 6 years, I can tell her that despite all her protestations to the contrary, she really doesn't love me and I'm crushed ... genuinely crushed.

BTW we both use Listerine Original so, if that doesn't cut it for me, it doesn't cut it for her either.

[pgrahmm]

Thanks for the info from Mr. Top Dog that, if she won't French Kiss, she doesn't really love me. That way, if I decide to call it quits after 6 years, I can tell her that despite all her protestations to the contrary, she really doesn't love me and I'm crushed ... genuinely crushed.

BTW we both use Listerine Original so, if that doesn't cut it for me, it doesn't cut it for her either.

↑↑↑↑ Shhhhhh - Don't spoil it....It's fun watching the wind up toys making fools of themselves - now we have to wait for their next exploits.....

[Cypress Hill]

Thanks for the info from Mr. Top Dog that, if she won't French Kiss, she doesn't really love me. That way, if I decide to call it quits after 6 years, I can tell her that despite all her protestations to the contrary, she really doesn't love me and I'm crushed ... genuinely crushed.

BTW we both use Listerine Original so, if that doesn't cut it for me, it doesn't cut it for her either.

↑↑↑↑ Shhhhhh - Don't spoil it....It's fun watching the wind up toys making fools of themselves - now we have to wait for their next exploits.....

You're lying to yourself, buddy - the most egregious of situations.

I realise some relationships have a guy who's happy to forego certain things if he's feeling on a the kind of woman he'd never have had a chance with in his previous life.

If that's you, then you should say so instead of disingenuously trying to convince fully grown men that Thai women are somehow completely different from the rest of the world's female population. Passion is passion anywhere in the world - if your bird is "sniff-kissing" you in the throes of lovemaking, you're bein' played.

As for the silly little man your post quoted, he SHOULD feel crushed; he's a long-term resident of "Denialand"

He actually believes his much younger girlfriend loves him.

Of COURSE she bloody well protests to the contrary - she wants to keep the money flowing.

He should pull the funding; THEN come back and tell us she loves him

[MaeJoMTB]

If that's you, then you should say so instead of disingenuously trying to convince fully grown men that Thai women are somehow completely different from the rest of the world's female population. Passion is passion anywhere in the world - if your bird is "sniff-kissing" you in the throes of lovemaking, you're bein' played.

As the hookers back home used to say to customers "my lips are for my boyfriend".

[JLCrab]

Thank you. If this is denial then I'm loving every minute of it.

What the Hill-guy doesn't seem to realize is that -- if the TGF of 6 years doesn't really love me -- I DON'T CARE.

The girl could be straight off the FHM cover and, if she doesn't really love me, she sure seems willing to go to the max to prove otherwise which is just fine by me.

[Gecko123]

I've been married for 12 years. My wife and I have an emotional and romantic bond which I think many would be envious of. We have been through a lot together, and I know we love each other. We enjoy one another's company, and laugh together a lot. I'm fluent in Thai, and I would say our communication is excellent. I am very confident that our sex life is mutually satisfying. If some people here feel a need to belittle another man's marriage in order to bolster their self-importance or self-confidence, I'm not fazed by it. But, for the record, I find it incredibly tacky and classless, even on an anonymous internet forum.

Whenever I have asked a Thai woman what she values most in a man, the number one answer has always been "kindness." They also seem to like men who are affable, easy-going, and have a good sense of humor. Of course, physical attraction is important, but no Thai woman's ever told me that being a "good French kisser" is the most important quality in a boyfriend/husband. Even though this thread is obstensibly about kissing, it's also about generating intimacy, romance, and sexual passion in a relationship. My point is that there are other important ways to generate passion in a relationship than being skilled at knotting a maraschino cherry stem with your tongue.

I'm sorry but some people here strike me as so unkind, unaffable, humorless, unpleasant, and chronically negative that I find it next to impossible to believe that they are having sex with anyone without money changing hands. My advice to them is that if they are frustrated (and who but the frustrated belittles other people's sex lives?) to focus more on improving your interpersonal/relationship skills rather than focusing on your bedroom skills. All I can say is that strategy has been successful for me.

