It is off the original subject, but since "O" and O-A" visa was mentioned,what is the difference? I get already many "O" visa's based on over 50.I never heard about the "O-A"visa based on age. Would appreciate it if someone could explain. Also can I extend my "O"visa (1year multi entry) in Thailand? Visa's obtained in my home country. Thanks for the enlightment

Non 'O'.

• Yes you can apply for a 1 year extension of stay during the last 30 (45 at some offices) days of any of your 90 day entries.
• You need 800K in your Thai bank for 60 days prior to the application date OR a certified (by your embassy) income of 65K pm OR a combination of the two.

Non 'O-A'

• Only available from home countries or a country you have legal residence.
• The same financial requirements but the 800K can be in a bank in your home country.
• It allows multiple (unlimited) entries for 1 year.
• Each entry is granted a 1 year stay.
• An entry towards the end of the year to get a new 1 year entry makes it possible to stay for nearly two years before needing a new visa or extension of stay.

Edited March 23, 201610 yr by elviajero

You guys (usa ) certainly have different system to OZ. We apply for a national police check.

Does your "state patrol" cover all history in the whole of USA?

Perhaps they should be applying for Australian citizenship - we give it to everyone else, including drug dealers and terrorists.

I understand the American IRS makes the ATO look like a benign and friendly uncle in terms of tax matters.

O-A can only be issued by an official Embassy/Consulate in your home country -- not issued by honorary consulates.

If of course, you happen to be born or reside in the correct country. Don't expect all Embassies to have this non O-A on the menu.

Edited March 23, 201610 yr by lkv

Elviajero thanks for explicit reply.

I have a few questions left:

I thought that a "O"visa was also only available from home/residence country. True or False?

Will both extensions grant unlimited entries during the whole extension year?

Can those extensions be endlessly repeated,without the need to return to the home/residence country?

What is the cost of extension for both type of visa's

Thanks again

Elviajero thanks for explicit reply.

I have a few questions left:

I thought that a "O"visa was also only available from home/residence country. True or False?

Will both extensions grant unlimited entries during the whole extension year?

Can those extensions be endlessly repeated,without the need to return to the home/residence country?

What is the cost of extension for both type of visa's

Thanks again

1. Single entry (S) non 'O's based on being over 50 are available at most Embassies/Consulates to many different nationals. However, multiple entry (ME) are harder to come by. Even some Embassies in home countries have stopped issuing ME's and want people to apply for the 'O-A'.
2. No. If you have an extension of stay you need to buy a re-entry permit if you want to exit/re-enter during the year. Single 1,000 baht; Multiple 3,800 baht.
3. Yes. You can apply for a new 1 year extension at your local immigration office towards the end of each year.
4. All extensions of stay cost 1,900 baht.

Visas are just used to enter the country. You never extend a visa just the permit to stay granted on entry.

Edited March 23, 201610 yr by elviajero

O-A can only be issued by an official Embassy/Consulate in your home country -- not issued by honorary consulates.

If of course, you happen to be born or reside in the correct country. Don't expect all Embassies to have this non O-A on the menu.

My apologies -- not every country has a Thai embassy or consulate however every country has a designated Thai embassy in an adjacent or nearby country that will handle official Thai business. Whether that designated country embassy can handle O-A visas should be determined on an individual case basis.

Edited March 23, 201610 yr by JLCrab

I never heard about the O-A visa for over 50-ties.But JLCrab explained that these are only available from Consulate/Embassy in home/residence or designated country.

I always obtained MT Multi "O" from Hon.Cons.in Amsterdam.

Sorry for my ignorance but is the only difference for documentation needed for the "O-A"visa the Police Clearance Certificate?

Do I buy the multi entry permit at the same time I apply for the extension to stay (learning ?)

What are the exact documents needed for the extension to stay for a "O" or "A-O" visa?

Thanks again for helping me to see the ?

I never heard about the O-A visa for over 50-ties.But JLCrab explained that these are only available from Consulate/Embassy in home/residence or designated country.

I always obtained MT Multi "O" from Hon.Cons.in Amsterdam.

Sorry for my ignorance but is the only difference for documentation needed for the "O-A"visa the Police Clearance Certificate?

Do I buy the multi entry permit at the same time I apply for the extension to stay (learning ?)

What are the exact documents needed for the extension to stay for a "O" or "A-O" visa?

Thanks again for helping me to see the ?

1. I just checked the Amsterdam website and it doesn't look like they offer the non 'O-A' which is probably why you haven't heard of it.
2. A criminal check and medical report are the main differences.
   • The financial requirements are the same as the non 'O'.
   • If you are limited to the non 'O' you might be better off just getting a 1 year extension of stay and re-entery permit.
3. Yes you can apply for the re-entry permit once the extension has been granted (same day) or apply at a later date. They are also available at the major international Airports on departure.
4. Depends. Assuming you are applying using the cash in the bank you need: Application form TM7. Photo, Copies of passport pages, updated bank passbook, letter from the bank confirming the balance, proof of address. If using the income method it's the same, but you need a letter from your Embassy certifying your income. It's very straightforward.

