Is it too late to stop the Donald Trump machine?

[chuckd]

When Reps don't like the message, they attack the messenger.

When the messenger delivers fascism/nazism as it's message, it becomes a propagandist.

[Jingthing]

When Reps don't like the message, they attack the messenger.

When the messenger delivers fascism/nazism as it's message, it becomes a propagandist.

I have been following U.S. politics all my life. Sure republicans and right wingers have been called fascists before by the left. That is nothing new. But Trump IS something new. The Trump movement is being properly labelled a FASCIST movement by MANY more very credible people than I've ever seen in the American political context. Not only leftists but very MODERATE people as well. It's EVERYWHERE, and globally too. I say, pay attention, this is REAL this time. Don't ignore the threat. Real American patriots (not the fascists in the trump hats) will mobilize against this incredibly dangerous rise of a horrific DEMAGOGUE and while many or most will have to hold their noises, Hillary Clinton is the ONLY choice to stop him.

Edited May 19, 2016 by Jingthing

[55Jay]

When Reps don't like the message, they attack the messenger.

When the messenger delivers fascism/nazism as it's message, it becomes a propagandist.

I have been following U.S. politics all my life. Sure republicans and right wingers have been called fascists before by the left. That is nothing new. But Trump IS something new. The Trump movement is being properly labelled a FASCIST movement by MANY more very credible people than I've ever seen in the American political context. Not only leftists but very MODERATE people as well. It's EVERYWHERE, and globally too. I say, pay attention, this is REAL this time. Don't ignore the threat. Real American patriots (not the fascists in the trump hats) will mobilize against this incredibly dangerous rise of a horrific DEMAGOGUE and while many or most will have to hold their noises, Hillary Clinton is the ONLY choice to stop him.

Over the top hysterics.

[Jingthing]

More like truthiness.

Anyone who seriously thinks the Trump movement is a normal political movement should have their head examined.

Former Republican presidents get that. This is a what did you do in the war daddy moment. All decent and sane Americans will resist this rise of fascism.

Edited May 19, 2016 by Jingthing

[ilostmypassword]

When Reps don't like the message, they attack the messenger.

When the messenger delivers fascism/nazism as it's message, it becomes a propagandist.

I have been following U.S. politics all my life. Sure republicans and right wingers have been called fascists before by the left. That is nothing new. But Trump IS something new. The Trump movement is being properly labelled a FASCIST movement by MANY more very credible people than I've ever seen in the American political context. Not only leftists but very MODERATE people as well. It's EVERYWHERE, and globally too. I say, pay attention, this is REAL this time. Don't ignore the threat. Real American patriots (not the fascists in the trump hats) will mobilize against this incredibly dangerous rise of a horrific DEMAGOGUE and while many or most will have to hold their noises, Hillary Clinton is the ONLY choice to stop him.

Over the top hysterics.

homealone.jpg

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-how-fascism-comes-to-america/2016/05/17/c4e32c58-1c47-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-b%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

[Asheron]

There is plenty of time to stop trump from being president, and he MUST be stopped.

Unless you want the USA to turn to FASCISM.

This is how fascism comes to America

This phenomenon has arisen in other democratic and quasi-democratic countries over the past century, and it has generally been called “fascism.” Fascist movements, too, had no coherent ideology, no clear set of prescriptions for what ailed society. “National socialism” was a bundle of contradictions, united chiefly by what, and who, it opposed; fascism in Italy was anti-liberal, anti-democratic, anti-Marxist, anti-capitalist and anti-clerical. Successful fascism was not about policies but about the strongman, the leader (Il Duce, Der Fuhrer), in whom could be entrusted the fate of the nation. Whatever the problem, he could fix it. Whatever the threat, internal or external, he could vanquish it, and it was unnecessary for him to explain how. Today, there is Putinism, which also has nothing to do with belief or policy but is about the tough man who singlehandedly defends his people against all threats, foreign and domestic.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-how-fascism-comes-to-america/2016/05/17/c4e32c58-1c47-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-b%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Fascist supporters warning about fascism in USA... talk about hilarious

[iReason]

A super PAC with longtime Republican ties is funding an ad comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/14/republican-politicos-launch-ad-comparing-donald-trump-to-hitler/#ixzz496XsjT2g

Well, the Wall Street Funded, Flip-Flopping Bloviator did like to keep a volume of Hitler's speeches at his bedside.

