Blue Muton Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 5 hours ago, owl sees all said: I think the Chelsea supporters should be quite up-beat. The same players that walked the EPL are still there. The Burnley match will be the best thing for Chelsea this year. It was a wake-up-call and half. I reckon that at the end of the season it will be between Chelsea and Man City. There were plenty of ordinary players up for grabs; Barclay, Ox. Chelsea did well just to stay clear. Thanks, refreshing to hear from an opposing supporter, especially from the North! Yes, I agree that we should be feeling positive, as KS says, onwards and upwards, hopefully we'll be there or thereabouts come May, I think this could be a very interesting season. I can say ourselves along with the two Manchester teams in the top four, wouldn't like to pick the fourth but I can't see it it being your neighbours. Is it possible for another team to burst Leicester-like into the CL spots? What will your lot do, push on as your youngish squad have another season under their belts or fall back because others have strengthened more? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post owl sees all Posted September 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Blue Muton said: Thanks, refreshing to hear from an opposing supporter, especially from the North! Well north east Thailand!! To be honest I love talking footy. 1 hour ago, Blue Muton said: Yes, I agree that we should be feeling positive, as KS says, onwards and upwards, hopefully we'll be there or thereabouts come May, I think this could be a very interesting season. I can say ourselves along with the two Manchester teams in the top four, wouldn't like to pick the fourth but I can't see it it being your neighbours. Is it possible for another team to burst Leicester-like into the CL spots? I agree; an interesting season indeed. Man U have done the bizzo so far but I don't see them there at the death. Superspurs have had it for this season; 72 points tops. But they might finish with the best away stats in EPL. Another team bursting through; I thought Everton might, but they have looked ordinary so far. Dare I say it Huddersfield and WBA. But not top 4, just to shake up the big boys with some unexected results (coupon busters). Early days yet and too soon to write off Arsenal. I think confidence is their biggest problem. Liverpool look exciting going forward and I think their matches will be some of the season's best. Three real speedsters in Salah, Origi and Mane. I fancy 'pool to be top scorers. Andrew Robertson was the buy of the season. Man Cty, I reckon, have the best youngsters but will they give them a run out!? Personally I'd put Diaz on the bench early; like this weekend. Edited September 3, 2017 by owl sees all 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 8 hours ago, owl sees all said: I think the Chelsea supporters should be quite up-beat. The same players that walked the EPL are still there. no cobber . Matic / The Governor,, and J.T have departed, the latter would have been a huge input in the dressing sheds and training ground it appears C/SEA have covered Matic,s and J.T loss, but The Governor???, only time will tell if Morata gets us the 20 + goals which is needed to win a sucessive EPL title, just my gut feeling he looks a bit light on, but E/S is in Mou.s style of number nines, big strong and fast and can score goals when it counts, such as Drogba and The Governor who could worry the Sh#t out of any world class defence,no matter how its done just for arguments sake ,Say if Morata is not available or does,nt aim up ,we have Bat Kitkat as our cover , well fluff me enuff said !!!, and E/S just prays that Conte, keeps his thoughts in house,and get on with job which he is paid hansomely,OR otherwise Roman will pull that trigger, you can bet your life savings on that,and E/S is with him, there is only one boss at C/sea thats him, presently Arsenal misfortunes are down to Wenger running the show on his tod for too long, while Roman is The Boss at C/sea that will never occur a very nice evening to all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 35 minutes ago, evenstevens said: no cobber . Matic / The Governor,, and J.T have departed, the latter would have been a huge input in the dressing sheds and training ground it appears C/SEA have covered Matic,s and J.T loss, but The Governor???, only time will tell if Morata gets us the 20 + goals which is needed to win a sucessive EPL title, just my gut feeling he looks a bit light on, but E/S is in Mou.s style of number nines, big strong and fast and can score goals when it counts, such as Drogba and The Governor who could worry the Sh#t out of any world class defence,no matter how its done just for arguments sake ,Say if Morata is not available or does,nt aim up ,we have Bat Kitkat as our cover , well fluff me enuff said !!!, and E/S just prays that Conte, keeps his thoughts in house,and get on with job which he is paid hansomely,OR otherwise Roman will pull that trigger, you can bet your life savings on that,and E/S is with him, there is only one boss at C/sea thats him, presently Arsenal misfortunes are down to Wenger running the show on his tod for too long, while Roman is The Boss at C/sea that will never occur a very nice evening to all Interesting post this. You are a Blue but the confidence is not as strong as it should be in my view. A few more wins would sort that. Chelsea breezed