thaimite Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Microsoft is downloading Windows 10 to your machine 'just in case' according to this very interesting article in the InquirereFor the many people with limited download packages in Thaiand this is dserious/ I must wonder how long before this installer gets "accidently" triggered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The link in your post is bad...takes you to the ThaiVisa post a new topic page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaimite Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 The link in your post is bad...takes you to the ThaiVisa post a new topic page. Sorry about that. I hope this link works MICROSOFT HAS CONFIRMED that Windows 10 is being downloaded to computers whether or not users have opted in. An INQUIRER reader pointed out to us that, despite not having 'reserved' a copy of Windows 10, he had found that the ~BT folder, which has been the home of images of the new operating system since before rollout began, had appeared on his system. He had no plans to upgrade and had not put in a reservation request. He told us: "The symptoms are repeated failed 'Upgrade to Windows 10' in the WU update history and a huge 3.5GB to 6GB hidden folder labelled '$Windows.~BT' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t8769 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I would avoid Windows 10, I find it worse than Windows 7. I am having to convert my PCs back to Win7 and if you don't do this within 30 days, it means re-installing the whole PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I would avoid Windows 10, I find it worse than Windows 7. I am having to convert my PCs back to Win7 and if you don't do this within 30 days, it means re-installing the whole PC. Well it wouldn't, if you made an image BEFORE doing the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCor Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I would avoid Windows 10, I find it worse than Windows 7. I am having to convert my PCs back to Win7 and if you don't do this within 30 days, it means re-installing the whole PC. Well it wouldn't, if you made an image BEFORE doing the update. ...or renamed the C:\Windows.old and $Windows.BT temp directories containing your previous OS rollback. How to rollback Windows 10 after 30 days limit theWindowsClub | Anand Khanse | 20 Aug 2015 Preferable to image the drive, or active boot/OS partitions. At least then you know a recovery should work. Also, once you've successfully "upgraded" to Windows 10, the Microsoft Auth servers will preserve your Windows 10 activation for the life of that hardware, allowing you to reinstall Windows 10 again on that hardware anytime in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungbing Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I'll still stay with XP, thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaClub Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I hate to sound paranoid, but I am very careful about not downloading free programs, going to questionable sites, etc. My computer has never slowed down in the three and a half years I have had it (with WIN 7). My Win 7 is fully licensed and I get all the security updates. Suddenly, since around the time of the announcement of the "free" Win 10, my computer boot-up and ther things have slowed way down. It has even completely locked up several times, requiring a hard reboot. It never locked up even once before the slow down started. Coincidence? Has anybody else experienced this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Worse is if you work from a smaller SSD and don't know why the free space gets smaller and smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I hate to sound paranoid, but I am very careful about not downloading free programs, going to questionable sites, etc. My computer has never slowed down in the three and a half years I have had it (with WIN 7). My Win 7 is fully licensed and I get all the security updates. Suddenly, since around the time of the announcement of the "free" Win 10, my computer boot-up and ther things have slowed way down. It has even completely locked up several times, requiring a hard reboot. It never locked up even once before the slow down started. Coincidence? Has anybody else experienced this? Yep... I have been on holidays for the past 4 weeks, so after installing all the latest Windows and AV updates this morning, my Win7 PC is running like a dog... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) My Windows 10 machine is running like a dog. It's getting about 15Mbps down while the Win 7 desktop on my other desk in this room is getting 57 down. The desktop is wireless with a PCI wireless NIC. This is in the same room with the Cisco wireless router in the room. I went into device manager and tweaked the settings and sped it up from about 10 to 15 but I have 50+ available. My suspicion (confirmed at the manufacturer's website) is that there is no Win 10 driver for the wireless NIC so I ordered a fast USB NIC with a Win 10 driver and I'll try that instead. I hate to have a USB NIC hanging out of my laptop, though. Google Chrome and Firefox are both slow and sometimes crash. They lock up. I never had these problems with 7, 8, or 8.1. I just ordered a new laptop with 10 factory installed and I hope it's better. If it isn't it's going back. I'm usually not a complainer and try to be a problem solver but I've really struggled with this Win 8.1 - Win 10 upgrade and I'm thinking of reverting with an image I made just before the upgrade. At this point I'll also have to install some backups and tweak some things because changes are always happening. Cheers. Edited October 19, 2015 by NeverSure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I would avoid Windows 10, I find it worse than Windows 7. I am having to convert my PCs back to Win7 and if you don't do this within 30 days, it means re-installing the whole PC. Same happened to me when I "upgraded my notebook to 10. But there's something not okay and it wasn't successful. Only with my backup, made with Acronis, I could get my system back where it was. Using a Acronis boot able CD. All I've learned day by day, week by week, year by tear. Back up, back up and back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) My Windows 10 machine is running like a dog. It's getting about 15Mbps down while the Win 7 desktop on my other desk in this room is getting 57 down. The desktop is wireless with a PCI wireless NIC. This is in the same room with the Cisco wireless router in the room. I went into device manager and tweaked the settings and sped it up from about 10 to 15 but I have 50+ available. My suspicion (confirmed at the manufacturer's website) is that there is no Win 10 driver for the wireless NIC so I ordered a fast USB NIC with a Win 10 driver and I'll try that instead. I hate to have a USB NIC hanging out of my laptop, though. Google Chrome and Firefox are both slow and sometimes crash. They lock up. I never had these problems with 7, 8, or 8.1. I just ordered a new laptop with 10 factory installed and I hope it's better. If it isn't it's going back. I'm usually not a complainer and try to be a problem solver but I've really struggled with this Win 8.1 - Win 10 upgrade and I'm thinking of reverting with an image I made just before the upgrade. At this point I'll also have to install some backups and tweak some things because changes are always happening. Cheers. I run W 10 on my PC at home and on one school computer. I've just bought a second hand PC, older model, but a great machine to use it at school in my free time. Bought it for 1,500 baht, put a new hard drive for 2 K in, added 2 GB of DDR RAM ( 830 baht at Advice) and the machine is really amazingly fast. Oh and a 1 GB graphic card i already had at home was very helpful. I've got the same problem, a much higher download speed with Windows 7. There's no reason to try Windows 10 on this well functioning machine. But I'll not put Windows 10 on this machine, as too many programs aren't compatible with Windows 10. A lot of weird things happened during my Windows 10 upgrades. I received a message that I'd lose my language packs on my PC at home, but I didn't. Then at my notebook, I couldn't roll back to the old system and that goes on and on. Edited October 19, 2015 by lostinisaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCor Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 My Windows 10 machine is running like a dog. It's getting about 15Mbps down while the Win 7 desktop on my other desk in this room is getting 57 down. ... My suspicion (confirmed at the manufacturer's website) is that there is no Win 10 driver for the wireless NIC I would think a 'real diagnostics test' would be to repeat your speed tests using the wired Ethernet interface. Does Windows Device Manager indicate issues (yellow triangle) on any other sub-systems? Does the laptop maker's support website (or user forum board) explicitly say the 8.1 drivers WON'T work, and have you tried installing them? Also, many times you can go direct to the sub-component manufacturer and download drivers directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaClub Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Wow, read this article. It looks like Microsoft is giving "updates" that are, boiled down, nothing but trojans. https://privacy.f-secure.com/2015/09/02/you-dont-need-to-upgrade-to-windows-10-to-get-some-of-its-worst-privacy-features/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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