Looks like he did some frequent late night reading...

[Publicus]

Well put by Eliot A. Cohen who is the former general counsel of DepState from 2007-2009 when he focuses on the temperament issue that cripples Donald Trump and makes him entirely unqualified to be Potus.... Donald Trump will never make America great

Republican foreign policy veterans like me who have vehemently opposed a Trump candidacy have done so on multiple grounds, beginning with his disdain for the norms of the Constitution. But we also believe that Trumpism in foreign policy is dangerous because of its belligerent nationalism, self-absorption, disdain for allies and comfort with the authoritarian leaders of the day.

Mr Trump's temperament, his proclivity for insult and deceit and his advocacy of unpredictability would make him a presidential disaster - especially in the conduct of foreign policy, where clarity and consistency matter. His claim that he would compel Mexico to pay for a wall separating it from the US, his desire to turn alliances with Europe and Japan into giant protection rackets, his proposals to discard both law and basic decency through extensive use of torture and by barring Muslims from travelling to the US are preposterous; in practice, they would be catastrophic.

http://www.straitsti...e-america-great

[Jingthing]

Obviously but so many information poor Americans like his hat.

[55Jay]

A super PAC with longtime Republican ties is funding an ad comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler:

Well, the Wall Street Funded, Flip-Flopping Bloviator did like to keep a volume of Hitler's speeches at his bedside.

Looks like he did some frequent late night reading...

Desperation.

[iReason]

U.S. foreign policy veteran warns Trump would make world less stable

"Donald Trump's foreign policy proposals would make the world a less stable place,

former Secretary of State James Baker told a U.S. Senate hearing on Thursday as the Republican presidential candidate met elsewhere with party congressional leaders."

"Baker said the world "would be far less stable" with a weaker NATO or if more countries had nuclear weapons as Trump has proposed."

"We've a got a lot of problems today, but we'd have a hell of a lot more if that were the case," Baker told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing,

adding that U.S. commitments around the world "promote U.S. security."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-foreign-idUSKCN0Y32MP

What? Me worry?

[iReason]

Trump's empty administration: As presumptive nominee takes first steps on transition, GOP policy veterans say they're not interested.

"Top Republican political leaders aren’t the only ones shunning their party’s presidential nominee — a vast number of highly skilled managers and policy experts,

veterans of recent GOP administrations who would normally be expected to fill key positions for a new White House, are also vowing to sit out a Donald Trump presidency."

“I would never serve in a Trump administration,” said James Capretta, a former Office of Management and Budget official under George W. Bush.

“The person at the top is unfit for the presidency. He’s made that very clear with his behavior.”

Added Matt McDonald, another Bush OMB veteran: “I wouldn’t vote for Trump, much less work for him. I don’t agree with half his ideas,

and the other half I don’t really believe what he said.”

“The bottom line is Trump will be able to fill these jobs because there is a whole class of people who want these titles so badly it doesn’t matter who is president,

said a former senior George W. Bush administration official. But these are B- or C-level people. They are honorable, but not very good.

The A-level people, and there are not that many of them to begin with, mostly don’t want to work for Trump.

He will cut the A-level bench of available policy talent at least in half, if not more.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-administration-transition-222944#ixzz496oodu5r

I don't blame them. He's like the plague...

Edited May 19, 2016 by iReason

[55Jay]

Trump's empty administration: As presumptive nominee takes first steps on transition, GOP policy veterans say they're not interested.

"Top Republican political leaders aren’t the only ones shunning their party’s presidential nominee — a vast number of highly skilled managers and policy experts,

veterans of recent GOP administrations who would normally be expected to fill key positions for a new White House, are also vowing to sit out a Donald Trump presidency."

“I would never serve in a Trump administration,” said James Capretta, a former Office of Management and Budget official under George W. Bush.

“The person at the top is unfit for the presidency. He’s made that very clear with his behavior.”

Added Matt McDonald, another Bush OMB veteran: “I wouldn’t vote for Trump, much less work for him. I don’t agree with half his ideas,

and the other half I don’t really believe what he said.”

“The bottom line is Trump will be able to fill these jobs because there is a whole class of people who want these titles so badly it doesn’t matter who is president,

said a former senior George W. Bush administration official. But these are B- or C-level people. They are honorable, but not very good.

