Good chiropractor

[Becker]

I am having neck pain and headach from spending too much time in front of the computer and would like to try a chiropractor to see if that can help.

Any recommendations would be most welcome.

[NickJ]

He is not a chiro but try and search the Health threads and find Nigel in Pattaya near Soi Bukao..........very talented guy and knows his necks.....

[Becker]

He is not a chiro but try and search the Health threads and find Nigel in Pattaya near Soi Bukao..........very talented guy and knows his necks.....

Thanks, but that is not a body part I will let anyone without some form of degree touch.

[CGW]

Ive used David Pack at Pattaya Chiropractic center in the past. he knows his business. (Goggle it, he has a website)

[topt]

He is not a chiro but try and search the Health threads and find Nigel in Pattaya near Soi Bukao..........very talented guy and knows his necks.....

Thanks, but that is not a body part I will let anyone without some form of degree touch.

I can also recommend him having used chiros extensively in the past in the UK - but up to you and I understand your reluctance.

[gamini]

Don Nakoya. bioenergy asia. soi 23 bangkok. very good on neck

[JESSVANPELT]

Nigel is average and he uses to much Cortisone shots to mask the pain. The guy that the Orthopaedic Surgeon at Bangkok hospital recommends is across the road from Tony's gym on third road his name Is Nat.

He has sorted out 4 of my mates.

Good hunting

[topt]

Nigel is average and he uses to much Cortisone shots to mask the pain. The guy that the Orthopaedic Surgeon at Bangkok hospital recommends is across the road from Tony's gym on third road his name Is Nat.

He has sorted out 4 of my mates.

Good hunting

Maybe he changed but I never had cortisone shots from him - it is a couple of years since I last needed to see him however.

Does Nat speak English?

[JESSVANPELT]

Nigel is average and he uses to much Cortisone shots to mask the pain. The guy that the Orthopaedic Surgeon at Bangkok hospital recommends is across the road from Tony's gym on third road his name Is Nat.

He has sorted out 4 of my mates.

Good hunting

Maybe he changed but I never had cortisone shots from him - it is a couple of years since I last needed to see him however.

Does Nat speak English?

Nat, speaks great english and as all the proper education

[Pinot]

Chiropractic works only as an expensive placebo, it being based on spurious, fabricated notions about disease and the spine and joints that have absolutely no basis in reality, but good luck.

[chiang mai]

Be super super careful with Chiropractors in Thailand, I'm a big believer in chiropractics and they've got me out of a number of bad situations with my spine. But a Thai chiropractor in Phuket several years cost me a small fortune in medical diagnostics and consultations trying to track down a swelling and pain in my neck/face resulting from his adjustments, it took a long time before I realized he was the root cause of the problems. The same applies to a couple of UK chiropractors who practice in Thailand at the hospitals, they need to be approached carefully and you need to know the difference between a good chiro. and one who is simply making money, I evidently don't so I hope you do. Good luck.

[Becker]

Be super super careful with Chiropractors in Thailand, I'm a big believer in chiropractics and they've got me out of a number of bad situations with my spine. But a Thai chiropractor in Phuket several years cost me a small fortune in medical diagnostics and consultations trying to track down a swelling and pain in my neck/face resulting from his adjustments, it took a long time before I realized he was the root cause of the problems. The same applies to a couple of UK chiropractors who practice in Thailand at the hospitals, they need to be approached carefully and you need to know the difference between a good chiro. and one who is simply making money, I evidently don't so I hope you do. Good luck.

Thanks. Unfortunately I would not know if a chiropractor was a good one either. That is why I am asking for recommendations since spending a small fortune in BPH did not help at all.

[chiang mai]

Be super super careful with Chiropractors in Thailand, I'm a big believer in chiropractics and they've got me out of a number of bad situations with my spine. But a Thai chiropractor in Phuket several years cost me a small fortune in medical diagnostics and consultations trying to track down a swelling and pain in my neck/face resulting from his adjustments, it took a long time before I realized he was the root cause of the problems. The same applies to a couple of UK chiropractors who practice in Thailand at the hospitals, they need to be approached carefully and you need to know the difference between a good chiro. and one who is simply making money, I evidently don't so I hope you do. Good luck.

Thanks. Unfortunately I would not know if a chiropractor was a good one either. That is why I am asking for recommendations since spending a small fortune in BPH did not help at all.

I've been the BPH route with similar results hence my sympathies. There's a Brit. Chiro who is Timoney trained and certified that has weekly sessions at Rajavej Hospital in Chiang Mai and at another hospital in Bangkok, not much use for Pattaya I know but maybe he can refer to somebody in Pattaya or nearby? Since I can't give you his name in forum, perhaps google Rajavej hospital, chiang mai, chiropractor, PM me if you can't find.

