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Import used possessions duty free?

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I have a non-O based in marriage and have had a couple of extensions on it.

I have been travelling back and forth to my own country but am now ready to basically take up permanent residence.

I was wondering if it is too late to bring a container of possessions into the country duty free.

I have read there is a 6 month limit after the extension is granted.

I guess the follow up would be, if I let the extension expire and get a new visa, would this qualify?

Seems silly if it did, but......

Yes, the solution you suggest seems silly, but I expect it would work. In such situations, the Thais tend to be very literal-minded.

Unless you are working in Thailand there is no easy duty free import - if you have your wife leave and live with you overseas then she might be able to import on return after a year.

http://www.customs.go.th/wps/wcm/connect/custen/individuals/importing+used+or+secondhand+household+effects+/importingusedsecondhandhouseholdeffects

Import duty on normal used items would probably not bee that much - but it will always be a bit of an unknown/gamble so might be less stress to sell and replace.

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I am basing this on what I read here...hope its ok to link.

http://www.legal-thailand.com/moving-to-thailand-household-goods.html

I have heard dealing with Thai Customs can be "taxing" :-)

So unless it is relatively simple, you're right.

Unless you are working in Thailand there is no easy duty free import - if you have your wife leave and live with you overseas then she might be able to import on return after a year.

http://www.customs.go.th/wps/wcm/connect/custen/individuals/importing+used+or+secondhand+household+effects+/importingusedsecondhandhouseholdeffects

Import duty on normal used items would probably not bee that much - but it will always be a bit of an unknown/gamble so might be less stress to sell and replace.

That info from a commercial website in out of date and/or just wrong.

The link posted has the correct and is an official website.

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Thanks Ubonjoe.

Although that site is as clear as mud to me.

On the one hand it says:

Nonresidents resuming residents in Thailand must be granted a non-immigrant quota as shown in a passport or a Nonresident Identification Card; or

Nonresidents granted to work in Thailand are regarded as resuming residents in Thailand provided they have a one-year non-immigrant visa issued by the Immigration Department. In case where the non-immigrant visa has not yet been granted, either of the following documents may be accepted:

Notice the "OR"...and what is a non-immigrant quota? A visa?

On the other hand regarding documents it says:

Nonresidents are required to submit the following documents:

The letter issued by the Immigration Department confirming that an annual temporary stay is granted;

A one-year (or more) work permit issued by the Department of Labor;

As though you need both.

And as to the timing issue. If I leave the country with a re-entry permit would I have 6 months after that? Or would I need a new visa, and would that even be legal?

This statement doesn't really specify.

It is important that the used/secondhand household effects must be imported not earlier than one month before or not later than six months after the arrival of the importers. Under exceptional circumstances, Customs may extend the time limits for the importers.

Thanks Ubonjoe.

Although that site is as clear as mud to me.

On the one hand it says:

Nonresidents resuming residents in Thailand must be granted a non-immigrant quota as shown in a passport or a Nonresident Identification Card; or

Nonresidents granted to work in Thailand are regarded as resuming residents in Thailand provided they have a one-year non-immigrant visa issued by the Immigration Department. In case where the non-immigrant visa has not yet been granted, either of the following documents may be accepted:

Notice the "OR"...and what is a non-immigrant quota? A visa?

On the other hand regarding documents it says:

Nonresidents are required to submit the following documents:

The letter issued by the Immigration Department confirming that an annual temporary stay is granted;

A one-year (or more) work permit issued by the Department of Labor;

As though you need both.

And as to the timing issue. If I leave the country with a re-entry permit would I have 6 months after that? Or would I need a new visa, and would that even be legal?

This statement doesn't really specify.

It is important that the used/secondhand household effects must be imported not earlier than one month before or not later than six months after the arrival of the importers. Under exceptional circumstances, Customs may extend the time limits for the importers.

Sorry you are confused !

1. A non immigrant quota applies to those who are citizens of neighboring countries.

2. A work permit is required in addition to an appropriate visa before a person can legally work.

It is very unlikely, based on what you say, that you will be permitted to import household goods/personal possessions duty free.