The A-level people, and there are not that many of them to begin with, mostly don’t want to work for Trump.

He will cut the A-level bench of available policy talent at least in half, if not more.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-administration-transition-222944#ixzz496oodu5r

I don't blame them. He's like the plague...

Oh yeah, the self-proclaimed "A Listers" will stand on their convictions alright. Not.

[Usernames]

U.S. foreign policy veteran warns Trump would make world less stable

"Donald Trump's foreign policy proposals would make the world a less stable place,

former Secretary of State James Baker told a U.S. Senate hearing on Thursday as the Republican presidential candidate met elsewhere with party congressional leaders."

"Baker said the world "would be far less stable" with a weaker NATO or if more countries had nuclear weapons as Trump has proposed."

"We've a got a lot of problems today, but we'd have a hell of a lot more if that were the case," Baker told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing,

adding that U.S. commitments around the world "promote U.S. security."

James Baker, the architect of Bushism.

[OMGImInPattaya]

U.S. foreign policy veteran warns Trump would make world less stable

"Donald Trump's foreign policy proposals would make the world a less stable place,

former Secretary of State James Baker told a U.S. Senate hearing on Thursday as the Republican presidential candidate met elsewhere with party congressional leaders."

"Baker said the world "would be far less stable" with a weaker NATO or if more countries had nuclear weapons as Trump has proposed."

"We've a got a lot of problems today, but we'd have a hell of a lot more if that were the case," Baker told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing,

adding that U.S. commitments around the world "promote U.S. security."

James Baker, the architect of Bushism.

Most of the problems in the world today stem from the Bush interventions in the Middle East...doesn't lend you much credibility quoting from the author of these policies.

[55Jay]

More like truthiness.

Anyone who seriously thinks the Trump movement is a normal political movement should have their head examined.

Former Republican presidents get that. This is a what did you do in the war daddy moment. All decent and sane Americans will resist this rise of fascism.

According to the material you've been binging on that's got you and your CAPS Lock worked up into a froth.

I wouldn't worry about it, JT. These crazy things have a way of working themselves back to the middle.

[ilostmypassword]

U.S. foreign policy veteran warns Trump would make world less stable

"Donald Trump's foreign policy proposals would make the world a less stable place,

former Secretary of State James Baker told a U.S. Senate hearing on Thursday as the Republican presidential candidate met elsewhere with party congressional leaders."

"Baker said the world "would be far less stable" with a weaker NATO or if more countries had nuclear weapons as Trump has proposed."

"We've a got a lot of problems today, but we'd have a hell of a lot more if that were the case," Baker told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing,

adding that U.S. commitments around the world "promote U.S. security."

James Baker, the architect of Bushism.

Most of the problems in the world today stem from the Bush interventions in the Middle East...doesn't lend you much credibility quoting from the author of these policies.

Christopher Hitchens also got Iraq wrong. But he wrote lots of brilliant sharp stuff. Kagan has a lot of things to answer for. But this article isn't one of them. He captures the craziness of the Trump support. The belief in a strong leader even when that leader makes proiposals that are mutually incompatible. I had one person today insist that Donald Trump is a good person. What has he done in his life that makes him some kind of moral exemplar?

[boomerangutang]

Wow, that Hitler comparison is gnarly. Note, in the closing frame it shows Trump's name four times, with the over-sized T's forming a swastika. The campaigns are going to roll in the mud from here until Nov. 8. Every time Trump gnashes his teeth with anger about such political antics, he will want someone to lash out to, someone or some group to blame. All he has to do is look in the mirror (which he probably already does, 200x a day).

It's Trump who has pulled the campaigning down to the gutter, so he shouldn't be surprised when there are responses to match.

To me, he resembles Mussolini more than Hitler, so let's not be surprised if there's an upcoming comparison there, along with Brown Shirts compared to Trump's quick-to-violence supporters.

[iReason]

G.O.P. Foreign Policy Figures Denounce Donald Trump’s Worldview

"In an open letter published on Wednesday night, many of the prominent figures in the administrations of George Bush and George W. Bush denounced Mr. Trump’s worldview,

declaring that “his vision of American influence and power in the world is wildly inconsistent and unmoored in principle.”

