oneday Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 The only thing that will move this country forward is for you to step down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I am still trying to figure out the time he mentions about when the people had peace and tranquility? If you ask Thai people, not the elites, they will tell you it was when Thaksin ran things. If you are talking only about the people in the North them perhaps you are correct. But when Thak was here the south was not happy as well as bangkokonians. Hence! My initial comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 What is the old saying about making people happy? Ohh! You can make some of the people happy some of the time but you can never make all of the people happy all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Dear Prime Minister, It was the traditional peaceful nature of Thai culture that, in part, attracted me to retire in Thailand. I had considered other countries but have found a home here. I can understand your frustration with the position you have chosen to place yourself. Democracy is a messy business and constantly changes. In my humble opinion, Thailand is not alone in the stress within its society. If there is to be peace there must be basic economic and legal fairness and that is lacking. Again, Thailand is not alone in this issue in today's world but if Thais want political peace, this is what must be changed. Those with power must give more power to those who are economically disadvantaged. Everything you wrote was great until the last sentence. May I intervine and suggest, 'Those elected democratically by the people must use that power to improve the lives of the poor.' Of course corruption is still an ongoing problem so to add 'in a transparent way.' Then there is the human rights issues at the moment. So to add further 'and the rights of workers and working conditions must be regulated and adhere to international standards'. Okay, that should do it. Now thats what I want. Imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldiablo Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 "The Thai people are a nation that loves peacefulness and tranquillity," That's very apparent by the 19 coups that have occured in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrizzla Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 "Anything can be achieved if we cooperate. Don't contest each other and avoid resorting to conflict, then everything will work out," he said."The same thing goes with reform. If people are still arguing and think that their opinions are the best and must be the way, then we will not be able to do anything." Prayut said "nothing will move forward" if conflicts remain, which would lead to a lack of confidence among investors and tarnish the country's ability to compete. So why didn't you arrest the mad monk and the protesting nationalists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 What is the old saying about making people happy? Ohh! You can make some of the people happy some of the time but you can never make all of the people happy all of the time. That's why you have elections, so that the majority can be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 What's so sad about this is that the guy probably can not see the irony and that his way or the attitude adjustment way is NOT the way forward. There must be dissension and conflict for various opinions to be aired. Does he really believe that he is infallible? Yes that is the answer he does not understand the irony in his statements. Also the Abbott and Costello humor he projects. It has taken me 4 years to get my g/f to catch the one line zingers (I am famous for clap clap) and burst out laughing. She is now looking for a humor teaching job but sadly none seem available here. She is finally reaching her true potential which sadly is lacking here. At least she has a fighting chance after I snuff it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 "Anything can be achieved if we cooperate. Don't contest each other and avoid resorting to conflict, then everything will work out," he said."The same thing goes with reform. If people are still arguing and think that their opinions are the best and must be the way, then we will not be able to do anything." Prayut said "nothing will move forward" if conflicts remain, which would lead to a lack of confidence among investors and tarnish the country's ability to compete. So why didn't you arrest the mad monk and the protesting nationalists? You never keep pit bulls on a leash. They are attack dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 By "cooperate", of course he means "OBEY!" That is the same in every country.....You must obey Obama, Merkel, Putin etc But Obama,Merkel and even Putin are legitimate leaders of fairly and democratically elected governments.The same cannot be said of tinpot dictatorships.Some may cite China but that country's government makes a trade off between freedom and rapid economic progress for the people.So in The US, Germany, Russia and China it is reasonable to obey all lawful direction. In countries where governments seized power illegally and presided over corruption, incompetence and economic stagnation it is quite reasonable to resist and for those with courage to strike back hard. China? some trade off between freedom and economic progress. From what I have seen on TV if you live in Beijing you will be lucky if you breath long enough to enjoy your "freedom" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegee Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 One of his best speeches, relatively speaking. Hard to disagree with a lot of it. A bit like me having the nerve to tell the rest of you to post more tactfully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) I saw the talk last night. It was the usual awkward and disjointed presentation. The PM is not a natural speaker. My wife said, "He looks old." To me, he looked tired. His calls for cooperation were delivered in a dead-pan way; no intensity. He talked mainly about transportation issues. Mostly he just described how the government is implementing a few more light rail lines in Bangkok, and how parking garages might help alleviate traffic congestion. In the middle of his parking garage subject, he looked lost. He also spent a few minutes explaining why new buses might need to be imported, but over time, might have more local manufacturing content. As transportation was the "headline" topic, it was lacking in scope or vision, and focused on odd details. (I attribute these odd details to his reactionary style of governing, in which he attempts to address the issues of the week. This, of course, is a leadership no-no, as it allows his critics to set the agenda.) All told, I would say he is either "mailing it in", or his support team is incompetent, or both. Edited December 19, 2015 by phoenixdoglover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callaway Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Tell that to