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OK thanks. I had no idea what and had never heard of a non-immigrant quota.

So it sounds like they shut the door on retirees or those married to Thais bringing household possessions in.

OK thanks. I had no idea what and had never heard of a non-immigrant quota.

So it sounds like they shut the door on retirees or those married to Thais bringing household possessions in.

You can bring things in just do not expect not to have to pay duties.

Many people find it is not cost effective to import the majority of household goods as they can be easily be purchased in Thailand.

I would suggest you sell/give away most of the things you had thought about importing.

Items of a truly personal nature rarely attract tax.

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Well, my idea was to purchase a container and use it in Thailand as basically a garden shed.

Yes I can purchase items here, but, for instance, an equivalent sofa set would be well north of 150K.

Was this law recently changed? Asiatradingonline for instance is still showing a possible exemption for one year visas and that's their business.

Well, my idea was to purchase a container and use it in Thailand as basically a garden shed.

Yes I can purchase items here, but, for instance, an equivalent sofa set would be well north of 150K.

Was this law recently changed? Asiatradingonline for instance is still showing a possible exemption for one year visas and that's their business.

If you wish or prefer to believe what commercial websites tell you that is your choice/business.

As far as I am aware there have been no recent changes in Thai Customs law/regulation/requirements.

Like you, I found the official website confusing. Also, I would expect, when changing residence, to be allowed to bring my household possessions with me without needing to pay duty. Logic does not always apply in Thailand, so the advice you are being given that you cannot avoid paying customs duty may be accurate. I would try to talk directly with the customs department to confirm all this though.

if your wife has ever been with you over sea's ?

if so ship everything in her name,thats the way we shipped a 62ft'r here

had to put a 50000bt deposit on the box,to get it shipped up here

you'll get your deposit back when they get the box back,customs didn't even open the box,still had the same seal on it

as when it left the states,also no duty,and we had the box packed full,money well spent

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if your wife has ever been with you over sea's ?

if so ship everything in her name,thats the way we shipped a 62ft'r here

had to put a 50000bt deposit on the box,to get it shipped up here

you'll get your deposit back when they get the box back,customs didn't even open the box,still had the same seal on it

as when it left the states,also no duty,and we had the box packed full,money well spent

No, my wife was here. Basically building a house during trips here.

It would be relatively easy if she was a returning Thai citizen.

I was hoping that instead of getting cents on a dollar I could move my furnishings here.

Apparently I had misunderstood that a non-Thai, if taking up residency, could also furnish the family home with previously uses household goods.

Seems incongruous to me.

I'll call Thai Customs and see if that is actually the case.

Thanks for input.

if your wife has ever been with you over sea's ?

if so ship everything in her name,thats the way we shipped a 62ft'r here

had to put a 50000bt deposit on the box,to get it shipped up here

you'll get your deposit back when they get the box back,customs didn't even open the box,still had the same seal on it

as when it left the states,also no duty,and we had the box packed full,money well spent

No, my wife was here. Basically building a house during trips here.

It would be relatively easy if she was a returning Thai citizen.

I was hoping that instead of getting cents on a dollar I could move my furnishings here.

Apparently I had misunderstood that a non-Thai, if taking up residency, could also furnish the family home with previously uses household goods.

Seems incongruous to me.

I'll call Thai Customs and see if that is actually the case.

Thanks for input.

Be sure to let us know the outcome of your discussion with the Thai Customs particularly if , given your circumstance, they agree that you can import all your possessions duty free.

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OK johnatong, I'll try to keep it updated.

BTW, as per our previous discussion, a non-immigrant quota visa seems to apply to non-Thais who have been granted permanent residency and is like a re-entry visa from what I have read. Not people from neighbouring countries.

OK johnatong, I'll try to keep it updated.

BTW, as per our previous discussion, a non-immigrant quota visa seems to apply to non-Thais who have been granted permanent residency and is like a re-entry visa from what I have read. Not people from neighbouring countries.

Whatever you say a "non-immigrant quota" is must be true.

Thanks for informing me ----

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