“He swings from isolationism to military adventurism within the space of one sentence,” they added.

"The (121) signatories to the letter — which criticizes Mr. Trump’s views on trade, immigration, Muslims, torture and his admiration of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia —

range from Republican moderates to neoconservatives. Among the most prominent is Robert Zoellick, the former president of the World Bank,

who also served as deputy secretary of state and as United States Trade Representative, an office that Mr. Trump has denounced for its negotiating skills."

"But also among the signatories is Michael Chertoff, the former secretary of homeland security; Eric S. Edelman,... and former Defense Secretary Robert Gates;

Dov S. Zakheim, a senior Pentagon official; David R. Shedd, a former C.I.A. officer who ended his intelligence career as the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency"

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/04/us/politics/gop-foreign-policy-figures-denounce-donald-trumps-worldview.html

"Unmoored in principle"

[55Jay]

Wow, that Hitler comparison is gnarly. Note, in the closing frame it shows Trump's name four times, with the over-sized T's forming a swastika. The campaigns are going to roll in the mud from here until Nov. 8. Every time Trump gnashes his teeth with anger about such political antics, he will want someone to lash out to, someone or some group to blame. All he has to do is look in the mirror (which he probably already does, 200x a day).

It's Trump who has pulled the campaigning down to the gutter, so he shouldn't be surprised when there are responses to match.

To me, he resembles Mussolini more than Hitler, so let's not be surprised if there's an upcoming comparison there, along with Brown Shirts compared to Trump's quick-to-violence supporters.

Quick to violence protesters.

[boomerangutang]

Every day Trump makes headlines by contradicting things he railed about earlier. Trump fans aren't going to remember this, but a red-faced Trump, at one of the debates, assailed Jeb Bush for taking campaign donations. Trump ranted on and on saying that big money donors were "Killers" and how Bush was such a softie and was bought & sold by accepting big donations. NOW TRUMP IS DOING IT. He's hired Goldman Sachs execs to milk as much big money as possible. Another fact: Individual donors can donate over $440,000 each. All they have to do is thinly disguise that they're divvying up giant donations with several surrogate 'donors' (friends, family, proxies, whomever). It's all borderline legal.

Thus far, Trump has reversed himself on several key issues he used to promise everyone ( "believe me, folks. You can take this to the bank,...." ). He's as steadfast as a piece of toilet paper floating in a toilet bowl. He's as reliable and slick as Bernie Maddoff. Vote for Trump if you want to see America go tumbling down a steep hill like a rotten log. America's enemies overseas are grinning ear to ear. They're probably finding out how they can clandestinely donate to Trump's campaign fund.

[OMGImInPattaya]

G.O.P. Foreign Policy Figures Denounce Donald Trumps Worldview

"In an open letter published on Wednesday night, many of the prominent figures in the administrations of George Bush and George W. Bush denounced Mr. Trumps worldview,

declaring that his vision of American influence and power in the world is wildly inconsistent and unmoored in principle.

He swings from isolationism to military adventurism within the space of one sentence, they added.

"The (121) signatories to the letter which criticizes Mr. Trumps views on trade, immigration, Muslims, torture and his admiration of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia

range from Republican moderates to neoconservatives. Among the most prominent is Robert Zoellick, the former president of the World Bank,

who also served as deputy secretary of state and as United States Trade Representative, an office that Mr. Trump has denounced for its negotiating skills."

"But also among the signatories is Michael Chertoff, the former secretary of homeland security; Eric S. Edelman,... and former Defense Secretary Robert Gates;

Dov S. Zakheim, a senior Pentagon official; David R. Shedd, a former C.I.A. officer who ended his intelligence career as the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency"

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/04/us/politics/gop-foreign-policy-figures-denounce-donald-trumps-worldview.html

"Unmoored in principle"

How quickly they forget, especially the neo-cons, the tattered state of the world after 3 terms of their esteemed Bushes in office.

[boomerangutang]

Wow, that Hitler comparison is gnarly. Note, in the closing frame it shows Trump's name four times, with the over-sized T's forming a swastika. The campaigns are going to roll in the mud from here until Nov. 8. Every time Trump gnashes his teeth with anger about such political antics, he will want someone to lash out to, someone or some group to blame. All he has to do is look in the mirror (which he probably already does, 200x a day).