farangs that are getting bashed or treated like pieces of dog <deleted> everyday by locals. Maybe, the tourists, they do not understand that all that is part of peace and tranquility of Thailand. To be ripped off and scammed at every opportunity. If you want peace and tranquility then get the country back to a lawful one. As long as it stays the wild west then it is never achievable. Give the people a police force they can respect. Basically start all over again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Fine words of course but cooperation is a two-way street unless the person directing traffic wants a one way flow only. It is indeed. And neither of the two main factions will give up on their aspirations for total control. It's their way, all for themselves or nothing. Neither is anymore interested in co-operation than they are in democracy, justice for all and a fair and free society. A Junta or a Kleptocracy - what a charming choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Tell that to farangs that are getting bashed or treated like pieces of dog <deleted> everyday by locals. Maybe, the tourists, they do not understand that all that is part of peace and tranquility of Thailand. To be ripped off and scammed at every opportunity. If you want peace and tranquility then get the country back to a lawful one. As long as it stays the wild west then it is never achievable. Give the people a police force they can respect. Basically start all over again.. What are you talking about? Back to a lawful one - do you think that was the case under the previous regime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I saw the talk last night. It was the usual awkward and disjointed presentation. The PM is not a natural speaker. My wife said, "He looks old." To me, he looked tired. His calls for cooperation were delivered in a dead-pan way; no intensity. He talked mainly about transportation issues. Mostly he just described how the government is implementing a few more light rail lines in Bangkok, and how parking garages might help alleviate traffic congestion. In the middle of his parking garage subject, he looked lost. He also spent a few minutes explaining why new buses might need to be imported, but over time, might have more local manufacturing content. As transportation was the "headline" topic, it was lacking in scope or vision, and focused on odd details. (I attribute these odd details to his reactionary style of governing, in which he attempts to address the issues of the week. This, of course, is a leadership no-no, as it allows his critics to set the agenda.) All told, I would say he is either "mailing it in", or his support team is incompetent, or both. He's finding life at the top ain't so easy. Whether your elected, run by proxy, or come to power through a coup, running things ain't easy. It is not like the Army where he could order everyone, and never will be. More like herding cats. He certainly needs a much better PR team, professional lobbyists and some top advisers. If he wants to be a PM he's got to behave like the politicians not like the former top general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berybert Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Proof is in the pudding. Hold an election and all those who go against the chosen government shall end up in jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tukkytuktuk Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) A corruption free government, a safer place to live and visit, a bustling economy, a free and liberal society, better rights for workers, closer international relations, reconciliation amongst divided political parties, improved morale of Thai citizens and foreigners living here, etc. I could go on. Well done PM Prayuth. Keep up the good work. Edited December 19, 2015 by tukkytuktuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Dear Prime Minister, It was the traditional peaceful nature of Thai culture that, in part, attracted me to retire in Thailand. I had considered other countries but have found a home here. I can understand your frustration with the position you have chosen to place yourself. Democracy is a messy business and constantly changes. In my humble opinion, Thailand is not alone in the stress within its society. If there is to be peace there must be basic economic and legal fairness and that is lacking. Again, Thailand is not alone in this issue in today's world but if Thais want political peace, this is what must be changed. Those with power must give more power to those who are economically disadvantaged. Those with power will never give it up as long as their backsides point to the ground! That has been their way for 100's of years and it will not change anytime soon (unless they learn from Singapore). And the leadership will continue to tell the ordinary Thai citizen "we are doing this for your benefit and happiness" - oh, really? Unfortunately the disadvantaged buy it! Corruption goes unchecked and until that is changed no amount of differing Government styles (democratic or otherwise) will advance the rights and aspirations of the ordinary citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhream Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Pompous Chili (excuse my Thai). Very droll. But he doesn't give a pumpkin what anybody thinks. (excuse my Thai Too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhream Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) Dear Prime Minister, It was the traditional peaceful nature of Thai culture that, in part, attracted me to retire in Thailand. I had considered other countries but have found a home here. I can understand your frustration with the position you have chosen to place yourself. Democracy is a messy business and constantly changes. In my humble opinion, Thailand is not alone in the stress within its society. If there is to be peace there must be basic economic and legal fairness and that is lacking. Again, Thailand is not alone in this issue in today's world but if Thais want political peace, this is what must be changed. Those with power must give more power to those who are economically disadvantaged. Those with power will never give it up as long as their backsides point to the ground! That has been their way for 100's of years and it will not change anytime soon (unless they learn from Singapore).And the leadership will continue to tell the ordinary Thai citizen "we are doing this for your benefit and happiness" - oh, really? Unfortunately the disadvantaged buy it! Corruption goes unchecked and until that is changed no amount of differing Government styles (democratic or otherwise) will advance the rights and aspirations of the ordinary citizen. Singapore? Democracy? Try 'benign' autocracy, with most of the peoples fawning support. Support forthcoming because the money tree is in full Bloom. Much to laud about Sin, granted, but democracy is not 9new of them.They also counter sued the victims families of the Silkair disaster for daring to seek compensation after the FAA