playyer Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Hi, A buddy got denied a tourist visa in Vientiane (2nd in a row single entry I think) and is at the border very stressed. He can come back into Thailand without problem, right? Will he get 2 weeks? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 It depends...what was the ground for the refusal of Visa ? What is his nationality ? How many exempt stamps did he have in his passport ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Maybe if he hasn't had many visa exempt entries already. He'll get 30 days if from a G7 country, 15 days for others. (G7 countries: Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, UK, USA.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyjim5 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Depending on his nationality he may be given a 15/30 day visa exempt entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Does he have other Thai visas in his passport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 This from your post "(2nd in a row single entry I think)" that is important info needed. Perhaps it was his 3rd or 4th. and he already had a warning stamp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playyer Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 Thanks, all he is Czech so that would mean 15 days. Not sure how many exempts stamps he has, Ill ask. His passport is almost full he says, so probably several Thai tourist visa stamps. If he flies back in there would be no problem? And then he gets one month. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playyer Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 He used to be on double entry tourist visas, but never any red stamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericnoodeeka Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 he will get 15 days if he is lucky, def not 30 days. did my visa in sakon today, completely different circumstances, but the guy told me, i can get 60 days extension on a 30 day tourist visa because im married here and have a daughter, but he did tell me if i go to laos, i get 15 days,and thats my first entry, never did multiple tourist ones. just hope that gives you an idea. He used to be on double entry tourist visas, but never any red stamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Thanks, all he is Czech so that would mean 15 days. Not sure how many exempts stamps he has, Ill ask. His passport is almost full he says, so probably several Thai tourist visa stamps. If he flies back in there would be no problem? And then he gets one month. Thanks He will only get 15 days overland or 30 days by air. There is less of a chance of problem if flying into the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Isnt it just a bit strange that if you have a few visa exempt stamps you may not be allowed in the country? Yes I know it is because people will go, come back and work illegally but surely that is why there should be checks on companies to take care of such things. If someone is coming into the country and being totally legit why shouldnt he be allowed in? He will be spending when he is here. Just seems that the companies can do as they want and it is the foreigners who have to suffer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyjim5 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Isnt it just a bit strange that if you have a few visa exempt stamps you may not be allowed in the country? Yes I know it is because people will go, come back and work illegally but surely that is why there should be checks on companies to take care of such things. If someone is coming into the country and being totally legit why shouldnt he be allowed in? He will be spending when he is here. Just seems that the companies can do as they want and it is the foreigners who have to suffer The abuse of visa exempt entries rose to epidemic proportions resulting in restrictions being placed on their use. How would you suggest that millions of companies, businesses, and small traders be checked for illegal workers?. Best to prevent (or at least reduce the numbers) of those entering. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) Isnt it just a bit strange that if you have a few visa exempt stamps you may not be allowed in the country? Yes I know it is because people will go, come back and work illegally but surely that is why there should be checks on companies to take care of such things. If someone is coming into the country and being totally legit why shouldnt he be allowed in? He will be spending when he is here. Just seems that the companies can do as they want and it is the foreigners who have to suffer I don't believe visa exempt entry has ever been meant to be used as a way to stay here long term whether working or not, and regardless of how much one spends. They increased the extension of stay available from 7 to 30 days so someone can stay two months on one entry. Why does the typical tourist need more than a couple of entries? Those wanting more than that are probably living here (some working) without what immigration would consider a proper visa or visa for the purpose of the visit. Edited February 24, 2016 by elviajero 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksam Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) I never understand the complaints about limit of visa exempt stamps. I'm AU how many visa exempt stamps can I have for Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam , etc. Answer ZERO. Suck it up obtain correct visa Edited February 24, 2016 by jacksam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playyer Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 OK. He got 15 days visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkv Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Can you provide a little more information about how they refused him? Like they did not take his application, did he have some bank statements or some tickets, did he try to argue the case etc? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 as i always say, do it right get the correct visa for the length of time you will/may need, before entering Thailand people abusing/ sailing close to the wind on any type of entry, be it visa exempt, ed visa, back to back tourist visa, just make it more difficult for the genuine stayer. there are long term ways of staying in Thailand for everyone that needs to be here legally, some are cheaper than others, but they are there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Would be helpful for a lot of us to get more information. Hope you can provide some playyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surin1969 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 OK. He got 15 days visa. its not a visa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayk Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) Isnt it just a bit strange that if you have a few visa exempt stamps you may not be allowed in the country? Yes I know it is because people will go, come back and work illegally but surely that is why there should be checks on companies to take care of such things. If someone is coming into the country and being totally legit why shouldnt he be allowed in? He will be spending when he is here. Just seems that the companies can do as they want and it is the foreigners who have to suffer The abuse of visa exempt entries rose to epidemic proportions resulting in restrictions being placed on their use. How would you suggest that millions of companies, businesses, and small traders be checked for illegal workers?. Best to prevent (or at least reduce the numbers) of those entering. Partially due to the 36000+ schools continuing to employ teachers without the