And just a final comment: To say that someone's sex life is devoid of passion if it doesn't involve French kissing is idiotic when you consider that even today and throughout history there have many cultures and long periods of time where kissing of any kind was not in fashion. Are you saying that for whole cultures and thousands of years people had passion-less sex because they didn't French kiss? Eskimos don't really love one another? Can you be any more silly?

[MaeJoMTB]

I'm sorry but some people here strike me as so unkind, unaffable, humorless, unpleasant, and chronically negative that I find it next to impossible to believe that they are having sex with anyone without money changing hands. My advice to them is that if they are frustrated (and who but the frustrated belittles other people's sex lives?) to focus more on improving your interpersonal/relationship skills rather than focusing on your bedroom skills. All I can say is that strategy has been successful for me.

What sort of woman in her 20s or early 30s would sleep with a guy 60+, without money changing hands?????

Personality of the guy doesn't matter, without money, it ain't gonna happen.

Kind/unkind, humourless/humerous, nasty/nice, selfish/generous, ugly/hansum, good/evil, it don't matter.

They don't care, that isn't why they are sleeping with you.

Stop giving them money, and see how long they hang around!

Lucky that I have money to spend, and aren't hung up about paying for it.

PS

When you ask a woman what she wants, she will lie in an attempt to manipulate you.

That's what women do, Thai or not.

(not to mention kindness to a Thai means giving them money/gold/house/car)

[manarak]

If that's you, then you should say so instead of disingenuously trying to convince fully grown men that Thai women are somehow completely different from the rest of the world's female population. Passion is passion anywhere in the world - if your bird is "sniff-kissing" you in the throes of lovemaking, you're bein' played.

As the hookers back home used to say to customers "my lips are for my boyfriend".

well, not all their lips...

[simon43]

Sniff kissing is the equivalent of a Western peck on the cheek

Total hogwash.

Sniff kissing can be very erotic and send a Thai gal 'wild'.

As for a French-kissing Thai gal ==> best look in the gogo bars for them if that's what you expect from a Thai girlfriend.

[Cypress Hill]

Sniff kissing is the equivalent of a Western peck on the cheek

Total hogwash.

Sniff kissing can be very erotic and send a Thai gal 'wild'.

That's called "faking it"

[eaglesflight]

Sniff kissing is the equivalent of a Western peck on the cheek

Total hogwash.

Sniff kissing can be very erotic and send a Thai gal 'wild'.

As for a French-kissing Thai gal ==> best look in the gogo bars for them if that's what you expect from a Thai girlfriend.

Or you could just date Thai girls with a modern education / upbringing. Quite ridiculous of you to insinuate the only girls in Thailand who french kiss are prostitutes. Says more about the girls you date really; I'm thinking strictly provincial and not very worldly.

[Cypress Hill]

Wow! My glasses have steamed up with the sheer HEAT generated by this sniff-kissing.

[Fabricus]

Sniff kissing is the equivalent of a Western peck on the cheek

Total hogwash.

Sniff kissing can be very erotic and send a Thai gal 'wild'.

As for a French-kissing Thai gal ==> best look in the gogo bars for them if that's what you expect from a Thai girlfriend.

Or you could just date Thai girls with a modern education / upbringing. Quite ridiculous of you to insinuate the only girls in Thailand who french kiss are prostitutes. Says more about the girls you date really; I'm thinking strictly provincial and not very worldly.

"Says more about the girls you date really; I'm thinking strictly provincial and not very worldly"

Surely that describes the vast majority of girls in Thailand.

[eaglesflight]

Sniff kissing is the equivalent of a Western peck on the cheek

Total hogwash.

Sniff kissing can be very erotic and send a Thai gal 'wild'.

As for a French-kissing Thai gal ==> best look in the gogo bars for them if that's what you expect from a Thai girlfriend.

Or you could just date Thai girls with a modern education / upbringing. Quite ridiculous of you to insinuate the only girls in Thailand who french kiss are prostitutes. Says more about the girls you date really; I'm thinking strictly provincial and not very worldly.

