evenstevens Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, NancyL said: Yeah, it would have been fun to witness the melee among the Chinese students outside Immigration. Doesn't get that exciting in the retirement extension queue. Find your candid comments of the alledgely Chinese students melee outside the Immgr Dept rather disturbing I have been innocently involved in such melees, (not at the Immgr Dept) and assure you it is indeed no fun and very possibly you could be a ambulance stretcher case to the nearest hospital, fun and exciting!!! not in my view Edited October 25, 2017 by evenstevens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusanus Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 On 10/1/2017 at 12:56 PM, SammyJ said: Can anyone tell me if Chiang Mai Immigration requires, as I have heard some immigration offices require, the MoFA stamp on the income affidavit form from one's embassy in applying for a retirement via? I have heard this has been required in Pattaya and Hua Hin , and if required the MoFA office in Bkk must be use? Or is there somewhere in Chiang Mai to obtain this stamp? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyL Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 2 hours ago, evenstevens said: Find your candid comments of the alledgely Chinese students melee outside the Immgr Dept rather disturbing I have been innocently involved in such melees, (not at the Immgr Dept) and assure you it is indeed no fun and very possibly you could be a ambulance stretcher case to the nearest hospital, fun and exciting!!! not in my view Oh for goodness sake, lighten up E/S. The incident was reported by ThaiPauly a few days ago in post no. 1566. If you actually spent time waiting in the queues at Imm. you'd know that the student visa queue isn't close to the retirement visa or start of the 90 day queue and besides, the Chinese students were fighting over the stools in front of the office that processes students visas, not the stools in the queues that us old folks use. I've heard from people who run language schools how difficult it is for their students to "get into" Immigration. That their students have to turn up very early to get a queue ticket and then are put through the ringer by Immigration once they're seen. We old folks aren't the only ones subject to the bad conditions there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyL Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 No need for a MofFA stamp on income letters in Chiang Mai. At least not yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 8 hours ago, NancyL said: Oh for goodness sake, lighten up E/S. The incident was reported by ThaiPauly a few days ago in post no. 1566. If you actually spent time waiting in the queues at Imm. you'd know that the student visa queue isn't close to the retirement visa or start of the 90 day queue and besides, the Chinese students were fighting over the stools in front of the office that processes students visas, not the stools in the queues that us old folks use. I've heard from people who run language schools how difficult it is for their students to "get into" Immigration. That their students have to turn up very early to get a queue ticket and then are put through the ringer by Immigration once they're seen. We old folks aren't the only ones subject to the bad conditions there. many thks for your reply but you have appeared to miss my main point that any melee outside a Govt Dept in this case Prom Immgr Dept is a situation not to be taken lightly what ever the circumstances are , and in your case you are treating it as fun and exciting i beg to differ . as a old folk, i feel the services at Prom Immgr Dept have improved since the bad old days at the Zoo (airport)but you still never stop complaining for what ever reason it may be, and as most savvy C/mai expats know it gets you no where at all, a nice early evening to all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThaiPauly Posted October 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) I beg to differ E/S. I do not think that immigration services have improved since the airport office days. It may have for you and those others that use visa agents, but 10 years ago there were no visa agents and we all did them ourselves and it did not take long either. We will see what happens when we all return to airport immigration in the not to distant future Edited October 25, 2017 by ThaiPauly 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 A post has been removed, can we talk about the topic please and not other posters, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 3 hours ago, ThaiPauly said: but 10 years ago there were no visa agents and we all did them ourselves and it did not take long either. Totally untrue! I have been using "Agents" since 2000. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I beg to differ E/S. I do not think that immigration services have improved since the airport office days. It may have for you and those others that use visa agents, but 10 years ago there were no visa agents and we all did them ourselves and it did not take long either. We will see what happens when we all return to airport immigration in the not to distant futureAP office was fine a long time ago, then things got stickyer for a while but improved some time after the move to Pramanada. Are they now better than AP? No if you go way back when volumes were low. Yes if you take the you look at the period just before Pramanada.Sent from my iPod touch using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiPauly Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 4 hours ago, scottiejohn said: Totally untrue! I have been using "Agents" since 2000. Maybe I am wrong here, but I don't recall the sheer numbers of people using agents being significant when I arrived here in 2004, but why did you need to pay an agent in the year 2000 when everything at Immigration was easy and straight forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 8 hours ago, ThaiPauly said: I beg to differ E/S. I do not think that immigration services have improved since the airport office days. It may have for you and those others that use visa agents, but 10 years ago there were no visa agents and we all did them ourselves and it did not take long either. We will see what happens when we all return to airport immigration in the not to distant future as for the early AM bird line sitters such as yourself conditions at Promenada Immgr Dept is leaps and bounds ahead of the Zoo days in its heyday where lining up in the car park and scrums to be packed down waiting for the whistle to be blown to get in first was very common each day btw i have used different agents on and off since the early 2002 , your 2007 number is so wrong and not even close honestly cobber in my view Promenada Immgr Dept Officers are doing a fine job ,considering the circumstances involved , and services have improved since the final yrs at the Zoo but a further improvement can be acheived, and sincerely do hope the new zoocan provide this a nice arvo to all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiPauly Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 2 hours ago, evenstevens said: as for the early AM bird line sitters such as yourself conditions at Promenada Immgr Dept is leaps and bounds ahead of the Zoo days in its heyday where lining up in the car park and scrums to be packed down waiting for the whistle to be blown to get in first was very common each day btw i have used different agents on and off since the early 2002 , your 2007 number is so wrong and not even close honestly cobber in my view Promenada Immgr Dept Officers are doing