webfact Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Phuket receives big budget for CCTV camerasPhuket GazetteThe governor hopes that the installation of new cameras will help reduce the crime rate. Photo: Gazette filePHUKET: -- The Department of Tourism has approved a 117-million-baht budget for Phuket to set up 120 new CCTV cameras throughout the island.Under the campaign 'Phuket, a peaceful city', the installation of the cameras aims to boost island security, as well as to assure the safety of locals and tourists, confirmed Phuket Governor Chamroen Tipayapongtada.Full story: http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket-news/Phuket-receives-big-budget-CCTV-cameras/62329?desktopversion-- Phuket Gazette 2015-11-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansgruber Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 So a little over 1 million baht per camera. Hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 So a little over 1 million baht per camera. Hmmm. That price does also include 120 big screen monitors of course, one for each of the cameras (maybe), lots of cabling everywhere (unless they go wireless), and then of course you need a big new room to put them all in (so maybe that extension to the Police HQ is on the cards), and additional staff to watch them all, then you'll need some training for the staff, and nice comfortable chairs for them to sit on ... the list goes on ... sounds expensive tho lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncearugge Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 So a little over 1 million baht per camera. Hmmm. Try calculating that again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansgruber Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 So a little over 1 million baht per camera. Hmmm. That price does also include 120 big screen monitors of course, one for each of the cameras (maybe), lots of cabling everywhere (unless they go wireless), and then of course you need a big new room to put them all in (so maybe that extension to the Police HQ is on the cards), and additional staff to watch them all, then you'll need some training for the staff, and nice comfortable chairs for them to sit on ... the list goes on ... sounds expensive tho lol I have top of the line Sanyo HD cameras which cost 22k baht each which are on par with airport security cameras. Not sure that much cabling is involved as they will probably be ip cameras for that sort of money. No need to explain where the money really goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncearugge Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 So a little over 1 million baht per camera. Hmmm. That price does also include 120 big screen monitors of course, one for each of the cameras (maybe), lots of cabling everywhere (unless they go wireless), and then of course you need a big new room to put them all in (so maybe that extension to the Police HQ is on the cards), and additional staff to watch them all, then you'll need some training for the staff, and nice comfortable chairs for them to sit on ... the list goes on ... sounds expensive tho lol I have top of the line Sanyo HD cameras which cost 22k baht each which are on par with airport security cameras. Not sure that much cabling is involved as they will probably be ip cameras for that sort of money.No need to explain where the money really goes. Unwarranted cynicism ........... Public CCTV surveillance systems are expensive to install , staff and maintain! Unlike some I can evidence my claim. http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/community/community-news/town-centre-cctv-axe-is-madness-1-5619538 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansgruber Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 So a little over 1 million baht per camera. Hmmm. That price does also include 120 big screen monitors of course, one for each of the cameras (maybe), lots of cabling everywhere (unless they go wireless), and then of course you need a big new room to put them all in (so maybe that extension to the Police HQ is on the cards), and additional staff to watch them all, then you'll need some training for the staff, and nice comfortable chairs for them to sit on ... the list goes on ... sounds expensive tho lol I have top of the line Sanyo HD cameras which cost 22k baht each which are on par with airport security cameras. Not sure that much cabling is involved as they will probably be ip cameras for that sort of money.No need to explain where the money really goes. Unwarranted cynicism ........... Public CCTV surveillance systems are expensive to install , staff and maintain! Unlike some I can evidence my claim. http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/community/community-news/town-centre-cctv-axe-is-madness-1-5619538 Maintain. Lol good one. Almost had me. Half won't work within a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 So a little over 1 million baht per camera. Hmmm. That price does also include 120 big screen monitors of course, one for each of the cameras (maybe), lots of cabling everywhere (unless they go wireless), and then of course you need a big new room to put them all in (so maybe that extension to the Police HQ is on the cards), and additional staff to watch them all, then you'll need some training for the staff, and nice comfortable chairs for them to sit on ... the list goes on ... sounds expensive tho lol I have top of the line Sanyo HD cameras which cost 22k baht each which are on par with airport security cameras. Not sure that much cabling is involved as they will probably be ip cameras for that sort of money.No need to explain where the money really goes. Unwarranted cynicism ........... Public CCTV surveillance systems are expensive to install , staff and maintain! Unlike some I can evidence my claim. http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/community/community-news/town-centre-cctv-axe-is-madness-1-5619538 So, it cost Blackpool 1,500,000 GBP (81,711,603.45 THB), whilst Phuket's is costing 117,000,000.00 THB (2,146,879.80 GBP) ... why is Phuket's so much more expensive then considering labor, material, equipment etc costs are much cheaper here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schlog Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Unwarranted cynicism ........... Public CCTV surveillance systems are expensive to install , staff and maintain! Unlike some I can evidence my claim. http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/community/community-news/town-centre-cctv-axe-is-madness-1-5619538 Maintain. Lol good one. Almost had me.Half won't work within a few months. And the other half they don't install. Follow the flow of the speed cams.............555 Edited November 12, 2015 by schlog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 It's a well documented fact that a large % is siphoned off for back handers at every stage of the purchase, installation, and maintenance of any gov project. My wife commented on a Thai report about these percentages, I cannot quite remember the numbers in that Thai report, but we are talking more than 50% of the total budget price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncearugge Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 It's a well documented fact that a large % is siphoned off for back handers at every stage of the purchase, installation, and maintenance of any gov project. My wife commented on a Thai report about these percentages, I cannot quite remember the numbers in that Thai report, but we are talking more than 50% of the total budget price. "Well" documented fact ? Links to the "Well documented evidence" please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shot Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Remember a few years ago they set up a similar scheme, and that the public would have internet access to all of the cameras? It all sounded great until "they" realized "they" would have an additional ??? number of eyes watching and recording all of the BS "they" might want to cover up. The internet thing never happened, and as mentioned above, many of those cameras don't work now and they didn't work any time something fishy was going on either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 You mean just like the wonderfull system they have in BKK that was so helpful with the Erawan bombing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inzman Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I bet the local Benz dealer is salivating at this news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockatoowho Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Quote: "I want the mafia eradicated in six months" Unquote: Yeah, right sunshine, you are just full of bad manners piss and wind. Edited November 14, 2015 by cockatoowho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhufton Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 So a little over 1 million baht per camera. Hmmm. That price does also include 120 big screen monitors of course, one for each of the cameras (maybe), lots of cabling everywhere (unless they go wireless), and then of course you need a big new room to put them all in (so maybe that extension to the Police HQ is on the cards), and additional staff to watch them all, then you'll need some training for the staff, and nice comfortable chairs for them to sit on ... the list goes on ... sounds expensive tho lol I have top of the line Sanyo HD cameras which cost 22k baht each which are on par with airport security cameras. Not sure that much cabling is involved as they will probably be ip cameras for that sort of money.No need to explain where the money really goes. Actually the cameras will only represent around 10-15% of the cost. The largest cost is infrastructure, camera poles, lighting, power, cabling, trenching, etc. Then there is network to get video to central control, switches, routers, wireless links, etc. Then there is recording & storage of video, user access, display systems, evidence export and video management software, all which require servers, equipment racks, client workstations, video walls, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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