the EPL last year and there is no reason to think they will not be there again. They had their wake-up-call and now i see them returning to the stubborn Chelsea of last year. I am bemused about a couple of ins and outs. Morata seems a good man to lead the line. Matic's departure was strange, I thought he was good last year and could only get better. My biggest concern is Salah moving on. If he could have been persuaded to keep wide and not cut in until after he had the better of the last defender I feel that Morata would be good for 26EPL goals minimum. From what I have seen so far Morata is very unselfish and that is what is needed if you don't have flying wingers. In saying that about Salah; as well as he will do at pool he would be better just getting in those crosses for a big CF. Sturrage!!! not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 E/S at first I had no clue but now I've learnt to speak Wogga you're making more sense. Your top striker has been named in the squad and I see a reconciliation on the cards by the end of the month. You rightly named him one of your important players and he is. Still don't understand the Lukaku issue....losing him was just stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Just now, RonniePickering22 said: E/S at first I had no clue but now I've learnt to speak Wogga you're making more sense. Your top striker has been named in the squad and I see a reconciliation on the cards by the end of the month. You rightly named him one of your important players and he is. Still don't understand the Lukaku issue....losing him was just stupid. Nah that's a massive undermining of Conte and that means q thing down chavs bridge. The boss is on the block, let's see how he responds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 8 hours ago, owl sees all said: Interesting post this. You are a Blue but the confidence is not as strong as it should be in my view. A few more wins would sort that. Chelsea breezed the EPL last year and there is no reason to think they will not be there again. lets face facts,in any order 1/ its been a long time between drinks since a club sucessively defended their title,around a decade ago (M/U) 2/Morata has to score 20+ to fill The Governor,s boots!!!!, first season in the EPL, tall order, but maybe possible,but just now E/S has his doubts 3/ have to contend with C/L schedule 4/T/F window was very skinny ,when taking point#3 into consideration,needed at least another striker thats for sure 5/ Conte has to call it a day ,p#ssing on Roman and His Board at press conferences etc etc (whether right or wrong)he would be very wise ,to keep it in house The Costa Text Saga proved that ,and address his responsibiltys to what he is getting paid for Coaching/Managering a very good squad at his disposal,and most football fans would not disagree, that Conte is arguably the best around,just needs to keep that Italian blood cooler, when in difficult times, needs a E,S in his corner 6/ the M/U clubs are equal favourites at 9/4 ,next Chelsea 11/2....to win the 2017/2018 Epl title, just about the right odds,particular C.sea,s its a sad Steely Dan morning to all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 9 hours ago, RonniePickering22 said: Your top striker has been named in the squad and I see a reconciliation on the cards by the end of the month. You rightly named him one of your important players and he is. the very reason for The Governors place in our squad,was to carry out our contractual obligations to him,and not be left open to being sued for not doing so, as much as i luv him, he is, and i have posted before , a walking time bomb, theres no way back to playing for C/sea again, full stop E/S is going to miss him warts and all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgit Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 2 hours ago, evenstevens said: lets face facts,in any order 1/ its been a long time between drinks since a club sucessively defended their title,around a decade ago (M/U) 2/Morata has to score 20+ to fill The Governor,s boots!!!!, first season in the EPL, tall order, but maybe possible,but just now E/S has his doubts 3/ have to contend with C/L schedule 4/T/F window was very skinny ,when taking point#3 into consideration,needed at least another striker thats for sure 5/ Conte has to call it a day ,p#ssing on Roman and His Board at press conferences etc etc (whether right or wrong)he would be very wise ,to keep it in house The Costa Text Saga proved that ,and address his responsibiltys to what he is getting paid for Coaching/Managering a very good squad at his disposal,and most football fans would not disagree, that Conte is arguably the best around,just needs to keep that Italian blood cooler, when in difficult times, needs a E,S in his corner 6/ the M/U clubs are equal favourites at 9/4 ,next Chelsea 11/2....to win the 2017/2018 Epl title, just about the right odds,particular C.sea,s its a sad Steely Dan morning to all What you read on the back pages nowadays, is largely b****cks, mostly baseless opinion from some hack who's under pressure to fill column spaces. You read all these reports of Conte at odds with the board and some German paper reporter stirring the s**t, because he's got nothing better to do. But have you ever seen Conte sound off in public E/S? I haven't, He's always come across as composed and calm, except the time when he was told Costa felt like "a criminal" of course. Regarding the Lukaku episode, again you can take what you will from the newspapers. What you will not get is the club saying who their potential targets are. I've never seen that on Chelsea's or any other club's website. You just have to wait and see what happens. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Some fans get annoyed because they read that the club is dragging it's heels over a certain signing, and nothing happens until the last minutes of the window. It's nothing to do with inaction. The prospective signing has to take many things into consideration before he puts pen to paper. What are they offering? Are there tangible chances of him winning trophies at this club? Are his prospective teammates an upgrade on where he was before? Are there better options elsewhere? Will his family settle into their new surroundings? Is it better waiting until the next window? All this takes time and a bit of diplomacy from the club. Regarding this transfer window, I see no difference from this and the summer one in 2016. We were linked with this and that player, who's the best thing since sliced bread and who do we wind up with? Batshuiyi, Kante both signed quite early on and then Luiz and Alonso on the last day. Hardly earth shattering additions on the face of it, but they didn't turn out too bad did they? And let's not forget that we got rid of or loaned out loads of kids and deadwood in that window as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, oldgit said: What you read on the back pages nowadays, is largely b****cks, mostly baseless opinion from some hack who's under pressure to fill column spaces. You read all these reports of Conte at odds with the board and some German paper reporter stirring the s**t, because he's got nothing better to do. But have you ever seen Conte sound off in public E/S? I haven't, He's always come across as composed and calm, except the time when he was told Costa felt like "a criminal" of course. Regarding the Lukaku episode, again you can take what you will from the newspapers. What you will not get is the club saying who their potential targets are. I've never seen that on Chelsea's or any other club's website. You just have to wait and see what happens. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Some fans get annoyed because they read that the club is dragging it's heels over a certain signing, and nothing happens until the last minutes of the window. It's nothing to do with inaction. The prospective signing has to take many things into consideration before he puts pen to paper. What are they offering? Are there tangible chances of him winning trophies at this club? Are his prospective teammates an upgrade on where he was before? Are there better options elsewhere? Will his family settle into their new surroundings? Is it better waiting until the next window? All this takes time and a bit of diplomacy from the club. Regarding this transfer window, I see no difference from this and the summer one in 2016. We were linked with this and that player, who's the best thing since sliced bread and who do we wind up with? Batshuiyi, Kante both signed quite early on and then Luiz and Alonso on the last day. Hardly earth shattering additions on the face of it, but they didn't turn out too bad did they? And let's not forget that we got rid of or loaned out loads of kids and deadwood in that window as well. Well put. An additional point about Lukaku is that Everton reportedly demanded Batshuayi (bought for £32m, now probably worth £40m+, Traore (since sold for £8.8m) and £46m in cash. That's close to £100m, but they sold to Manchester United for just £75m. As for Costa returning at the expense of Conte, I think you're in a very small minority in finding that acceptable, never mind desirable E/S, although of course you're perfectly entitled to your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 17 hours ago, owl sees all said: Well north east Thailand!! My "Northern" tag was a somewhat obscure reference to a certain homesick Scot, who pleaded to leave Chelsea to move closer to home (North), then signed for your lot. Answers to the name of "Judas". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 4 hours ago, oldgit said: What you read on the back pages nowadays, is largely b****cks, mostly baseless opinion from some hack who's under pressure to fill column spaces. You read all these reports of Conte at odds with the board and some German paper reporter stirring the s**t, because he's got nothing better to do. But have you ever seen Conte sound off in public E/S? I haven't, He's always come across as composed and calm, except the time when he was told Costa felt like "a criminal" of course. Regarding the Lukaku episode, again you can take what you will from the newspapers. What you will not get is the club saying who their potential targets are. I've never seen that on Chelsea's or any other club's website. You just have to wait and see what happens. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Some fans get annoyed because they read that the club is dragging it's heels over a certain signing, and nothing happens until the last minutes of the window. It's nothing to do with inaction. The prospective signing has to take many things into consideration before he puts pen to paper. What are they offering? Are there tangible chances of him winning trophies at this club? Are his prospective teammates an upgrade on where he was before? Are there better options elsewhere? Will his family settle into their new surroundings? Is it better waiting until the next window? All this takes time and a bit of diplomacy from the club. Regarding this transfer window, I see no difference from this and the summer one in 2016. We were linked with this and that player, who's the best thing since sliced bread and who do we wind up with? Batshuiyi, Kante both signed quite early on and then Luiz and Alonso on the last day. Hardly earth shattering additions on the face of it, but they didn't turn out too bad did they? And let's not forget that we got rid of or loaned out loads of kids and deadwood in that window as well. thks for that , sadly you are in the land of the fairysand twisted my post to peices,to suit your ideals ,thats your view ,so be it cobber my main points number 5/ and 6/ will come home to roost,if any serious injuries,or suspensions should occur, say a little little prayer that this will not happen until the summer t/f window comes into play,and further signings can be made to make up for a very skinny T/F window that has just been concluded,,,a very nice late arvo to all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Blue Muton said: Well put. An additional point about Lukaku is that Everton reportedly demanded Batshuayi (bought for £32m, now probably worth £40m+, are you serious that Bat Kitkat is worth 40 mil on todays T/F market,how did you arrive at such a figure, may E/S ask??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, evenstevens said: thks for that , sadly you are in the land of the fairysand twisted my post to peices,to suit your ideals ,thats your view ,so be it cobber my main points number 5/ and 6/ will come home to roost,if any serious injuries,or suspensions should occur, say a little little prayer that this will not happen until the summer t/f window comes into play,and further signings can be made to make up for a very skinny T/F window that has just been concluded,,,a very nice late arvo to all sorry about this cannot edit my error,line 2 should read numbers3/ and 4 ..many thks E/S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, evenstevens said: are you serious that Bat Kitkat is worth 40 mil on todays T/F market,how did you arrive at such a figure, may E/S ask??? Yes I am. The £40m is just my reasoning based upon his age, ability, contract length and current market rates for strikers. This doesn't come cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgit Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, evenstevens said: thks for that , sadly you are in the land of the fairysand twisted my post to peices,to suit your ideals ,thats your view ,so be it cobber my main points number 5/ and 6/ will come home to roost,if any serious injuries,or suspensions should occur, say a little little prayer that this will not happen until the summer t/f window comes into play,and further signings can be made to make up for a very skinny T/F window that has just been concluded,,,a very nice late arvo to all How have I twisted your post? Point 1) Yes. 2) I think so too. 3) Yes. 4) I've explained that and I don't remember Conte publically slamming the board in 2016. 5) At press conferences, I've never seen Conte say he's dissatisfied with the clubs dealing. He's not an idiot and knows the hoops you have to crawl through and hurdles you have to jump before a player arrives. On the contrary, he's said that the board are doing their best and he'll work with whoever he's got. I agree he's one of the best around. 6) The bookmakers are ducking under on the two Manchester clubs and stretching us purely for the reasons you've already mentioned. For all the money they've spent, I think that City still have issues in defence. United look a more complete unit and Mourinho has finally landed the job he's always craved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 30 minutes ago, Blue Muton said: Yes I am. The £40m is just my reasoning based upon his age, ability, contract length and current market rates for strikers. This doesn't come cheap! so 40 mil is your call,if Conte remains in charge he will be out on his ear Pronto,possibly next T/F window unless he shows he can hack the EPL etc etc,my price would be 15 to 20 mil max under present conditions,and be darn lucky to get that,unless he gets a swag of goals when he gets his chance, see how it pans out 8 minutes ago, oldgit said: How have I twisted your post? Point 1) Yes. 2) I think so too. 3) Yes. 4) I've explained that and I don't remember Conte publically slamming the board in 2016. 5) At press conferences, I've never seen Conte say he's dissatisfied with the clubs dealing. He's not an idiot and knows the hoops you have to crawl through and hurdles you have to jump before a player arrives. On the contrary, he's said that the board are doing their best and he'll work with whoever he's got. I agree he's one of the best around. 