rooster59 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Phuket Opinion: Another day in paradise?The Phuket News The death on March 11 of taxi driver Teerawat Phetdam underlines just how dangerous it can be for unsuspecting tourists travelling through Phuket. Photo: PHUKET: One of the most typical promises regularly flouted by Phuket officials is to “prioritise the safety and security of tourists”. All-too-often such reassurances turn out to be mere lip service.The death on March 11 of taxi driver Teerawat Phetdam underlines just how dangerous it can be for unsuspecting tourists travelling through Phuket. (See story here.)Teerwat died after he crashed his vehicle into the back of a crane truck on the bypass road, and though his Chinese passengers were “lucky” to have escaped the same fate, the incident is yet another firm reminder that the safety of tourists on Phuket roads is not, and has not been, a priority.Are all the officials who claim to be concerned with the well-being of tourists oblivious to the fact that most taxi, minivan and coach drivers chauffeuring tourists around are driving recklessly, fearless of the law, never mind their own demise.Perhaps officials have simply overlooked, or underestimated, the number of accidents caused by those who are supposed to safeguard the passage of the island’s lifebloodSurely these officials use the same roads in Phuket, particularly of Thepkrasattri Rd, the main artery to and from the airport, along which many of the reckless-driving accidents happen. Full story: http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-opinion-another-day-in-paradise-56658.php -- Phuket News 2016-03-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Bottom Line - They Simply Don't Care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 How do you know authorities are lying? Their lips are moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 The local police are very adept at throwing up roadblocks everywhere to check for such things as helmets, passports, kratoum (sp) leaves or improperly dressed taxi drivers, but the speedway that is Thepkrasattri Rd seems to be exempt from their gaze. Taxis and minibuses apparently feel the need to fly down this road as if being pursued by Jason Bourne. Every now and again one of them comes to grief big time and often take innocents with them. We have a local taxi driver we always use. He is reliable, reasonably priced and very personable. However, my visitors always arrive slightly terrified because of his speed driving through the traffic. The need for speed seems inbuilt with these guys. The Police need to target this road for speeders in a big way, Never thought I would say something like this, but the road needs radar traps, proper speed cameras and an attitude from enforcement that excludes special influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Never thought I would say something like this, but the road needs radar traps, proper speed cameras and an attitude from enforcement that excludes special influence. Now you can wait till the "if-you-dont-like-it-here-and-want-a-nanny-state-then-you-should-go-back-to-your-own-country-brigade". But I agree. Stamping out corruption by changing the mindset of the police will be extremely hard, so why not just "replace" them with machines. A speed camera does not care if the car is owned by a rich person or not, and with the correct checks-and-balances (I know, that will be hard but can be controlled top-down) the bill will arrive automatically in their mailbox. Guess how many people would still speed when they get a fine of 200 baht for every time they do it? Their priorities will quickly change after receiving a fine 10 days in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamNoone88 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Safety begins with the responsibility of every single individual. Therein lies the fundamental problem in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godden Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Some people have a strange idea of what paradise is like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans12345 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Never thought I would say something like this, but the road needs radar traps, proper speed cameras and an attitude from enforcement that excludes special influence. Now you can wait till the "if-you-dont-like-it-here-and-want-a-nanny-state-then-you-should-go-back-to-your-own-country-brigade". But I agree. Stamping out corruption by changing the mindset of the police will be extremely hard, so why not just "replace" them with machines. A speed camera does not care if the car is owned by a rich person or not, and with the correct checks-and-balances (I know, that will be hard but can be controlled top-down) the bill will arrive automatically in their mailbox. Guess how many people would still speed when they get a fine of 200 baht for every time they do it? Their priorities will quickly change after receiving a fine 10 days in a row. You realy think a fine of 200 bath works make it a thousand and people will change their habbits after one day. Plus i.g. driving without a helmet leave your motorcycle and get a helmet first before moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechbum Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Bottom line is traffic cops need to enforce the law, pull up speeding drivers of whatever vehicle they're in a book them, plenty of farangs fall into the category as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 ...guess again..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Bottom line is traffic cops need to enforce the law, pull up speeding drivers of whatever vehicle they're in a book them, plenty of farangs fall into the category as well. Agree with you in part, beechbum, but for me, the "bottom line" would be to fire every last cop in Thailand, including my Senior Sergeant Major cousin-in-law. Let the military take over to temporary fill that role (they couldn't do any worse), then bring in PROFESSIONALS from Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, and start training a new, fresh crop of men and women to teach them what it REALLY means to be a cop, and the CORRECT way to do their job. Only then will you see a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inepto Cracy Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) I guess when TAT says welcome to paradise, they mean paradise as in heaven, not the beautiful country. The land of killer taxis, busses and mini vans. Flip it you dont read sh.. about motorcy taxis killing off their passengers? Now that last sentance makes you think, does it not? Edited March 20, 2016 by Inepto Cracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tom Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 The whole island just needs speed humps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 The words "safety" and "Thailand" simply do not go together well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Never