Trump and Clinton see each other as main obstacle to the White House

[iReason]

[Ulysses G.]

Obama would not admit that Trump was going to win, no matter how obvious it was. It's Politics. Of course he would deny it.

[mrwebb8825]

Donald is the ONLY one who has come out with a very viable plan to stomping out the ISIS that is safe for the innocents trying to flee AND for America. Building "safe zones" inside their own countries and then inilating everyone who's left. Any of those people who would NOT come to the safe zones MUST be members of terrorist groups that couldn't do anything bad if they were under protective custody.

Working with the UN and all our allies, those safe zones could be constructed in less than 1 year. Those who "claim" to be fleeing could get there MUCH easier than trying to get to America which doesn't want them or to Europe which definitely doesn't want them. As an added bonus, they would then be in charge of their own countries once the terrorists were rooted out. Military training could be conducted inside those safe zones so the indigenous people would be able to control and take care of themselves afterwards. Other training such as water conservation, agriculture, farming, etc. could be carried out in relative safety at the same time making the peace loving people who would be left a true benefit for the world.

Go Donald.

Edited March 15, 2016 by mrwebb8825

[boomerangutang]

BTW, I'm fully in favor of destroying ISIS. The difference between me and Trump/Cruz, is I would do it smart. Instead of carpet bombing and N-weapons, I would get small units of well-trained specialists working side by side with Kurds and other effective fighters. Fighting ISIS with carpet bombing and nukes is like trying to stomp out a fire ant infestation by stomping on their sand hive with combat boots.

Trump/Cruz would use BOTH airpower and special forces. According to most experts, THAT is the smart way to do it.

Cruz hinted at using N bombs, and Trump didn't deny whether he would authorize tens of thousands of US troops to the dunes.

[iReason]

ISIS, IS, ICYCLE. CYCLICAL. The current bogeyman.

And those nasty immigrants. Another deflective campaign to obscure the real problems in the U.S. via Fox Views.

The sheeple eat it up.

How about tackling something substantial?

Perhaps cutting loose the private banking system, (the Federal Reserve), that owns the U.S. for starters?

Naa, the "their coming to get us" fear factor is so much more effective with the naive...

Edited March 15, 2016 by iReason

[iReason]

Lunatic:

[chuckd]

Clinton's email server problem.

...and more of her email server problem

Clinton's Libya problem.

[iReason]

Edited March 15, 2016 by iReason

[iReason]

"Trump University was neither licensed as a school nor accredited as an institution of higher learning."

“We’re going to have professors and adjunct professors that are absolutely terrific. Terrific people. Terrific brains. Successful. The best."

"We are going to have the best of the best. And, honestly, if you don’t learn from them,... and these are all people that are handpicked by me – then, you’re just not gonna make it,” said Trump.

"In reality, lawyers for Cohen and Makaeff claim that the instructors and mentors were not professors or even real estate experts,

but rather “predominantly professional salespeople, hired for their ability to deliver a hard-sell sales presentation, and paid exclusively on commission based on the percent of sales they delivered.”

"There was also allegedly a “playbook” that scripted everything the instructors said or did, right down to what music to play and where to stand."

http://www.goodcall.com/news/the-comprehensive-trump-university-lawsuit-scandal-breakdown-05088

[Berkshire]

Donald is the ONLY one who has come out with a very viable plan to stomping out the ISIS that is safe for the innocents trying to flee AND for America. Building "safe zones" inside their own countries and then inilating everyone who's left. Any of those people who would NOT come to the safe zones MUST be members of terrorist groups that couldn't do anything bad if they were under protective custody.

Working with the UN and all our allies, those safe zones could be constructed in less than 1 year. Those who "claim" to be fleeing could get there MUCH easier than trying to get to America which doesn't want them or to Europe which definitely doesn't want them. As an added bonus, they would then be in charge of their own countries once the terrorists were rooted out. Military training could be conducted inside those safe zones so the indigenous people would be able to control and take care of themselves afterwards. Other training such as water conservation, agriculture, farming, etc. could be carried out in relative safety at the same time making the peace loving people who would be left a true benefit for the world.

Go Donald.