6) The bookmakers are ducking under on the two Manchester clubs and stretching us purely for the reasons you've already mentioned. For all the money they've spent, I think that City still have issues in defence. United look a more complete unit and Mourinho has finally landed the job he's always craved. O/G why did he wear a track suit ,instead of his normal garb ,a very nice suit???why did he not start Morata on opening day,a 70 mil striker??? has the penny dropped???did a solo job on the Costa text sacking,costing Roman many millions other one liners which slam the board etc etc,yes he puckered up to the board etc etcwhen he was within a few hours of being sacked, he has a history in Italy for doing the same,instead of taking it up his issues with the Board in house(so to speak)he uses one liners etc with the press inboth countrys,Roman and Company are a very closely knit group,who despise the press, particular Roman for very good reasons,he is going against Romans wishes,if he continueson that path again,he will be sacked immediately,no ssecond chances with Roman,he was lucky to dodge the bullett this time around, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, evenstevens said: so 40 mil is your call,if Conte remains in charge he will be out on his ear Pronto,possibly next T/F window unless he shows he can hack the EPL etc etc,my price would be 15 to 20 mil max under present conditions,and be darn lucky to get that,unless he gets a swag of goals when he gets his chance, see how it pans out Wow, 15 to 20m, since joining us he's got a PL title and the goal that clinched it to add to his CV, along with four goals in ten full international appearances for Belgium, who FIFA currently rank number nine in the world, ahead of France, Spain, Italy and England. Championship club Middlesbrough just paid £15m to Forest, he is aged 24, has no top flight experience, being loaned to Wealdstone, Braintree Town and Southend United, having scored 0 goals in his four appearances for Watford before being sold to Peterborough. He is yet to make a single appearance for his native DR Congo. In comparison, Bats scored 44 goals it Belgiums top flight before moving to Marseille, where he notched another 33. With that in mind, whilst neither of us can verify our valuations, I'll stick to believing mine being the more realistic, thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 21 minutes ago, Blue Muton said: Wow, 15 to 20m, since joining us he's got a PL title and the goal that clinched it to add to his CV, With that in mind, whilst neither of us can verify our valuations, I'll stick to believing mine being the more realistic, thanks. stick to your 40 mil,thats fine with me,but its a B/S price tag,.for a bench warmer, EPL Title or not, and C/sea will off load him in the very near future ,hence Llorente t/f bid, cobber he is not up to C/sea,s required standard,for a EPL striker,and any club would have to be in the Looney Bin to pay 40 mil ,even in these crazy price days for a bench warmer, as i already said see how it pans out,Gosh 40 MIL the world has gone crazy,and so have you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgit Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 18 hours ago, evenstevens said: so 40 mil is your call,if Conte remains in charge he will be out on his ear Pronto,possibly next T/F window unless he shows he can hack the EPL etc etc,my price would be 15 to 20 mil max under present conditions,and be darn lucky to get that,unless he gets a swag of goals when he gets his chance, see how it pans out O/G why did he wear a track suit ,instead of his normal garb ,a very nice suit???why did he not start Morata on opening day,a 70 mil striker??? has the penny dropped???did a solo job on the Costa text sacking,costing Roman many millions other one liners which slam the board etc etc,yes he puckered up to the board etc etcwhen he was within a few hours of being sacked, he has a history in Italy for doing the same,instead of taking it up his issues with the Board in house(so to speak)he uses one liners etc with the press inboth countrys,Roman and Company are a very closely knit group,who despise the press, particular Roman for very good reasons,he is going against Romans wishes,if he continueson that path again,he will be sacked immediately,no ssecond chances with Roman,he was lucky to dodge the bullett this time around, So by wearing a track suit instead of a suit, you reckon he was making a 'statement'? Do me a favour! He wore it once and was back to the suit the next game, because the players told him it was a 'bock'. Next thing, you'll be telling me what the hidden meaning was behind that crap song McArthur f****ng Park. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 20 hours ago, oldgit said: How have I twisted your post? Point 1) Yes. 2) I think so too. 3) Yes. 4) I've explained that and I don't remember Conte publically slamming the board in 2016. 5) At press conferences, I've never seen Conte say he's dissatisfied with the clubs dealing. He's not an idiot and knows the hoops you have to crawl through and hurdles you have to jump before a player arrives. On the contrary, he's said that the board are doing their best and he'll work with whoever he's got. I agree he's one of the best around. 