[Jessi]

In Pattaya there was this guy.....but I think he was the one that got deported for not having a work permit.

Vincens Steen

Tel. 08 4536 5855

http://www.backinmotion.no/

You can find more information Here:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/717723-acupuncture-chiropractors-and-therapeutic-massage-sources/

Some Chiro are good but some just try & string you along to keep milking money from you.

I have had experience with both.

[Jessi]

Chiropractic works only as an expensive placebo, it being based on spurious, fabricated notions about disease and the spine and joints that have absolutely no basis in reality, but good luck.

Im fed up with your post putting down Chiropractors, massage, and Acupuncture.

For me I have had fantastic results from Chiropractors.

[chiang mai]

Chiropractic works only as an expensive placebo, it being based on spurious, fabricated notions about disease and the spine and joints that have absolutely no basis in reality, but good luck.

In 1979 an MRI showed my prolapsed lower disc, the pain was overwhelming and a disectomy was scheduled. Three days prior to the OP a chance call from a chiropractor saw me visiting a chiropractic specialist from South Africa near my home in Oxford, after one session I was pain free and the operation at the Nuffield cancelled, the pain slowly went away completely as I learned how to manage my back. In subsequent years chiropractics now has its own department at the Nuffield Orthopedic Hospital in the UK and works hand in hand with traditional orthopedics, slowly but surely the flat earth types are coming to understand the true shape of the planet!

[raro]

This thread will not be a discussion on the qualifications of chiropractors in general. There are chiropractors (also in Thailand) with proper degrees in place.

[NickJ]

Proper degrees?....walk in to any chiro college in the states and if you have been to a community college they will admit you even if you lack any hard science pre qualifying courses such as chemistry and physics....they allow themselves to administer those pre qualifications.....moving a synovial joint to pop it is not all its cracked up to me....however mobilisation into a joint with proper adjunct threapies helps alot of people. Hi dollar athletes understand this hence a true bonified sports injuries chiro is worth his weight in gold.....problem is the profession as a whole is filled with whakos...I am a GP. and I have friends who are chiros and they speak my language. The majority of the ones here feel oily and tend to remind me of used car salesmen.

[CGW]

Chiropractic works only as an expensive placebo, it being based on spurious, fabricated notions about disease and the spine and joints that have absolutely no basis in reality, but good luck.

Dear! I should have gone to BPH when I slipped a disc, they would have done a better job than a Chiro who had me walking same day, sure they would have been able to prescribe lots of lovely pharmaceuticals as well! being they official sellers!

[raro]

Proper degrees?....walk in to any chiro college in the states and if you have been to a community college they will admit you even if you lack any hard science pre qualifying courses such as chemistry and physics....they allow themselves to administer those pre qualifications.....moving a synovial joint to pop it is not all its cracked up to me....however mobilisation into a joint with proper adjunct threapies helps alot of people. Hi dollar athletes understand this hence a true bonified sports injuries chiro is worth his weight in gold.....problem is the profession as a whole is filled with whakos...I am a GP. and I have friends who are chiros and they speak my language. The majority of the ones here feel oily and tend to remind me of used car salesmen.

There are three Chiros I used over the years so far:

Dr. Mark Leoni - Doctor of Chiropractic Degree and a Bachelor of Science Degree in Human Biology

Dr. David Pack - Doctor of Chiropractic Degree

Vincens - has a degree from the Norwegian chiroprator certification body.

All of them were good, sorted out the problems I had at that time. I cannot see the quack aspect whatsoever.

[Jessi]

Raro,

Is Vincens still working in Pattaya?

[LukDod]

Raro,

Is Vincens still working in Pattaya?

Vincens is a fraud. Also, no chiropractor is licensed to use intravenous drugs!

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/753200-norwegian-chiropractor-arrested-by-pattaya-immigration-police/

[LukDod]

Proper degrees?....walk in to any chiro college in the states and if you have been to a community college they will admit you even if you lack any hard science pre qualifying courses such as chemistry and physics....they allow themselves to administer those pre qualifications.....moving a synovial joint to pop it is not all its cracked up to me....however mobilisation into a joint with proper adjunct threapies helps alot of people. Hi dollar athletes understand this hence a true bonified sports injuries chiro is worth his weight in gold.....problem is the profession as a whole is filled with whakos...I am a GP. and I have friends who are chiros and they speak my language. The majority of the ones here feel oily and tend to remind me of used car salesmen.

I completely disagree with the doctor's initial statement and fully concur with the latter.