Get serious, this wasn't Trump's idea. It was Turkey that has been pushing the idea for over a year now and they're still trying to revive it...but without takers.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/16/turkey-safe-zone-syria-refugees-russian-airstrikes

[iReason]

"A crowd of onlookers cheered as the Donald, the Donald Jr and Trump Mortgage CEO E.J. Ridings entered. Small children were dressed like Donald Trump"

"As it turns out, it wasn’t a successful company and EJ Riding wasn’t all he was cracked up to be."

"And then Money Magazine looked into claims that Riding was “a top executive at one of Wall Street’s most prestigious investment banks” with fifteen years of experience in the financial industry."

"It turned out that his “Wall Street” experience consisted of working for a few months as a broker for Dean Witter back in 1998."

"But, you know, he had run a cleaning business and a vitamin company."

http://dealbreaker.com/2007/08/trump-fires-his-own-mortgage-company/

Pay attention to the patterns of the bloviator...

Edited March 15, 2016 by iReason

[Linzz]

Trump is more of a war monger than either of the Bush's. Every chance he gets he talks of throwing the full force of the US military against ISIS. He'd likely do the same against N.Korea and/or Iran or the S.China Sea. He's so easily offended and quick-to-anger, and he's intent on the world knowing what a big dick he has...... Trump will say he won't start wars (who wouldn't say that?) ....but he will. He won't let anyone call him a pussy, but instead will go in full tilt, and it won't cost billions, but instead cost trillions. The weapons makers will love him, and heck, Trump can say he's creating jobs .....at weapons and body bag factories. Plus Cheney will love it, because Cheney owns a lot of stock in companies which provide for the military. Plus, it will send oil prices shooting up, so it's a win-win from a Republican perspective.

So, you apparently think that to let ISIS carry on is the best approach, but I would guess that there's at least a few people who would disagree and gladly see ISIS eliminated using a major US assault. Then you decide that since he wants to take care of a heinous organization, he also wants to attack nations who aren't doing anything obviously heinous. Huh? It's gets stranger that you defend the Bushes (those very willing puppets) who carried out plans to cause the Middle East - US problems and clearly throw America into wars, enriching the wealth of them and their military-industrial complex cronies like the ever-lovable and cuddly Cheney. But somehow you decide that it's Trump who will do this terrible stuff that the Bushes have done? Not to be disrespectful, but I think your post is ridiculous. There's no substance to what you say.

You get this morning's prize for Reverse Logic. BTW, I'm fully in favor of destroying ISIS. The difference between me and Trump/Cruz, is I would do it smart. Instead of carpet bombing and N-weapons, I would get small units of well-trained specialists working side by side with Kurds and other effective fighters. Fighting ISIS with carpet bombing and nukes is like trying to stomp out a fire ant infestation by stomping on their sand hive with combat boots. Even if you kill all the ants on the surface, there are still ants (and the queen) underground, ....and other ants will move in to take their place.

With respect, nonsense excitement post . Trump is all rhetoric to get elected. He loves the play to get attention. He was anti the invasion of Iraq as were you and spoke out against Bush at the time, said Saadam was a stabilizing factor who killed terrorists.

So, you're saying to disregard the election/debate rhetoric from Trump, as it's not the real Trump? Actually, that fits with what Carson said when he endorsed Trump: "there are two Trumps." So now the American people, if saddled with Trump, have to guess which of the 2 Trumps they'll get each moment of his waking hours. Will it be the decent Trump, or the hothead, calling names, easily-offended, send-military-everywhere Trump?

Yes I do say that. Trump's rhetoric is largely for effect to capture the discontent and capitalize on the anger. If he gets into office you will find a different Trump still right wing but moderated by the job. Also if he was against Bush's war hopefully he would carry those selfsame sentiments into the Whitehouse. Trump is also tapping into anger voiced by veterans. If half the soldiers face difficulties returning home, in my view it should be an indictment on the government. After being prepared to lay their bodies and lives on the line for their country, those guys (and girls) should never want for anything ever again for the rest of their lives.

[Publicus]

Clinton's email server problem.

...and more of her email server problem

Clinton's Libya problem.

Hey give NS a ring so he can get out the broom cause Hillary tonight swept the board. Cleaned Bernie's clock.

HRC won FL, NC, OH, IL and MO has been tentatively called for her as of this post.

Youse guyz can click your Trump heels three times and say: President Hillary Clinton.

We apparently are going to have to disagree to disagree.