thought I would say something like this, but the road needs radar traps, proper speed cameras and an attitude from enforcement that excludes special influence. Now you can wait till the "if-you-dont-like-it-here-and-want-a-nanny-state-then-you-should-go-back-to-your-own-country-brigade". But I agree. Stamping out corruption by changing the mindset of the police will be extremely hard, so why not just "replace" them with machines. A speed camera does not care if the car is owned by a rich person or not, and with the correct checks-and-balances (I know, that will be hard but can be controlled top-down) the bill will arrive automatically in their mailbox. Guess how many people would still speed when they get a fine of 200 baht for every time they do it? Their priorities will quickly change after receiving a fine 10 days in a row. Adopt the same method as Dubai and the Emirates use. To purchase or rent a vehicle you need to have a phone which is registered at the time of purchase. Get caught by a speed trap and within minutes the fine arrives at your phone. Not you driving, tough luck you will get the fine and it will go against your driving record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Why is Phuket its own country? Why do they have their own rules and why is everything trying to kill you there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDave Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 The local police are very adept at throwing up roadblocks everywhere to check for such things as helmets, passports, kratoum (sp) leaves or improperly dressed taxi drivers, but the speedway that is Thepkrasattri Rd seems to be exempt from their gaze. Taxis and minibuses apparently feel the need to fly down this road as if being pursued by Jason Bourne. Every now and again one of them comes to grief big time and often take innocents with them. We have a local taxi driver we always use. He is reliable, reasonably priced and very personable. However, my visitors always arrive slightly terrified because of his speed driving through the traffic. The need for speed seems inbuilt with these guys. The Police need to target this road for speeders in a big way, Never thought I would say something like this, but the road needs radar traps, proper speed cameras and an attitude from enforcement that excludes special influence. The problem, however, is that police would be required to give chase to offenders. They just don't do that here, which is why there's no enforcement for moving violations. They do roadblocks because it requires very little effort, and a good deal of time can be spent socializing with their buddies while waiting for the next vehicle to pass through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Bottom Line - They Simply Don't Care. Their is no way for officials/politicians to make money from caring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 This is a country where the police do not uphold the law. Until they change their attitude, (attitude adjustment) nothing will change to the detriment of the Thai people. Pathetic country. Kick the slime ball out and along with the creature who hire these police criminals. They are all scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Oops sorry about the grammar. I was mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 The local police are very adept at throwing up roadblocks everywhere to check for such things as helmets, passports, kratoum (sp) leaves or improperly dressed taxi drivers, but the speedway that is Thepkrasattri Rd seems to be exempt from their gaze. Taxis and minibuses apparently feel the need to fly down this road as if being pursued by Jason Bourne. Every now and again one of them comes to grief big time and often take innocents with them. We have a local taxi driver we always use. He is reliable, reasonably priced and very personable. However, my visitors always arrive slightly terrified because of his speed driving through the traffic. The need for speed seems inbuilt with these guys. The Police need to target this road for speeders in a big way, Never thought I would say something like this, but the road needs radar traps, proper speed cameras and an attitude from enforcement that excludes special influence. The problem, however, is that police would be required to give chase to offenders. They just don't do that here, which is why there's no enforcement for moving violations. They do roadblocks because it requires very little effort, and a good deal of time can be spent socializing with their buddies while waiting for the next vehicle to pass through. The RTP appears not to have cars equipped and outfitted for traffic stops. Trained Traffic Officers seem to be a rare bird in the land of paradise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinot Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Bottom line is traffic cops need to enforce the law, pull up speeding drivers of whatever vehicle they're in a book them, plenty of farangs fall into the category as well. What traffic cops? There are no traffic cops. Thailand is the most dangerous place in the world to drive and Phuket is the most dangerous place in Thailand to drive. The BIB are not trained for traffic law enforcement and they don't have the vehicles or equipment. Their one weapon against the insane driving is the roadside check. That's more of a revenue generator than a road safety thing. For me the bottom line is driving is extremely dangerous and it's never going to get any better. This is Thailand. Along with everything else the Thais will never deal with something till they have no choice, like the Thai airline industry, the fishing industry or pollution on Phi Phi. Quite simply, it's not in their nature to deal with anything till they have to. Throw in the mentality of Buddha will take care and Thais are never going to do FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakk9 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Why is Phuket its own country? Why do they have their own rules and why is everything trying to kill you there? Do they have traffic rules in Phuket? That sounds like an improvement to the parts of Thailand that I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Why is Phuket its own country? Why do they have their own rules and why is everything trying to kill you there? Do they have traffic rules in Phuket? That sounds like an improvement to the parts of Thailand that I know I just want to know why Phuket immigration have bottles of water with overstay penalties, but not Bangkok, Pattaya, Chiang Mai, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felt 35 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Why is Phuket its own country? Why do they have their own rules and why is everything trying to kill you there? Historically.....far from Bangkok and now and then I think we still can see this playing out..."investigation team from Bangkok" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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