a fine job ,considering the circumstances involved , and services have improved since the final yrs at the Zoo but a further improvement can be acheived, and sincerely do hope the new zoocan provide this a nice arvo to all Yeah well you stick to your thinking and I'll stick to mine, then we are both right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 2 hours ago, evenstevens said: as for the early AM bird line sitters such as yourself conditions at Promenada Immgr Dept is leaps and bounds ahead of the Zoo days in its heyday where lining up in the car park and scrums to be packed down waiting for the whistle to be blown to get in first was very common each day btw i have used different agents on and off since the early 2002 , your 2007 number is so wrong and not even close honestly cobber in my view Promenada Immgr Dept Officers are doing a fine job ,considering the circumstances involved , and services have improved since the final yrs at the Zoo but a further improvement can be acheived, and sincerely do hope the new zoocan provide this a nice arvo to all How long ago was CM immigration at the Zoo ? I do recall CM immigration being by the airport, but I have never heard of it being at the Zoo. When did it move ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 How long ago was CM immigration at the Zoo ? I do recall CM immigration being by the airport, but I have never heard of it being at the Zoo. When did it move ?[emoji2] Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 How long ago was CM immigration at the Zoo ? I do recall CM immigration being by the airport, but I have never heard of it being at the Zoo. When did it move ?There's probably more chimps there than at the zoo.Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, roo860 said: There's probably more chimps there than at the zoo. Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app If you are referring to the immigration officers, then, thats quite rude . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 If you are referring to the immigration officers, then, thats quite rude .[emoji106] Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Just now, roo860 said: How about you go and telling them that, next time you are down there ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 How about you go and telling them that, next time you are down there ? Will do!I'll give em your name. Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, roo860 said: Will do! I'll give em your name. ........so witty Expected reply *I know I am* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiPauly Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 35 minutes ago, sanemax said: How long ago was CM immigration at the Zoo ? I do recall CM immigration being by the airport, but I have never heard of it being at the Zoo. When did it move ? It was never at the zoo....E/S just likes to be dramatic, he calls the zoo what we call Airport Immigration, God knows why, it was never worse than Prom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 ........so witty Expected reply *I know I am*Well, if you actually thought the immigration was once at Chiang Mai Zoo, then you are dafter than I thought you were![emoji23] Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, ThaiPauly said: Maybe I am wrong here, but I don't recall the sheer numbers of people using agents being significant when I arrived here in 2004, but why did you need to pay an agent in the year 2000 when everything at Immigration was easy and straight forward? When extending, for example a retirement visa, at the airport location you could book an appointment online. It was very simple and no waiting.Appointments were kept on time.I always took the 1pm slot and was out in 45 minutes. There were agents jumping the 90 day queue, with a handfull of passports, but no way was the number of agents as many as there are today. Of course the online booking system suddenly became redundant as did the bar code in the passport system which saved reams of paperwork.There was never any logical reason given While foreigner population has probably more than doubled over the last few years the Immigration Dept lacks the organisation and incentive to provide more officers to cater for the growing population. Unless the new office, back at the old site with minimal parking, is manned by more officers nothing will change Why only CM has this problem we will never know but former colleagues of mine,now retired, that are spread over Phuket ,Jomtien , Pattaya,Hua Hin tell to me that Agents are rarely used by long term residents as there is simply no waiting time and when I mention the TM 30 rort, and subsequent fines, they simply have no idea what I am talking about Edited October 26, 2017 by Sparkles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 12 minutes ago, ThaiPauly said: It was never at the zoo....E/S just likes to be dramatic, he calls the zoo what we call Airport Immigration, God knows why, it was never worse than Prom E/S does have a habit of calling things by names other then the names they are known by. It can get confusing . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, roo860 said: Well, if you actually thought the immigration was once at Chiang Mai Zoo, then you are dafter than I thought you were! I guess my comment went straight over your head. I do think that its quite derogatory to refer to CM immigration as chimps and the office as a zoo . I do suspect that you on line abusive guys are the same ones who wai the officers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I guess my comment went straight over your head. I do think that its quite derogatory to refer to CM immigration as chimps and the office as a zoo . I do suspect that you on line abusive guys are the same ones who wai the officers Too little too late Max.[emoji2] you did think it was at the Zoo, bless! Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 2 hours ago, ThaiPauly said: Yeah well you stick to your thinking and I'll stick to mine, then we are both right. bang on cobber freedom of choice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, roo860 said: Too little too late Max. you did think it was at the Zoo, bless! I did ask a question, asking whether it was there are not Asking whether or not it was there, can hardly be construed as thinking that is was there I can see from your posts that you are rather juvenile , so rather then let this descend into childish bickering, I shall leave it at that . No doubt you will make some immature comment, trying to prolong the bickering 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 How long ago was CM immigration at the Zoo ? When did it move ?Sorry Maxie, both of your questions are based on your brain thinking it was there. Neither asks if it was. Both presume it was. Your denial just dug yourself in deeper, keep up the good work. Sent from my iPod touch using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I have been to the Airport Immigration office numerous time . The personel were always efficient and helpful , it wasnt their fault that their office was too small or that there were not enough officers , they used to complain as well . I have always found them to be most helpful . They didnt arrest me when I showed up on an overstay , which they could have . They didnt arrest my friend who had no permit to be there , which they should have They were all most helpful in trying to find a solution to the problems Got quite a lot of "off the record " advice I do resent people calling the place a "zoo" and the immigration officers "chimps" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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