It's Trump who has pulled the campaigning down to the gutter, so he shouldn't be surprised when there are responses to match.

To me, he resembles Mussolini more than Hitler, so let's not be surprised if there's an upcoming comparison there, along with Brown Shirts compared to Trump's quick-to-violence supporters.

Quick to violence protesters.

Maybe you didn't see, there's a video of two protesters at a Trump rally. They're seated in the very back bleachers, so they're not blocking anyone's view. They're not making any noise, not even talking. All they're doing is sitting quietly while holding small self-scribbled signs at chest height. Yet those two benign (one could say 'wimpy') protesters were brusquely handled by Trump thugs, and kicked out of the venue.

They're luckier than other peaceful protesters. Some are sucker punched while being led away. In other words, their arms are being held, and a Trump thug winds up and lands a blind-side punch on the protester's face. The puncher is not detained. Indeed, he's probably cheered by the crowd. "Yay, you hit a man in the face who couldn't see you, and who had both arms held tightly by bouncers. What a hero! Go Trump!"

Edited May 19, 2016 by boomerangutang

[Jingthing]

More on the Trump movement's fascist nature:

This very sensible and patriotic American journalist is Jeremy Scahill.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Scahill

Edited May 19, 2016 by Jingthing

[55Jay]

U.S. foreign policy veteran warns Trump would make world less stable

"Donald Trump's foreign policy proposals would make the world a less stable place,

former Secretary of State James Baker told a U.S. Senate hearing on Thursday as the Republican presidential candidate met elsewhere with party congressional leaders."

"Baker said the world "would be far less stable" with a weaker NATO or if more countries had nuclear weapons as Trump has proposed."

"We've a got a lot of problems today, but we'd have a hell of a lot more if that were the case," Baker told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing,

adding that U.S. commitments around the world "promote U.S. security."

James Baker, the architect of Bushism.

Most of the problems in the world today stem from the Bush interventions in the Middle East...doesn't lend you much credibility quoting from the author of these policies.

Christopher Hitchens also got Iraq wrong. But he wrote lots of brilliant sharp stuff. Kagan has a lot of things to answer for. But this article isn't one of them. He captures the craziness of the Trump support. The belief in a strong leader even when that leader makes proiposals that are mutually incompatible. I had one person today insist that Donald Trump is a good person. What has he done in his life that makes him some kind of moral exemplar?

If being a good person, or having others think you are, is the metric, then Hillary's way behind the power curve.

Plenty of accounts of her being a bitch on roller skates in real life and following her previous campaign meltdown, an ineffective leader and manager.

I had the opportunity to sit and talk on two occasions with a retired S/S agent who was on the Clinton detail and the stories he told me line up with what's out in the ether.

I'm not a Trump "guy" but I'm not buying the false front HRC puts up either.

http://nypost.com/2015/10/02/secret-service-agents-hillary-is-a-nightmare-to-work-with/

[Asheron]

Wow, that Hitler comparison is gnarly. Note, in the closing frame it shows Trump's name four times, with the over-sized T's forming a swastika. The campaigns are going to roll in the mud from here until Nov. 8. Every time Trump gnashes his teeth with anger about such political antics, he will want someone to lash out to, someone or some group to blame. All he has to do is look in the mirror (which he probably already does, 200x a day).

It's Trump who has pulled the campaigning down to the gutter, so he shouldn't be surprised when there are responses to match.

To me, he resembles Mussolini more than Hitler, so let's not be surprised if there's an upcoming comparison there, along with Brown Shirts compared to Trump's quick-to-violence supporters.

Quick to violence protesters.

Maybe you didn't see, there's a video of two protesters at a Trump rally. They're seated in the very back bleachers, so they're not blocking anyone's view. They're not making any noise, not even talking. All they're doing is sitting quietly while holding small self-scribbled signs at chest height. Yet those two benign (one could say 'wimpy') protesters were brusquely handled by Trump thugs, and kicked out of the venue.

They're luckier than other peaceful protesters. Some are sucker punched while being led away. In other words, their arms are being held, and a Trump thug winds up and lands a blind-side punch on the protester's face. The puncher is not detained. Indeed, he's probably cheered by the crowd. "Yay, you hit a man in the face who couldn't see you, and who had both arms held tightly by bouncers. What a hero! Go Trump!"