[Neurath]

One thing that's interesting is that Trump is the least ideological of all the candidates in both parties. There is no position or platform that he won't turn to support or turn to denigrate should it raise shits, giggles and adulation from the terraces. Another thing is that those who support him appeared only a couple of years ago as the most ideological of ideological warriors. Some of them write on this forum. The support for Trump shows that they weren't ideological so much as oppositional. What that shows is that here in the US we don't so much hate the political platform of our adversaries as we hate the people who advocate that platform. They and we could advocate anything at all but it would still be us and them. The bas@tards.

[boomerangutang]

If anyone has any doubt as to whether Trump is a Sphincter of Oddi, they need to watch this video.

[Neurath]

Donald is the ONLY one who has come out with a very viable plan to stomping out the ISIS that is safe for the innocents trying to flee AND for America. Building "safe zones" inside their own countries and then inilating everyone who's left. Any of those people who would NOT come to the safe zones MUST be members of terrorist groups that couldn't do anything bad if they were under protective custody.

Working with the UN and all our allies, those safe zones could be constructed in less than 1 year. Those who "claim" to be fleeing could get there MUCH easier than trying to get to America which doesn't want them or to Europe which definitely doesn't want them. As an added bonus, they would then be in charge of their own countries once the terrorists were rooted out. Military training could be conducted inside those safe zones so the indigenous people would be able to control and take care of themselves afterwards. Other training such as water conservation, agriculture, farming, etc. could be carried out in relative safety at the same time making the peace loving people who would be left a true benefit for the world.

Go Donald.

What a sensible suggestion. Laagers and annihilation - who would have thought they go together? Teaching the indigenous people some basic skills is a nice thought too.

[chuckd]

If anyone has any doubt as to whether Trump is a Sphincter of Oddi, they need to watch this video.

Yet another comedian used by the radical left wingers as their fount of knowledge.

Looks like he held his own against those four attacking women of The View.

You couldn't make this stuff up.

[iReason]

^^^

Coming from the guy who posts cartoons from the Neo-Con Patriot Post...

And apparently a supporter of some lech who eyes is own daughter with salacious intent.

[Chicog]

"Trump University was neither licensed as a school nor accredited as an institution of higher learning."

“We’re going to have professors and adjunct professors that are absolutely terrific. Terrific people. Terrific brains. Successful. The best."

"We are going to have the best of the best. And, honestly, if you don’t learn from them,... and these are all people that are handpicked by me – then, you’re just not gonna make it,” said Trump.

"In reality, lawyers for Cohen and Makaeff claim that the instructors and mentors were not professors or even real estate experts,

but rather “predominantly professional salespeople, hired for their ability to deliver a hard-sell sales presentation, and paid exclusively on commission based on the percent of sales they delivered.”

"There was also allegedly a “playbook” that scripted everything the instructors said or did, right down to what music to play and where to stand."

http://www.goodcall.com/news/the-comprehensive-trump-university-lawsuit-scandal-breakdown-05088

I can't believe people paid $35K for this nonsense.

And got their photo taken with Donald Trump.

When I said with Donald Trump, I mean a cardboard cut-out of Donald Trump!

Mugs!

[attrayant]

Clinton isn't Trump's main obstacle, money is. His net worth may be impressive but he lacks liquidity. How Would Donald Trump Fund a General Election Campaign?

Suppose Donald Trump is the Republican presidential nominee. It's by no means a sure thing, but just suppose. If Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, she is going to raise a billion dollars, probably half from large donors and half from small ones. Trump will need to match that. So far, he has run a cheapskate campaign, relying on making outrageous statements to get free air time. In the general election, that won't work because modern general elections aren't about convincing the 107 undecided voters left in the country, but about getting your own supporters to the polls. Barack Obama ran a brilliant (but very expensive) big data operation in 2008 and 2012 and Clinton will surely ask him for his database and try to do the same thing. Where will Trump get the money to match her? Jonathan Alter has some thoughts on the matter.

The first possibility is just write a check. Except he can't. Federal rules aren't the problem. The problem is that he doesn't have the cash. The amount of Trump's net worth is in dispute. He claims it is $10 billion. Forbes says it is $4 billion. Even if that was all in cash, spending a quarter of his net worth on a probably pointless campaign would be a big gamble. But Trump's net worth is not in cash. It is in buildings and contracts that license the use of his name for a diverse range of products. None of these can be converted to a billion dollars in cash in a few weeks. Unlike Michael Bloomberg, who could just call his stock broker and tell him to liquidate a billion dollars worth of stock, Trump can't pay for a general election campaign on his own. He is too poor.