6) The bookmakers are ducking under on the two Manchester clubs and stretching us purely for the reasons you've already mentioned. For all the money they've spent, I think that City still have issues in defence. United look a more complete unit and Mourinho has finally landed the job he's always craved. Yes, and it annoys me to no end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Well we've got a busy, challenging bunch of matches coming up this month, with Leicester and Stoke away, Gooners and Man City at home interspersed with CL matches against Qarabag and Atletico and a league cup tie with Forest - all in just 21 days! Looking to the Leicester game I've been playing the old team selection game in my head and I must say it's harder to fit players in than it's been for a while, but here goes anyway. First the easy bit, Courtois is a no brainer. With so many players away on international duty I think most of us would rule out debuts for Zappacosta and even Drinkwater. I can't see beyond the usual suspects of Moses and Alonso in the wing back positions. In the centre of defence things start to get much more complicated, I like the look of Rudiger, Christensen needs playing time and IMO his development should be a priority and would not be at the expense of winning pots. Dave and Luiz are both solid. Fortunately(!) captain Cahill is still banned, so for me it's a toss up between Rudiger and Christensen to play with Dave and Luiz. Leicester away is not easy, perhaps the CL game at home would be less challenging so although Rudiger played yesterday while Christensen sat on the bench I'll go for Rudiger at the weekend with Christensen starting in the CL. Kante has to be the first name on the sheet in midfield, I'll have Fabregas alongside him although that's a very tough call between him and Bakayoko. My front three would be Morata, Willian and Pedro, saving Hazard for the second half. Who'd want Conte's job? Well at £10m a year I cold suffer it for a few months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 23 minutes ago, Blue Muton said: Well we've got a busy, challenging bunch of matches coming up this month, with Leicester and Stoke away, Gooners and Man City at home interspersed with CL matches against Qarabag and Atletico and a league cup tie with Forest - all in just 21 days! Looking to the Leicester game I've been playing the old team selection game in my head and I must say it's harder to fit players in than it's been for a while, but here goes anyway. First the easy bit, Courtois is a no brainer. With so many players away on international duty I think most of us would rule out debuts for Zappacosta and even Drinkwater. I can't see beyond the usual suspects of Moses and Alonso in the wing back positions. In the centre of defence things start to get much more complicated, I like the look of Rudiger, Christensen needs playing time and IMO his development should be a priority and would not be at the expense of winning pots. Dave and Luiz are both solid. Fortunately(!) captain Cahill is still banned, so for me it's a toss up between Rudiger and Christensen to play with Dave and Luiz. Leicester away is not easy, perhaps the CL game at home would be less challenging so although Rudiger played yesterday while Christensen sat on the bench I'll go for Rudiger at the weekend with Christensen starting in the CL. Kante has to be the first name on the sheet in midfield, I'll have Fabregas alongside him although that's a very tough call between him and Bakayoko. My front three would be Morata, Willian and Pedro, saving Hazard for the second half. Who'd want Conte's job? Well at £10m a year I cold suffer it for a few months! Good assessment in my view! I would only bring Hazard on if the circustances demanded and not the next game anyway. Have to see how the results go. This is not the game to start DD. I think he will stiffen up the team in front of Kante later this year. He is not a big lad but no pushover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgit Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Blue Muton said: Well we've got a busy, challenging bunch of matches coming up this month, with Leicester and Stoke away, Gooners and Man City at home interspersed with CL matches against Qarabag and Atletico and a league cup tie with Forest - all in just 21 days! Looking to the Leicester game I've been playing the old team selection game in my head and I must say it's harder to fit players in than it's been for a while, but here goes anyway. First the easy bit, Courtois is a no brainer. With so many players away on international duty I think most of us would rule out debuts for Zappacosta and even Drinkwater. I can't see beyond the usual suspects of Moses and Alonso in the wing back positions. In the centre of defence things start to get much more complicated, I like the look of Rudiger, Christensen needs playing time and IMO his development should be a priority and would not be at the expense of winning pots. Dave and Luiz are both solid. Fortunately(!) captain Cahill is still banned, so for me it's a toss up between Rudiger and Christensen to play with Dave and Luiz. Leicester away is not easy, perhaps the CL game at home would be less challenging so although Rudiger played yesterday while Christensen sat on the bench I'll go for Rudiger at the weekend with Christensen starting in the CL. Kante has to be the first name on the sheet in midfield, I'll have Fabregas alongside him although that's a very tough call between him and Bakayoko. My front three would be Morata, Willian and Pedro, saving Hazard for the second half. Who'd want Conte's job? Well at £10m a year I cold suffer it for a few months! I did the very same thing yesterday on the Sky Sports 'Pick your Chelsea X1'. I was pissing around for half an hour and still couldn't make up my mind! No Fabregas for me though BM. The Leicester midfield will be all over him like flies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, oldgit said: I did the very same thing yesterday on the Sky Sports 'Pick your Chelsea X1'. I was pissing around for half an hour and still couldn't make up my mind! No Fabregas for me though BM. The Leicester midfield