F4UCorsair Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Beware of Fake Foreigners with poor grammar to boot! Beware GENUINE foreign English teachers whose grasp of the language is tenuous at best. There are plenty posting on TV. They're the ones who don't know the difference between 'there', they're' and 'their', 'compare to' instead of 'compare with', any myriad other gross misuses of the language. And about 94.24% of thai people can't even correctly pronounce words like english. Your point? I honestly don't know what you're trying to say about the 94.24%, etc., and that's not a put down, but my point is that if 'trained teachers' who have no idea of the basics, are passing on their 'knowledge', those being taught have ZERO hope of ever being able to communicate effectively in the English language, spoken or written. The standard displayed by self confessef English teachers on TV is appalingly low....at best. What hope does the recipient of that 'teaching' have?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Singaporeans teaching englishhahahahahahaha..now Ive heard it all.I know Singaporeans who definitely master English better than you and I am sure of that. Stop being too condescending. Exactly!! English is the first language of Singapore, although there are four official languages taught in schools. I've lived in Singapore, and knowing their quest for excellence, most would speak English better than most native English speakers, albeit with a peculiarly Singaporean accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Maybe he will teach them Singlish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soc Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I have just heard another. A young woman is going to take a course here enabling her at the end to teach English to small Thai children. She's from the UK, BUT she has such thick local accent, that I can hardly understand her. Will all the little Thais have a Cardiff accent? When l lived in the Philippines a little girl(2-3 yo)used to play with my kids. As she had no father she used to come to me for cuddles & liked to be carried & called me Daddy. This made my own, same age daughter jealous of course. Her English was non-existant, but l taught her to say "ee by gum" pronounced "ee bah goom". An old Yorkshire saying! That was 35 years ago. l wonder if she still remembers it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 maybe he also pretended to be a sing at the interview to get a bigger salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 a Thai pretending he's an infidel? that's as bad as a Luk Thep pretending they are a Barbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I have just heard another. A young woman is going to take a course here enabling her at the end to teach English to small Thai children. She's from the UK, BUT she has such thick local accent, that I can hardly understand her. Will all the little Thais have a Cardiff accent? When l lived in the Philippines a little girl(2-3 yo)used to play with my kids. As she had no father she used to come to me for cuddles & liked to be carried & called me Daddy. This made my own, same age daughter jealous of course. Her English was non-existant, but l taught her to say "ee by gum" pronounced "ee bah goom". An old Yorkshire saying! That was 35 years ago. l wonder if she still remembers it! 'ee by gum' yea that was smart just what she needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mca Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Beware of Fake Foreigners with poor grammar to boot!Why you say like that? Can, lah! Don't talk cock, lah! We teach those Kayu boys good, lah!All those lahs he must have been a scouser. They sbould have rumbled him. They would if he had a dodgy perm and started nicking the wheels off the headmaster's car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berybert Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) I wonder if it is easier to learn English if the teacher is not fluent in both languages he is using. Edited February 10, 2016 by berybert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer666 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Strange that the school didn't ask to see his Singaporean passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheard Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 This is the quote that got me; It is better to use a Thai teacher who has studied English directly than a European teacher who might carry the wrong accent, That quote is a CLASSIC for sure!! Extreme Thainess!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann55 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) wow, thais trying to pretend to not be thais so they can teach english. Still will not make them able to speak and understand english though, if they are learning english in Thailand them they are still geting it wrong. If they are serious about learning english they need to attend a uni overseas where english is the first language, I have seen and heard thai teachers that are supposedly english teachers, what a joke, they have no idea. All this does is dumb down the students even more, they need real english teachers that have real experience with english not these pretend ones but then what else can we expect here. I could comment about your English use... but that would just be cruel You nailed it, M Some of the posts on this thread are remarkably racist, bigotted and arrogant but hey, what else is new, TITVF .... The one that scorns Singaporean English (#11) is particularly unpleasant and reeks of post-Victorian attitude ... I have many Singaporean friends who speak English perfectly and with very little accent. On the other hand, when I hear some people (especially from UK and Australia) barking at the locals here with an incredibly heavy accent and without making the slightest effort to adjust because "hey, my language is the international language so how come these idiots don't make the effort to speak it properly?", I wonder how many of them teach English to Thai children ... and I know for a fact that some of them are teachers. Then I have to remind myself that the Anglo/Irish culture also produced a number of literary geniuses, non of whom, unfortunately, can be seen on the barstools of this kingdom. At least not any more. What George Orwell wrote about British expats in 1934 (Burmese Days) was a shocking indictment of the English colonial behaviour and attitude, and obviously, 82 years later, that attitude is alive and well, thank you very much. Edited February 10, 2016 by Yann55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keesters Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Seeing him from a distance, young children call out their Singaporean teacher’s name Hey you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex88 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I have just heard another. A young woman is going to take a course here enabling her at the end to teach English to small Thai children. She's from the UK, BUT she has such thick local accent, that I can hardly understand her. Will all the little Thais have a Cardiff accent? A Cardiff accent would be much more preferable to a whiny, drawly American accent - which is what many English speaking Asian girls seem to end up with.... Thais continually tell me that they prefer the American accent and that everybody wants to learn American English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) wow, thais trying to pretend to not be thais so they can teach english. Still will not make them able to speak and understand english though, if they are learning english in Thailand them they are still geting it wrong. If they are serious about learning english they need to attend a uni overseas where english is the first language, I have seen and heard thai teachers that are supposedly english teachers, what a joke, they have no idea. All this does is dumb down the students even more, they need real english teachers that have real experience with english not these pretend ones but then what else can we expect here. Strewth, you have