and black boxes proved the captain murdered the first officer with the crash axe in the flight deck, then flew the plane into the ground. Their judge found an electrical system was at fault. Majulah Singapore! Edited December 19, 2015 by dhream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 A corruption free government, a safer place to live and visit, a bustling economy, a free and liberal society, better rights for workers, closer international relations, reconciliation amongst divided political parties, improved morale of Thai citizens and foreigners living here, etc. I could go on. Well done PM Prayuth. Keep up the good work. What Thailand do you live in? Wait a minute...djjamie, is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominbkk Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 In other words listen to what I say and don't open your mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Following the junta-head's roadmap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Dear Prime Minister, It was the traditional peaceful nature of Thai culture that, in part, attracted me to retire in Thailand. I had considered other countries but have found a home here. I can understand your frustration with the position you have chosen to place yourself. Democracy is a messy business and constantly changes. In my humble opinion, Thailand is not alone in the stress within its society. If there is to be peace there must be basic economic and legal fairness and that is lacking. Again, Thailand is not alone in this issue in today's world but if Thais want political peace, this is what must be changed. Those with power must give more power to those who are economically disadvantaged. Those with power will never give it up as long as their backsides point to the ground! That has been their way for 100's of years and it will not change anytime soon (unless they learn from Singapore). And the leadership will continue to tell the ordinary Thai citizen "we are doing this for your benefit and happiness" - oh, really? Unfortunately the disadvantaged buy it! Corruption goes unchecked and until that is changed no amount of differing Government styles (democratic or otherwise) will advance the rights and aspirations of the ordinary citizen. Singapore is an interesting case study in Asian authoritarianism. A single party state masquerading as a democracy. Singapore's success was largely due to the single character of Lee Kwan Yueh. A strongman, who against the odds wasn't actually out to feather his own nest but truly believed in his role to develop Singapore. The closest Thailand has ever got to a LKY was Prem. Unfortunately he was only a shadow of LKY and couldn't find it within himself to actually see outside of the boundaries of the status quo, and chose to work within those boundaries, much to the detriment of Thailand. Maybe, had he found that ability to see beyond the confines of his class and clique, this country may well have been able to emulate the Singapore of Lee Kwan Yueh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plutojames88 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) So NASA space agency explain to screen watches via an old programming of Carl Sagan on your IPad jetting into Thailand the escape velocity of the voyager was achieved from the Jupiter asteroid belt by gravitational sling shot physics ( see maths equation) Meanwhile in Thailand as cows settle into rest and millions of Thais hear the general report via their screens that Farangs don't understand........... Edited December 20, 2015 by Plutojames88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callaway Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Tell that to farangs that are getting bashed or treated like pieces of dog <deleted> everyday by locals. Maybe, the tourists, they do not understand that all that is part of peace and tranquility of Thailand. To be ripped off and scammed at every opportunity. If you want peace and tranquility then get the country back to a lawful one. As long as it stays the wild west then it is never achievable. Give the people a police force they can respect. Basically start all over again.. What are you talking about? Back to a lawful one - do you think that was the case under the previous regime? I was not talking about any past regime. I was suggesting it gets back to when Thailand was lawful. However many years ago that was. I have seen it get progressively worse day by day in the last 5 years I have been here. I feel it starts by the example of those at the top. Also having a proper paid and not corrupt police force will also make the country recover. Nowadays no one has repect for the law or enforcers of it. Being judges, police or politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) I am still trying to figure out the time he mentions about when the people had peace and tranquility? If you ask Thai people, not the elites, they will tell you it was when Thaksin ran things. It was well before Taksins time. Taksins time was also full of conflict too, if you were around at that time and remember? I remember it well. People were rather upset about his dictator style. Edited December 20, 2015 by MaiChai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest5829 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Dear Prime Minister, It was the traditional peaceful nature of Thai culture that, in part, attracted me to retire in Thailand. I had considered other countries but have found a home here. I can understand your frustration with the position you have chosen to place yourself. Democracy is a messy business and constantly changes. In my humble opinion, Thailand is not alone in the stress within its society. If there is to be peace there must be basic economic and legal fairness and that is lacking. Again, Thailand is not alone in this issue in today's world but if Thais want political peace, this is what must be changed. Those with power must give more power to those who are economically disadvantaged. Those with power will never give it up as long as their backsides point to the ground! That has been their way for 100's of years and it will not change anytime soon (unless they learn from Singapore).And the leadership will continue to tell the ordinary Thai citizen "we are doing this for your benefit and happiness" - oh, really? Unfortunately the disadvantaged buy it! Corruption goes unchecked and until that is changed no amount of differing Government styles (democratic or otherwise) will advance the rights and aspirations of the ordinary citizen. Sorry, as an American, I am inclined to remember revolutions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springheeled jack Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I am in total agreement with prayuth the country must move forward no more retrograde steps this country has to compete and must have the ability to compete no more bickering everyone has to pull together . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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