correct visa and wp knowing perfectly well it is illegal. Edited February 24, 2016 by Rayk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Isnt it just a bit strange that if you have a few visa exempt stamps you may not be allowed in the country? Yes I know it is because people will go, come back and work illegally but surely that is why there should be checks on companies to take care of such things. If someone is coming into the country and being totally legit why shouldnt he be allowed in? He will be spending when he is here. Just seems that the companies can do as they want and it is the foreigners who have to suffer The abuse of visa exempt entries rose to epidemic proportions resulting in restrictions being placed on their use. How would you suggest that millions of companies, businesses, and small traders be checked for illegal workers?. Best to prevent (or at least reduce the numbers) of those entering. The same way that companies around the world do with checks on companies and maybe intermediate checks on individuals at their places of stay. Other countries seem to be able to control it so there is no reason why Thailand can't if they really want to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Isnt it just a bit strange that if you have a few visa exempt stamps you may not be allowed in the country? Yes I know it is because people will go, come back and work illegally but surely that is why there should be checks on companies to take care of such things. If someone is coming into the country and being totally legit why shouldnt he be allowed in? He will be spending when he is here. Just seems that the companies can do as they want and it is the foreigners who have to suffer The abuse of visa exempt entries rose to epidemic proportions resulting in restrictions being placed on their use. How would you suggest that millions of companies, businesses, and small traders be checked for illegal workers?. Best to prevent (or at least reduce the numbers) of those entering. The same way that companies around the world do with checks on companies and maybe intermediate checks on individuals at their places of stay. Other countries seem to be able to control it so there is no reason why Thailand can't if they really want to Actually it's not really controlled anywhere. In the USA, millions of illegal immigrants are working. Same in Europe. Maybe North Korea has control but that is about the only place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyjim5 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Isnt it just a bit strange that if you have a few visa exempt stamps you may not be allowed in the country? Yes I know it is because people will go, come back and work illegally but surely that is why there should be checks on companies to take care of such things. If someone is coming into the country and being totally legit why shouldnt he be allowed in? He will be spending when he is here. Just seems that the companies can do as they want and it is the foreigners who have to suffer The abuse of visa exempt entries rose to epidemic proportions resulting in restrictions being placed on their use. How would you suggest that millions of companies, businesses, and small traders be checked for illegal workers?. Best to prevent (or at least reduce the numbers) of those entering. The same way that companies around the world do with checks on companies and maybe intermediate checks on individuals at their places of stay. Other countries seem to be able to control it so there is no reason why Thailand can't if they really want to I think you will find "other" countries do not provide visa exempt entries ! Does Australia, New Zealand, UK , USA , Canada or any European country provide easy access ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkv Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I think you will find "other" countries do not provide visa exempt entries ! Does Australia, New Zealand, UK , USA , Canada or any European country provide easy access ? How about Malaysia (90 days), Singapore (90 days), Hong Kong (90 days) (180 days if you are British), Taiwan (90 days), Japan (90 days). Free. I'm from Eastern Europe but part of EU. Thailand. Visa on arrival 14 days @ 1,000 baht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyjim5 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I think you will find "other" countries do not provide visa exempt entries ! Does Australia, New Zealand, UK , USA , Canada or any European country provide easy access ? How about Malaysia (90 days), Singapore (90 days), Hong Kong (90 days) (180 days if you are British), Taiwan (90 days), Japan (90 days). Free. I'm from Eastern Europe but part of EU. Thailand. Visa on arrival 14 days @ 1,000 baht Is anyone allowed a Thai visa on arrival ? I would check the penalty's for overstay in Singapore ( Hint! Caning is an option, as is jail and a huge fine) What has coming from Eastern Europe got to do with overstaying in Thailand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkv Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) I think you will find "other" countries do not provide visa exempt entries ! Does Australia, New Zealand, UK , USA , Canada or any European country provide easy access ? How about Malaysia (90 days), Singapore (90 days), Hong Kong (90 days) (180 days if you are British), Taiwan (90 days), Japan (90 days). Free. I'm from Eastern Europe but part of EU. Thailand. Visa on arrival 14 days @ 1,000 baht Is anyone allowed a Thai visa on arrival ? I would check the penalty's for overstay in Singapore ( Hint! Caning is an option, as is jail and a huge fine) What has coming from Eastern Europe got to do with overstaying in Thailand ? I don't know, you tell me, you were the one that was saying "other" countries do not provide visa exempt entries, perhaps trying to make us appreciate the generosity of Thailand giving a 30 day exempt entry to some nationalities, and I was just recommending you have a look closer in the region at other countries visa exempt policy. As for overstaying, I totally not recommend it, as I have posted before I saw with my own eyes what IDC looks like in Bangkok visiting a friend (not for overstay but not having a WP) and it's not worth the risk. But on a second note, I find it a little bit disgusting how this "overstay thing" has been used to create a negative image in the media. By the way, the title of this thread is about someone being denied a visa in Vientiane just to let you know. Edited February 24, 2016 by lkv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I think you will find "other" countries do not provide visa exempt entries ! Does Australia, New Zealand, UK , USA , Canada or any European country provide easy access ? How about Malaysia (90 days), Singapore (90 days), Hong Kong (90 days) (180 days if you are British), Taiwan (90 days), Japan (90 days). Free. I'm from Eastern Europe but part of EU. Thailand. Visa on arrival 14 days @ 1,000 baht Their country their rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkv Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Their country their rules Ya that's fine, they can give 3 days visa exempt if they want, but I think if we are to make comparissons we should be looking closer in the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksSmirkingRevenge Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 i don't know why they would deny him. I've personally got back to back visas there, with previous visa and exempt stamps before. They won't deny you because of back to back or because of visas from other consulates. Maybe they thought something was up....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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