some balls to criticize others , given your appalling use of the English language in your post.As, do you with, your incorrect placement of commas. Edited February 10, 2016 by PaullyW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 lame yeah pretty lame. Children are smart and if teachers play this Bonnie and Clyde Roll they only encourage kids to lie! (this type of) lying is endemic here. it's part of the culture. white lies. steamed lies. sticky lies. fried lies. Dam-n that's funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Accent is not a huge problem. People who speak a language fluently and who are accustomed to dealing with non-native speakers or speakers with different accents will generally in short time be able to understand the accent. Native Thai speakers of English generally have 2 major probelms: 1. speaking grammar such as word order, or, more commonly, leaving out words (articles, verb conjugations and time words, for example) Speaker: "I not go." Listener: " You will not go, or you did not go, or you cannot go or you should not go?" etc 2. speaking English in a very vague, Contextual manner mimicking how they would speak Thai Ever hear Thais talk? " Arai na? Arai na? Arai na? " They speak in vague, indirect ways leaving the listener to interpret, question and reach consensus. Compared to Thai which is highly contextual and very indirect, English is very precise and direct. Plenty of Thais can speak English with perfect grammar but still often fail to be understood. Thai is a language that developed not primarily to efficiently exchange information but to build consensus and to have many mechanisms in place for speaker and listener to save face/embarrassment. " Chai mai khrap? Chai mai khrap? Chai mai khrap? " Edited February 10, 2016 by PaullyW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remi080 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Just let the thai do what they do best. Copy the one who got it right, and do it best. Bunch of wannabee's. Ps: prove that work with telling lies Exually might work. So typical Thai. Lie your self up into the world hoping you get out of be a third world country without loosing face, wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats56 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 wow, thais trying to pretend to not be thais so they can teach english. Still will not make them able to speak and understand english though, if they are learning english in Thailand them they are still geting it wrong. If they are serious about learning english they need to attend a uni overseas where english is the first language, I have seen and heard thai teachers that are supposedly english teachers, what a joke, they have no idea. All this does is dumb down the students even more, they need real english teachers that have real experience with english not these pretend ones but then what else can we expect here. Strewth, you have some balls to criticize others , given your appalling use of the English language in your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats56 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 What is wrong with his English. Sounds ok to me. You are a picky English police..get a life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Seeing him from a distance, young children call out their Singaporean teacher’s name Hey you Well at least its not "hey farang"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I have just heard another. A young woman is going to take a course here enabling her at the end to teach English to small Thai children. She's from the UK, BUT she has such thick local accent, that I can hardly understand her. Will all the little Thais have a Cardiff accent? A Cardiff accent would be much more preferable to a whiny, drawly American accent - which is what many English speaking Asian girls seem to end up with.... Thais continually tell me that they prefer the American accent and that everybody wants to learn American English. Oh dear, so the boy who is currently doing 10 press ups (and one for the King), for calling it a "candy store" not a "sweetshop" was right after all! Oh dear! NB: I jest - before the chorus of condemnation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadychris Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Shadychris, on 09 Feb 2016 - 04:53, said: Gillyflower, on 09 Feb 2016 - 04:46, said:I have just heard another. A young woman is going to take a course here enabling her at the end to teach English to small Thai children. She's from the UK, BUT she has such thick local accent, that I can hardly understand her. Will all the little Thais have a Cardiff accent? A Cardiff accent would be much more preferable to a whiny, drawly American accent - which is what many English speaking Asian girls seem to end up with.... you know you keep talking like that your whiney american wife is going to leave you and then whose going to do your beer runs for you?? ya, i bet you never thought that one through . . . . eh? There was nothing to think through. She's not a whiny American, and nor does she even have a whiny American accent. I haven't lost the use of my legs yet - if I need beer I go and get it myself anyway. Unlike some (maybe yourself included?) I don't regard my wife as a servant to fetch and carry for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petchou Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 It's hilarious and pathetic to read people who are unilingual, have never learned any language and if they did, are unable to make one sentence criticizing people about their abilities in their second or third language. Typical TV ignorant crowd. Thanks god, there is more rational minority here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fookhaht Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Beware of Fake Foreigners with poor grammar to boot! Beware real foreigners with poor grammar to boot. I have a Dutch acquaintance who pulls in about 100,000B/month giving English lessons to small groups of Thai uni. students in his home.I cringe every time I meet him by chance in town because I can't understand the man. Those poor, unsuspecting students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokKen Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Basically trying to pretend they dont need foreigners to teach English... What a farce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickRobbo Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 is this serious? Only a Thai national could invent this in fantasea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Beware of Fake Foreigners with poor grammar to boot! Beware real foreigners with poor grammar to boot. I have a Dutch acquaintance who pulls in about 100,000B/month giving English lessons to small groups of Thai uni. students in his home.I cringe every time I meet him by chance in town because I can't understand the man. Those poor, unsuspecting students. Probably laying the occasional cutie to boot! The miracle of Thailand where all a person needs is a nice smile Edited February 10, 2016 by PaullyW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCruncher Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 He’s actually a Thai national who pretends he cannot understand every single word they say. I'm sure he doesn't need to "pretend" that he doesn't understand every word English his students say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreanoOzzie Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Singaporeans teaching englishhahahahahahaha..now Ive heard it all.I know Singaporeans who definitely master English better than you and I am sure of that. Stop being too condescending. Exactly!! English is the first language of Singapore, although there are four official languages taught in schools. I've lived in Singapore, and knowing their quest for excellence, most would speak English better than most native English speakers, albeit with a peculiarly Singaporean accent. Their accent sucks though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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