More at the link.

[NovaBlue05]

Trump's main obstacle is the GOP establishment and the media. Hillary is an afterthought. Without the media carrying her, she would have already collapsed if left to her own abilities

[Publicus]

Clinton isn't Trump's main obstacle, money is. His net worth may be impressive but he lacks liquidity. How Would Donald Trump Fund a General Election Campaign?

Suppose Donald Trump is the Republican presidential nominee. It's by no means a sure thing, but just suppose. If Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, she is going to raise a billion dollars, probably half from large donors and half from small ones. Trump will need to match that. So far, he has run a cheapskate campaign, relying on making outrageous statements to get free air time. In the general election, that won't work because modern general elections aren't about convincing the 107 undecided voters left in the country, but about getting your own supporters to the polls. Barack Obama ran a brilliant (but very expensive) big data operation in 2008 and 2012 and Clinton will surely ask him for his database and try to do the same thing. Where will Trump get the money to match her? Jonathan Alter has some thoughts on the matter.

The first possibility is just write a check. Except he can't. Federal rules aren't the problem. The problem is that he doesn't have the cash. The amount of Trump's net worth is in dispute. He claims it is $10 billion. Forbes says it is $4 billion. Even if that was all in cash, spending a quarter of his net worth on a probably pointless campaign would be a big gamble. But Trump's net worth is not in cash. It is in buildings and contracts that license the use of his name for a diverse range of products. None of these can be converted to a billion dollars in cash in a few weeks. Unlike Michael Bloomberg, who could just call his stock broker and tell him to liquidate a billion dollars worth of stock, Trump can't pay for a general election campaign on his own. He is too poor.

More at the link.

Sort of like many moons ago when J.P. Morgan died and word got around his estate was valued at $80 million.

The reaction throughout Manhattan's moneyed Upper East Side was telling: "And we thought he was rich."

If Donald Trump is serious in his dementia to buy the United States as his own personal property to own and operate, he's going to have to show the color of his money. Even then it won't help him.

[iReason]

^^^

Feet of Clay, Pub.

[keemapoot]

Clinton isn't Trump's main obstacle, money is. His net worth may be impressive but he lacks liquidity. How Would Donald Trump Fund a General Election Campaign?

Suppose Donald Trump is the Republican presidential nominee. It's by no means a sure thing, but just suppose. If Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, she is going to raise a billion dollars, probably half from large donors and half from small ones. Trump will need to match that. So far, he has run a cheapskate campaign, relying on making outrageous statements to get free air time. In the general election, that won't work because modern general elections aren't about convincing the 107 undecided voters left in the country, but about getting your own supporters to the polls. Barack Obama ran a brilliant (but very expensive) big data operation in 2008 and 2012 and Clinton will surely ask him for his database and try to do the same thing. Where will Trump get the money to match her? Jonathan Alter has some thoughts on the matter.

The first possibility is just write a check. Except he can't. Federal rules aren't the problem. The problem is that he doesn't have the cash. The amount of Trump's net worth is in dispute. He claims it is $10 billion. Forbes says it is $4 billion. Even if that was all in cash, spending a quarter of his net worth on a probably pointless campaign would be a big gamble. But Trump's net worth is not in cash. It is in buildings and contracts that license the use of his name for a diverse range of products. None of these can be converted to a billion dollars in cash in a few weeks. Unlike Michael Bloomberg, who could just call his stock broker and tell him to liquidate a billion dollars worth of stock, Trump can't pay for a general election campaign on his own. He is too poor.

More at the link.

Sort of like many moons ago when J.P. Morgan died and word got around his estate was valued at $80 million.

The reaction throughout Manhattan's moneyed Upper East Side was telling: "And we thought he was rich."

If Donald Trump is serious in his dementia to buy the United States as his own personal property to own and operate, he's going to have to show the color of his money. Even then it won't help him.

What people may not understand is that for very wealthy self-made businessmen (Trump is largely that, though had big startup cash from his dad), their business empires are like personal playgrounds (think Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch). They don't really care about the money as much as the game it allows them to play.

Being able to have the US government as your personal playground, and the US treasury as your personal piggy bank is an incredibly alluring attraction to a guy like Trump, and to be honest, to any big roller, especially if somewhat cash strapped to play the size of the game he wants to play.