Edited March 23, 201610 yr by elviajero

I never heard about the O-A visa for over 50-ties.But JLCrab explained that these are only available from Consulate/Embassy in home/residence or designated country.

I always obtained MT Multi "O" from Hon.Cons.in Amsterdam.

Sorry for my ignorance but is the only difference for documentation needed for the "O-A"visa the Police Clearance Certificate?

Do I buy the multi entry permit at the same time I apply for the extension to stay (learning ?)

What are the exact documents needed for the extension to stay for a "O" or "A-O" visa?

Thanks again for helping me to see the ?

1. I just checked the Amsterdam website and it doesn't look like they offer the non 'O-A' which is probably why you haven't heard of it.
2. A criminal check and medical report are the main differences.
   • The financial requirements are the same as the non 'O'.
   • If you are limited to the non 'O' you might be better off just getting a 1 year extension of stay and re-entery permit.
3. Yes you can apply for the re-entry permit once the extension has been granted (same day) or apply at a later date. They are also available at the major international Airports on departure.
4. Depends. Assuming you are applying using the cash in the bank you need: Application form TM7. Photo, Copies of passport pages, updated bank passbook, letter from the bank confirming the balance, proof of address. If using the income method it's the same, but you need a letter from your Embassy certifying your income. It's very straightforward.

The Thai Embassy in the Netherlands is found in The Hague !

They do the O/A visa but refer to it as a LONG STAY visa.

http://www.thaiembassy.org/hague/th/services/42919-Doing-BussinessStudyLong-Stay-or-other-purposes.html

NB The website contains errors !

I believe in some countries, you can get this multiple entry non O-A as easily as you can get a 3 year Multiple Entry Non B.

I mean in theory it should be available at every Embassy....but yeah....

As I said, some nationalities may find themselves being more fortunate than others when it comes to visas that grant you a one year permission of stay on arrival.

Edited March 23, 201610 yr by lkv

Thanks everyone, it is loud ? and clear now.

Good and expert advice, highly appreciated

Sorry one more question popped up.

With an extension of stay on a "O-A" visa I will get at every entry a 1year permit to stay.

On the "O" extension to stay, do I also get a 1year permission or do I get a 3 months permission and have to leave or have to report or whatever.

Sorry is all a little confusing

Thanks

You could probably get another SETV from Vientiane..isn't it the best place to get one and there's no hassle about presenting them any additional documents as plain tickets out of Thailand etc right?

Sorry one more question popped up.

With an extension of stay on a "O-A" visa I will get at every entry a 1year permit to stay.

On the "O" extension to stay, do I also get a 1year permission or do I get a 3 months permission and have to leave or have to report or whatever.

Sorry is all a little confusing

Thanks

The extension of stay based on retirement (over 50) for either a 'O' or 'O-A' entry will be exactly the same. You'll get a 1 year permit to stay. You don't need to leave the country but you have to report to immigration if you stay for 90 consecutive days (and any consecutive 90 days thereafter).

The visa just gives you entry.

'O' = 90 days

'O-A' = 1 year.

You apply for the extension of stay in the last 30 days of either entry.

Sorry one more question popped up.

With an extension of stay on a "O-A" visa I will get at every entry a 1year permit to stay.

On the "O" extension to stay, do I also get a 1year permission or do I get a 3 months permission and have to leave or have to report or whatever.

Sorry is all a little confusing

Thanks

Single Entry Non O - you get a 90 day permission of stay, then you can apply for an extension of stay at local Immigration for 12 months providing the required documents

Multiple Entry Non O - allows an unlimited number of entries into Thailand, each entry with a permission of stay of 90 days. So you do visa runs every 90 days. You can decide to extend at any point an entry by applying for a 12 month extension of stay at local Immigration.

Multiple Entry Non O-A - allows unlimited entries into Thailand over a period of 12 months. The permission of stay given every time you enter the country is 12 months​. So if you don't have to bother with extensions. People lucky enough to get this visa can exit one last time before expiry, get another 12 month stay, then apply for a multiple reentry permit at local Immigration, which effectively makes this visa usable for 2 years. Or you could obviously apply for an extension towards the end of the 12 months, but many choose not to because they would have to meet the financial requirements required by Thai Immigration (800K in the Thai bank or foreign pension proof - min 65K baht), so it's just easier for them to just exit Thailand and get another year on reentry.

Edited March 23, 201610 yr by lkv