Yes, there are some very good and many marginal chiros. This also applies to the various chiro schools

in the US. The latter think that an adjustment (manipulation) is their tool to remedy most maladies. Some

believe they must x-ray all their patients. Not so!. A skeletal manipulation is just _one_ tool of many which

taught in most chiro schools, yet some students foolishly think it is the panacea. Smilarly, a scapel for a

surgeon just represents one of many of a doctor's tools available to use, if indicated, after a patient

has been properly evaluated..

A good chiro knows how to take a proper history (OPQRST), evaluate, do appropriate ortho &

neuro tests, instruct or provide rehabitilation, evaluate diet, and if it appears he patient has a malady

or disease outside the scope of chiro, then refer to an appropriate MD.

Students must also have completed the equivalent of three academic years of undergraduate

study (90 semester units or 135 quarter units at an institution(s) accredited by an agency

recognized by the U.S. Department of Education or an equivalent foreign agency with a GPA

for these 90 hours of not less than 3.0 on a 4.0 scale. The 90 hours will include a minimum of 24

semester hours in life and physical science courses (chemistry: organic and inorganic, physics,

and anatomy (or biology).

Western Assoc. of Schools and Colleges is the accrediting commission for California, where I

graduated from a university and years later changed professions and became a chiro (now retired).

Upon application for accreditation WASC investigates and visits the applicant for a number of years,

reviewing the school's finances, faculty, admin, student facilities, research library, published

and submitted research papers, etc. If the various requirements are met a school can be

accreditied as a college or even as a university.

http://www.wascsenior.org/institutions

There are 4 chiro schools in California. Cleveland, Life West, Palmer and Southern California University

of Health Sciences (formerly named Los Angeles College of Chiropractic). Neither Cleveland or

Palmer are accredited as colleges. Life West is a candidate for college accreditation. SCUHC was

accredited as a college and years ago, was upgraded to university.status.

[balo]

I would be a bit careful with Dr Pack, he will go slowly with you and you end up emptying your wallet , another chiropractor in Bangkok solved my problem in one session. But I would also recommend the orthopedist Nat from the sports clinic.

[Jessi]

I would be a bit careful with Dr Pack, he will go slowly with you and you end up emptying your wallet , another chiropractor in Bangkok solved my problem in one session. But I would also recommend the orthopedist Nat from the sports clinic.

I found the same thing with Dr Pack but that was 10 years ago.

The old guy he bought the practice from was good I think his name was Ron.

balo where is the sports clinic you speak of?

[balo]

I would be a bit careful with Dr Pack, he will go slowly with you and you end up emptying your wallet , another chiropractor in Bangkok solved my problem in one session. But I would also recommend the orthopedist Nat from the sports clinic.

I found the same thing with Dr Pack but that was 10 years ago.

The old guy he bought the practice from was good I think his name was Ron.

balo where is the sports clinic you speak of?

The location is across Tony's gym in 3rd rd.

His website is http://physicaltherapypattaya.blogspot.com

[Jessi]

I would be a bit careful with Dr Pack, he will go slowly with you and you end up emptying your wallet , another chiropractor in Bangkok solved my problem in one session. But I would also recommend the orthopedist Nat from the sports clinic.

I found the same thing with Dr Pack but that was 10 years ago.

The old guy he bought the practice from was good I think his name was Ron.

balo where is the sports clinic you speak of?

The location is across Tony's gym in 3rd rd.

His website is http://physicaltherapypattaya.blogspot.com

Thank you for that info balo.

[sikishrory]

I would be a bit careful with Dr Pack, he will go slowly with you and you end up emptying your wallet , another chiropractor in Bangkok solved my problem in one session. But I would also recommend the orthopedist Nat from the sports clinic.

Yeh. He does a good job but certainly tries to get as many consulatations as he can out of a sore neck

[scubascuba3]

I would be a bit careful with Dr Pack, he will go slowly with you and you end up emptying your wallet , another chiropractor in Bangkok solved my problem in one session. But I would also recommend the orthopedist Nat from the sports clinic.

Yeh. He does a good job but certainly tries to get as many consulatations as he can out of a sore neck

Isn't it standard for physios/chiropractors etc to drag the treatment out If they can? Even more so when its covered by insurance. Although you are meant to trust the professional you should be sceptical with the number of sessions required.

I had a chiropractor 7 sessions click and hope, didnt help at all. Physio 7 sessions, first one was the key one which is really all i needed.

[louse1953]

On 3/19/2016 at 4:58 PM, Pinot said:

Chiropractic works only as an expensive placebo, it being based on spurious, fabricated notions about disease and the spine and joints that have absolutely no basis in reality, but good luck.

Rubbish