will be all over him like flies. Well that's probably the hardest decision - and will be even harder once Drinkwater is up to speed. Conte did say he'd give Fabregas more games this season. Despite all the recent hype over transfers, we seem to have a squad that gives him some tough decisions. I guess you'd put Bakayoko in there instead? I'd still be happy with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 3 hours ago, oldgit said: So by wearing a track suit instead of a suit, you reckon he was making a 'statement'? Do me a favour! He wore it once and was back to the suit the next game, because the players told him it was a 'bock'. Next thing, you'll be telling me what the hidden meaning was behind that crap song McArthur f****ng Park. O/G canter back to your cave and turn the lights on cobber, Conte wore his track suit for the first time at the Community Sheild match against Arsenal (first shot fired) then again a week later on opening day against Burnley,if you got some commonsense!!! it was his way of saying to Roman and Company his famous quote in Italy, how can one spend one hundred quid in a restauant with 10 quid in my pocket,, get in now O/G ???again its in his best interests to take up his differences through the right channells (in house) then through the Tabs, Sure he would be better supported by Roman and the Board at the end of the daysee how he handles himself in the coming weeks,, BTW the way great song ,McCarthur Park, E/S had many drinks with its singer richard Harris, Devonshire Pub Kensington, London , could,nt he drink and tell tales, he was a super bloke, and a great Actor??? now off to the Socceroo,s/Thailand match on the idiot box all due to Walai,s great info, we will be hard press to beat them ,,our form is very poor ,or should i say our players cannot aim up,but see how we go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgit Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Blue Muton said: Well that's probably the hardest decision - and will be even harder once Drinkwater is up to speed. Conte did say he'd give Fabregas more games this season. Despite all the recent hype over transfers, we seem to have a squad that gives him some tough decisions. I guess you'd put Bakayoko in there instead? I'd still be happy with that. I would mate. I've got a feeling this bloke will be immense for us. I'm also for Hazard to start as he's played a major part in Belgium's qualifying games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgit Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 19 minutes ago, evenstevens said: O/G canter back to your cave and turn the lights on cobber, Conte wore his track suit for the first time at the Community Sheild match against Arsenal (first shot fired) then again a week later on opening day against Burnley,if you got some commonsense!!! it was his way of saying to Roman and Company his famous quote in Italy, how can one spend one hundred quid in a restauant with 10 quid in my pocket,, get in now O/G ???again its in his best interests to take up his differences through the right channells (in house) then through the Tabs, Sure he would be better supported by Roman and the Board at the end of the daysee how he handles himself in the coming weeks,, BTW the way great song ,McCarthur Park, E/S had many drinks with its singer richard Harris, Devonshire Pub Kensington, London , could,nt he drink and tell tales, he was a super bloke, and a great Actor??? now off to the Socceroo,s/Thailand match on the idiot box all due to Walai,s great info, we will be hard press to beat them ,,our form is very poor ,or should i say our players cannot aim up,but see how we go Your not wrong with Richard Harris. Great actor. As for the rest of it, stop fretting and enjoy the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 hour ago, evenstevens said: E/S had many drinks with its singer Richard Harris, Devonshire Pub Kensington, London , could,nt he drink and tell tales, he was a super bloke, and a great Actor??? Did he teach you how to handle a woman - or did you teach him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 37 minutes ago, Blue Muton said: Did he teach you how to handle a woman - or did you teach him? tell u something B/M his younger brother,who had a model agency up in the High Street,Kenso, ..Damien was his name from mememory, had a load of them ,rolled up in his mercedes sports convertible with them (canary yellow) to the Devonshire Pub, and we used to what a lucky so and so, Richard was mostly on his tod ,but at times he had a dolly with him,he was close freinds with the Gov of the Devonshire,naturally Irish, E/S worked for London Tara Hotel then was owned by Aer Lingus ,and the G/M was close mates with Richard also hence my leg in, closing time was 11pm but the Gov had a small pad in the cellar, drink til u drop was the call,no closing time, Richard would tell irish jokes,and he was so good telling them ,and was a great actor so of course that helped, now back to footy, O/G no fretting at all ,just correcting your calls, by the end of OCT will tell the story, E/S is confident,only the Strikers have got me worried,The Governor is a huge loss , just hope Morata and company can step into his boots,...Soccer roo.s 2...thailand 1 in a thriller, not for the purist fans but entertaing match as one can see..a nice evening to all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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