The puncher was arrested immediatelly by police to my knowledge and the clip even shows the cops taking him just seconds after the punch.

[55Jay]

Wow, that Hitler comparison is gnarly. Note, in the closing frame it shows Trump's name four times, with the over-sized T's forming a swastika. The campaigns are going to roll in the mud from here until Nov. 8. Every time Trump gnashes his teeth with anger about such political antics, he will want someone to lash out to, someone or some group to blame. All he has to do is look in the mirror (which he probably already does, 200x a day).

It's Trump who has pulled the campaigning down to the gutter, so he shouldn't be surprised when there are responses to match.

To me, he resembles Mussolini more than Hitler, so let's not be surprised if there's an upcoming comparison there, along with Brown Shirts compared to Trump's quick-to-violence supporters.

Quick to violence protesters.

Maybe you didn't see, there's a video of two protesters at a Trump rally. They're seated in the very back bleachers, so they're not blocking anyone's view. They're not making any noise, not even talking. All they're doing is sitting quietly while holding small self-scribbled signs at chest height. Yet those two benign (one could say 'wimpy') protesters were brusquely handled by Trump thugs, and kicked out of the venue.

They're luckier than other peaceful protesters. Some are sucker punched while being led away. In other words, their arms are being held, and a Trump thug winds up and lands a blind-side punch on the protester's face. The puncher is not detained. Indeed, he's probably cheered by the crowd. "Yay, you hit a man in the face who couldn't see you, and who had both arms held tightly by bouncers. What a hero! Go Trump!"

No, didn't see that. Saw the second one. About 1,000 times by now. He was there to instigate and disrupt. He was a Bernie or Hillary Supporter I imagine. Does that make all Hillary and/or Bernie supporters disruptive instigators? Of course not.

[iReason]

What Would It Take for Donald Trump to Deport 11 Million and Build a Wall?

"Mr. Trump has suggested he will flesh out his ideas in a forthcoming speech. But experts across many fields who have analyzed his plans,

so far warn that they would come at astronomical costs, whoever paid — and would in many ways defy the logic of science, engineering and law."

“I can’t even begin to picture how we would deport 11 million people in a few years where we don’t have a police state,

where the police can’t break down your door at will and take you away without a warrant,”

said Michael Chertoff, who led a significant increase in immigration enforcement as the secretary of Homeland Security under President George W. Bush."

"Running the numbers, Mr. Sternfeld said a 40-foot-tall concrete wall using a “post and panel” system that went 10 feet below the ground — to minimize tunneling — would cost at least $26 billion.

The logistics would be nightmarish, including multiple concrete casting sites and temporary housing for a crew of 1,000 workers if the job were to be completed within Mr. Trump’s first four-year term. Asked whether the proposed wall might impede water flows, Hope Hicks, a Trump spokeswoman, did not directly respond.

“The proposal speaks for itself,” she said, adding that details could be found on Mr. Trump’s website. But the site does not address water flows."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/us/politics/donald-trump-immigration.html?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=Trending&version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

The Wall Street Funded Bloviator is a loon.

And the lemmings lap up this nonsense.

Unbelievable.

Edited May 19, 2016 by iReason

[Publicus]

Donald Trump is the uniquely American incarnation of Mussolini. The Trump campaign is the equivalent of Mussolini's march on Rome as Trump and the Trumpers are conducting their own uniquely American long march on Washington.

It was said a considerable time ago, that if fascism came to American it would appear wrapped in the flag and holding up a cross. That is Donald Trump who is doing exactly that but also very much more in that vein.

Doesn't mean fascism would rule in the USA, only that it would arrive as a part of the political landscape. Which is why it is vital the vast and inclusive political center middle of the US get out to vote in November, as I am confident it will do to smack this down. Keep it localised or regionalised as every previous odious and extremist movement has necessarily been constrained.

This movement of extremist and fringe whackjob fans will go the way of the KKK, the John Birch Society, the Moral Majority and all the rest of 'em.

[Jingthing]

Indeed, but trump could still win, and that should be scary to all decent Americans that despise fascism. Why? Hillary Clinton has very high negatives. Her political flaws are of the more normal kind than trump (trump's movement is a historic one off) ... but it's an opening for the trump fascist movement.