"Says more about the girls you date really; I'm thinking strictly provincial and not very worldly"

Surely that describes the vast majority of girls in Thailand.

Sure, you're probably right. But there's no need to call more worldly girls prostitutes. And yes, perhaps many of those provincial, unworldly girls are great french kissers too; I haven't had the pleasure of trying them all so I may be doing them a disservice.

[fang37]

How long have you been in LOS?

My guess - a generous one - 3 days.

[YeahSiam]

Thank you. If this is denial then I'm loving every minute of it.

What the Hill-guy doesn't seem to realize is that -- if the TGF of 6 years doesn't really love me -- I DON'T CARE.

The girl could be straight off the FHM cover and, if she doesn't really love me, she sure seems willing to go to the max to prove otherwise which is just fine by me.

Sure you care. If you

didn't, you wouldn't be

protesting so much.

Try hiking the monthly

retainer - see if she'll

frenchie you then

[JLCrab]

Thank you. If this is denial then I'm loving every minute of it.

What the Hill-guy doesn't seem to realize is that -- if the TGF of 6 years doesn't really love me -- I DON'T CARE.

The girl could be straight off the FHM cover and, if she doesn't really love me, she sure seems willing to go to the max to prove otherwise which is just fine by me.

Sure you care. If you

didn't, you wouldn't be

protesting so much.

Try hiking the monthly

retainer - see if she'll

frenchie you then

No but thanks for your concern. A t-t in the mouth on the current monthly retainer is just fine by me -- and glorious t-ts they are.

[pgrahmm]

Thank you. If this is denial then I'm loving every minute of it.

What the Hill-guy doesn't seem to realize is that -- if the TGF of 6 years doesn't really love me -- I DON'T CARE.

The girl could be straight off the FHM cover and, if she doesn't really love me, she sure seems willing to go to the max to prove otherwise which is just fine by me.

Sure you care. If you

didn't, you wouldn't be

protesting so much.

Try hiking the monthly

retainer - see if she'll

frenchie you then

No but thanks for your concern. A t-t in the mouth on the current monthly retainer is just fine by me -- and glorious t-ts they are.

A bust in the mouth trumps a french kiss.....

[YeahSiam]

Thank you. If this is denial then I'm loving every minute of it.

What the Hill-guy doesn't seem to realize is that -- if the TGF of 6 years doesn't really love me -- I DON'T CARE.

The girl could be straight off the FHM cover and, if she doesn't really love me, she sure seems willing to go to the max to prove otherwise which is just fine by me.

Sure you care. If you

didn't, you wouldn't be

protesting so much.

Try hiking the monthly

retainer - see if she'll

frenchie you then

No but thanks for your concern. A t-t in the mouth on the current monthly retainer is just fine by me -- and glorious t-ts they are.

Well that was a bit of a

U-turn, wasn't it? From

vehement insistence

your young girlfriend

genuinely loves you to

pretence that you don't

care she doesn't love

you, won't french

kiss you and you

regard her as little more

than a sex object.

Thanks for proving e

right

[JLCrab]

Right as rain. Happy now?

[YeahSiam]

Yes

[JLCrab]

Yes

Good. She was little more than a sex object this morning but I lied and told her I loved her anyway.

For several years I rented a service room at a hotel. When told me they wanted me to be out by the end of the month, one of the reasons they gave me is that, when the TGF comes over without wearing a bra, it creates too much distraction among the guests and the hotel staff.

[arunsakda]

I did not find myself to be compatible with most Thai women and lost interest in them long ago. The kissing, usually less than passionate and especially do not care for the ubiquitous "Oi Oi Oi". Don't know where that comes from but I'll stick with Japanese, and maybe Korean, thank you very much.

"Oy, it has been said, isn't a word--it's a vocabulary. Within it resides all the pain of the past, the discomfort of the present, and the fear of the future"

- Rabbi Benjamin Blech

[NoshowJones]

The only thing UK women have over the Thais, they are much better kissers, although not necessary better in bed.