carmine Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 There is talk torres has been dropped for the juve clash, could be bull as in the mail. http://www.dailymail...d-Juventus.html Big mistake if we do drop him,we have at least 15 games to play before we could replace him. Sturridge is no replacement,he is far too selfish. We have to get Lukaku back asap. Or just spend 80m on Falcao in jan! Now calm down Keith you're sounding hysterical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 press this morning saying di matteo may have had his chips and that horrible mad bastard abramovich is thinking about another short-term appointment. disappointingly they're linking him with rafa benitez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 press this morning saying di matteo may have had his chips and that horrible mad bastard abramovich is thinking about another short-term appointment. disappointingly they're linking him with rafa benitez. I very much doubt an experienced manager like Benitez would accept a short term appointment. He'd be in an almost impossible position and its not as if he needs the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I very much doubt an experienced manager like Benitez would accept a short term appointment. He'd be in an almost impossible position and its not as if he needs the cash. guus hiddink did. it'd be a shop window as well for benitez. i think he needs to get back into work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Abramovich should just make himself manager and hire an assistant coach, maybe play up front too, Captain/Coach - Build the team around himself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Abramovich should just make himself manager and hire an assistant coach, maybe play up front too, Captain/Coach - Build the team around himself He has enough money he can do what he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I very much doubt an experienced manager like Benitez would accept a short term appointment. He'd be in an almost impossible position and its not as if he needs the cash. guus hiddink did. it'd be a shop window as well for benitez. i think he needs to get back into work. Agree i was shocked when Dalglish was sacked that rafa did not get the job,he still live in Liverpool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Abramovich should just make himself manager and hire an assistant coach, maybe play up front too, Captain/Coach - Build the team around himself john terry surely? Agree i was shocked when Dalglish was sacked that rafa did not get the job,he still live in Liverpool? yeah, lives in a nice big house on the wirral. spends his time watching football and blogging about it on his website. a lot of LFC fans wanted him back after kenny but FSG apparently have their own ideas and weren't prepared to go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellred Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) I think Rafa will hold out for the Liverpool job yet. As others have alluded to he isn't a manager to work short term. Also he's got a bit more class about him than to work at somewhere like Chelsea tbh. No offence. Abramovich has spent so much money sacking and hiring managers you would have thought he would have his coaching badges by now. If he has any desire he will go hand in hat to Mourinho. It's astonishing though how a club can spend so much money over such a long period of time and still go to bits the way they have. I guess assembling a team of mercenaries is not always the way to go. Edited November 21, 2012 by wellred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I think Rafa will hold out for the Liverpool job yet. As others have alluded to he isn't a manager to work short term. Also he's got a bit more class about him than to work at somewhere like Chelsea tbh. No offence. Abramovich has spent so much money sacking and hiring managers you would have thought he would have his coaching badges by now. If he has any desire he will go hand in hat to Mourinho. It's astonishing though how a club can spend so much money over such a long period of time and still go to bits the way they have. I guess assembling a team of mercenaries is not always the way to go. i don't think there is even a remote chance that Benitez would work under Henry and Werner. They are only a couple of rungs up the ladder from the other pair that preceded them. i do though that he needs to start working again. He's been out of the game too long already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I think Zola himself said recently you can buy Torres' services but you can't buy his love for Liverpool. He clearly doesn't want to be there. But I think the issue is Chelsea are not playing to his strengths. Everyone saw at Liverpool how lethal he can be when you set your team up around him. Could do a job for Spurs........what was his relationship with AVB like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I think Zola himself said recently you can buy Torres' services but you can't buy his love for Liverpool. He clearly doesn't want to be there. But I think the issue is Chelsea are not playing to his strengths. Everyone saw at Liverpool how lethal he can be when you set your team up around him. Could do a job for Spurs........what was his relationship with AVB like? You know what, if you are not on the Spurs thread you're on anther thread talking about Spurs! Now back to that other post. Torres never loved Liverpool otherwise he wouldn't hace screwed them over massively by demanding a last minute transfer request. He's just the normal mercenary footballer. Secondly, although i once thought he'd have a really good season i've now lost nearly all my faith in him. A cut price buy at 7m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I think Rafa will hold out for the Liverpool job yet. As others have alluded to he isn't a manager to work short term. Also he's got a bit more class about him than to work at somewhere like Chelsea tbh. No offence. Rafa has too much class to work at Chelsea? Really? Reminds me of the earlier comment Stevie made about Suarez being in love with Liverpool. I just think you guys are projecting your own romantic notions onto players and managers, when the truth is these days those sorts of ideas and thoughts are pretty non-existent. Players and managers are employees, like the rest of us mugs, and what they do, what we feel so passionately about, is for them, their job. Not saying they aren't passionate about football, but when it comes to their own careers, i think it's a pretty simple equation of what club can offer the best combination of financial reward and career success/ notoriety. If Chelsea can do that, i believe Rafa won't hesitate for a second, classy club or not. As Stevie says, Rafa needs to put himself in the shop window. Chelsea would be a very high profile window, working with some good talent, and if it's short term, with an easy escape and one that wouldn't totally ruin his career or reputation, if things didn't go well. Can always blame the person that came before you and say you didn't have enough time to work your magic. It's astonishing though how a club can spend so much money over such a long period of time and still go to bits the way they have. I guess assembling a team of mercenaries is not always the way to go. Go to bits? Are we still talking about the club very near the top of the table with some of the most exciting players in the league? