Tapster Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 A guy who used to rent the house we live in left a Honda scooter here, saying he'd collect it later. It's ten months later and we haven't seen or heard from him in that time. Through a friend we have been able to contact him indirectly and he says we can keep the bike. This is all very well but we don't have a key or the green book. I don't want to ride the bike, I want to get rid of it, but what can I do with a bike with no key and no green book? Suggestions, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fang37 Posted November 16, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2015 Sell it as parts. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiniyow Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Can hire a Locksmith to cut Keys then try to sell it is Isan..Many Bikes in the North East don't have paperwork or insurance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bartender100 Posted November 16, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2015 Have you opened the seat? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recom273 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 If you find the right key cutting stall, they can make you a key - I don't know how, they start with a blank and just keep on going back to the lock and trying it, chipping away .. Ask about. After that, someone out in the village will take it, they run them out my way on the palm oil or rubber tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapster Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 @bartender100 No, I need the key for that. Why, what might I find? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I don't want to ride the bike, I want to get rid of it, but what can I do with a bike with no key and no green book? As you dont want to ride it or sell it just go to motorcycle shop and give it to them to deal with for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Where are you I will come collect and get rid of it for you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapster Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 @scubascuba3 I'd prefer some money for it if possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrens54 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) Take it to a CHOP SHOP, they'll use it for PARTS and you might make some money Might also be a good idea to get some written form of Ownership Transfer from the guy who left it.... just in case !! Edited November 16, 2015 by Torrens54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartender100 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 @bartender100 No, I need the key for that. Why, what might I find? Well you might find the green book? but without a signed of copy of the previous owners ID, you can't change the name in it anyway probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Honda Scooter. Scoopy? Forza? Pic? How much do you want for selling not your bike? 250baht? Try TV ad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williet98248 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 @bartender100 No, I need the key for that. Why, what might I find? Well you might find the green book? but without a signed of copy of the previous owners ID, you can't change the name in it anyway probably If you have the Green Book you own it. Can pay the taxes and insure it no matter the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKnave Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Ride it on Sundays only... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluebluewater Posted November 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Without the green book it might be more difficult to get a farang to buy it from you but that's about it. Thai's buy and sell them like that all the time. You can still get the compulsory insurance on them, pay the tax, etc. I've owned and ran one just like that for many years. Get a key made, sort out the running condition, check the classifieds as to what might be a fair price (and mark it down accordingly for lack of paperwork) and sell it. Cheers! Edited November 17, 2015 by bluebluewater 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Not sure, but think ya need at least a copy of gb to insure n road tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapster Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 Many thanks to all contributors, even taninthai who offered to take the bike off my hands, for nothing! I'll choose my words more carefully next time. There are some good ideas. @bluebluewater This is what I was hoping to hear. So there is a market for an appropriately-priced bike with no green book. I'll look into that, thanks. My main thrust will be to get in touch with the owner and see if I can't get the key and green book. It's a long shot as he seems to have disappeared off the scene, but worth a try as I can do a lot more with the key and green book. Thanks again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mankondang Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) So cut to the bottom line. You want something (money) for nothing (motorcycle). If you were a Thai you'd get truckloads of s**t on here Edited November 17, 2015 by mankondang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 ....of course get the seat open first.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 @bartender100 No, I need the key for that. Why, what might I find? Well you might find the green book? but without a signed of copy of the previous owners ID, you can't change the name in it anyway probably My friend bought a bike off a bar girl about five years ago, she dissapeared and can't be found so the bike just gets used as normal , never beeen stopped yet although my friend does not use it the family do. Cant be regisrered without name change ID signed paper work apparently. Sell the bike to locals and forget it or to parts place as advised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartender100 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) @bartender100 No, I need the key for that. Why, what might I find? Well you might find the green book? but without a signed of copy of the previous owners ID, you can't change the name in it anyway probably If you have the Green Book you own it. Can pay the taxes and insure it no matter the name. Wrong williet98248, i have brought several 2nd hand bikes, to do it legally you must go to The Land Transport Office or an official agent and complete the paper work to transfer ownership which includes taking a copy of the engine/chaise number , and agreement from former owner, there is no other legal way Edited November 17, 2015 by bartender100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Liquorice Posted November 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2015 @bartender100 No, I need the key for that. Why, what might I find? A lot of people keep copies of the log book and ID under the seat. First get a key cut so you can at least look. I would also go to the Police and get a report. Tell them the farang has left Thailand, left you the bike, but no ID or logbook. With a Police report the DLT should issue a new book, in your name. You can then sell it legally and get the best price. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smotherb Posted November 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2015 Not sure, but think ya need at least a copy of gb to insure n road tax. Scooters run all over the South with no papers, tax or insurance. Sell it to a Thai, they'll give you a few thousand 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post misterphil Posted November 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2015 Smash the ignition barrel with a screwdriver. Ride it to a GoGo bar. Get drunk and have a threesome with 3 lovely stunners. Tell them you forgot to bring your wallet and they can keep your (friends) bike until you return. Dont return. Job done. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williet98248 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I didn't say anything about 'legally'. Or about changing the name. Or actually owning the MB. If you present a valid green book and the bike doesn't show up as stolen on the computer anyone can pay the tax and insurance. In eleven years of paying tax and insurance on my MB I have never been asked to prove who I am. Give them the GB, pay the money and pick up the new paperwork a few days later. The only time I have ever been at the LTO is to make a legal transfer. After that I have always used a local agent for the yearly tax and insurance. But, you are right; if this guy wants to actually legally own the bike he will have to jump through the hoops. @bartender100No, I need the key for that.Why, what might I find? Well you might find the green book? but without a signed of copy of the previous owners ID, you can't change the name in it anyway probably If you have the Green Book you own it. Can pay the taxes and insure it no matter the name. Wrong williet98248, i have brought several 2nd hand bikes, to do it legally you must go to The Land Transport Office or an official agent and complete the paper work to transfer ownership which includes taking a copy of the engine/chaise number , and agreement from former owner, there is no other legal way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 @bartender100 No, I need the key for that. Why, what might I find? A lot of people keep copies of the log book and ID under the seat. First get a key cut so you can at least look. I would also go to the Police and get a report. Tell them the farang has left Thailand, left you the bike, but no ID or logbook. With a Police report the DLT should issue a new book, in your name. You can then sell it legally and get the best price. Never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Smash the ignition barrel with a screwdriver. Ride it to a GoGo bar. Get drunk and have a threesome with 3 lovely stunners. Tell them you forgot to bring your wallet and they can keep your (friends) bike until you return. Dont return. Job done. That would be a foursome then 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACam Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Smash the ignition barrel with a screwdriver. Ride it to a GoGo bar. Get drunk and have a threesome with 3 lovely stunners. Tell them you forgot to bring your wallet and they can keep your (friends) bike until you return. Dont return. Job done. What a classic.........cant stop laughing...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnybay Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 So how did you get on OP? another unfinished story, was it below the seat? did you sell it, get police report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow64 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) He paid the police when they pulled him over. Then took the lady boy home that was riding 2 up with him. This story has a happy ending. Edited November 30, 2015 by wow64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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