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I think we need a "Chelsea in Decline" thread to go with the Man U one. Could they lose three times in a week? (Well, 8 days). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I think Rafa will hold out for the Liverpool job yet. As others have alluded to he isn't a manager to work short term. Also he's got a bit more class about him than to work at somewhere like Chelsea tbh. No offence. rafa benitez will never manage liverpool again. and he was in for the chelsea job when they appointed di matteo but he wouldn't do it on a temp basis. he needs to get back to work, he's going stale. If Chelsea can do that, i believe Rafa won't hesitate for a second, classy club or not. As Stevie says, Rafa needs to put himself in the shop window. Chelsea would be a very high profile window, working with some good talent, and if it's short term, with an easy escape and one that wouldn't totally ruin his career or reputation, if things didn't go well. Can always blame the person that came before you and say you didn't have enough time to work your magic. he was definitely in for it and speaking to them when AVB left and before they appointed di matteo. but he refused to do it for six months, was a contract or nothing. so this stuff about him having too much class for them is nonsense, he's a football manager and needs to get managing football again. much as it would piss me off to see him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithsimmonds Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Another one bites the dust. Will it be Harry next,i hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRed Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Joke of a club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithsimmonds Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Joke of a club i do value your opion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRed Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Benitez it is then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Have to say i'm stunned. Never imagined it would happen as quick as this. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRed Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Joke of a club i do value your opion The fact is you are..... and Roman does not give a toss about what you rentboys think either ...it is plain to see today that Chelski is his personal little big boys toy! By the way what did RDM do wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Have to say i'm stunned. Never imagined it would happen as quick as this. Unbelievable. it's amazing how little shit abramovich gets really, he's at least as bad as the spanish and italian chairman that the english press used to laugh at. think he's poisonous to be honest, just pisses all over english football with impunity and never once gets his coat pulled about it. whatever your thoughts on di matteo as a manager, six months ago he won the european cup and fa cup for them. apparently that counts for nothing though. madness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithsimmonds Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Joke of a club i do value your opion The fact is you are..... and Roman does not give a toss about what you rentboys think either ...it is plain to see today that Chelski is his personal little big boys toy! By the way what did RDM do wrong Rentboys! You post that and you wan,t a sensible answer as to what rdm did wrong.Have another chang and try and stay out of the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRed Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Well Keith sorry if i offended you but that is why you are known as rentboys,Roman is the sugar daddy and he takes all your money and doesn't care what any of you think. Which is quite correct as we have seen today. Joke of a club. Ohh i don't need a sensible answer about RDM(there isn't one) because he was appointed in March won the Champions League and FA Cup then 3 months into the season he is sacked...... I think if you are trying to defend Abramovich and his record then YOU need to be careful on the chang matey. Edited November 21, 2012 by MrRed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Well Keith sorry if i offended you but that is why you are known as rentboys,Roman is the sugar daddy and he takes all your money and doesn't care what any of you think. Which is quite correct as we have seen today. Joke of a club. He spends a lot of his own money funding Chelski. He's after a British passport so he can be immune to any later Russian lawsuits demanding back the money him and Putin stole. I hope they never give him one. Poor Chelski, they go through managers like Italy used to go through Prime Ministers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithsimmonds Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Well Keith sorry if i offended you but that is why you are known as rentboys,Roman is the sugar daddy and he takes all your money and doesn't care what any of you think. Which is quite correct as we have seen today. Joke of a club. Ohh i don't need a sensible answer about RDM(there isn't one) because he was appointed in March won the Champions League and FA Cup then 3 months into the season he is sacked...... I think if you are trying to defend Abramovich and his record then YOU need to be careful on the chang matey. Tell me smart arse why does Abramhovich,s record need defending 11 yes Eleven major trophys since he took control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRed Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 So with that Keith you are happy now i take it that you are "Champions of Europe"or were and that Roman sacks managers like they are going out of fashion to the benefit of your great Russian empire in west London. If you think that Abromovich's style of running a footbal club is good then carry on ...no wonder everyone detests everything about your poxy club is it? You are not a football supporter you are a new age JCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRed Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Just been speaking to a Chelsea fan mate and he has told me that the whisper is Avram Grant is coming in again,does that make you happy Keith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithsimmonds Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Just been speaking to a Chelsea fan mate and he has told me that the whisper is Avram Grant is coming in again,does that make you happy Keith? Was he drinking the same stuff that your drinking? Edited November 21, 2012 by keithsimmonds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Tell me smart arse why does Abramhovich,s record need defending 11 yes Eleven major trophys since he took control. and a number of decent men treated like shit as managers. 84m GBP in managerial payoffs in that time. what a guy. what a chairman to be proud of. at least ken bates was able to admit that he was a shameless arsehol_e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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